Are you cool with forks making Spotify playlists out of every rolling thread without permission?

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Feel like Lex's big victory wrt influencing ILM's taste was starting that Wut thread which consequently propelled the track to the top of the EOY poll. Now imagine he'd buried it several months deep in 'Rolling dance partisans 2010' or whatever. Rolling threads can be useful but they're no substitute for genuinely enthused threads on individual songs.

The best rolling threads tend to be ones that stem from discussions on one particular tune - like the entire UK funky thread growing out of one person ripping for Do You Mind.

Matt DC, Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:45 (eight years ago) link

is this a bad time to reveal that I am David Geffen?

I'm currently in an online essential oil class! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:49 (eight years ago) link

I thought you were Damo Suzuki

Οὖτις, Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:50 (eight years ago) link

Can't he be both? It's the 21st Century ffs.

If This Town Is Just An Asshole Then Let Me Take A Bite (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:52 (eight years ago) link

As a total side comment/pro tip, the best approach to functionality in Youtube-heavy threads is to turn off "display images" in your preferences while you're browsing that particular thread

Chikan wa akan de. Zettai akan de. (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:52 (eight years ago) link

I feel like copy/pasting this entire thread to the LOLZ thread.

pitchforkian at best (cryptosicko), Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:53 (eight years ago) link

lol @ "numerously deprivileged individual"

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:33 (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Certainly the worst genuinely-held opinion posited itt

broderik f (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:54 (eight years ago) link

cryptosicko i've had just about enough of your taking our hard-worked-upon commentary on this topic and listing it gutlessly for some lolz thread. i jsut don't get people who get their lolz from that thread, they lose the context and just have joekz spoonfed to them
xp

Worth Taking from Little Kid (Will M.), Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:55 (eight years ago) link

we're prob not deprivileged enough yet to appreciate it xp

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 4 February 2016 17:55 (eight years ago) link

Just a bit of fun, so let's be cool

ty for this

its subtle brume (DJP), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link

omg ahahahhahaahahahahahahahaha

its subtle brume (DJP), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:06 (eight years ago) link

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jaggered little poll (wins), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:09 (eight years ago) link

truly the impact of Wut has been felt through the years for us all.

i <3 lex and we overlap on taste as much or more than with most people (same for mattress, tbrr) but dude, your argument is based on an elitist "i understand how listening to music should be done" approach. None of us are doing it "wrong". We're all just listening. We all listen differently. Polarized dichotomies of Aristotelian TRUTH when it comes to means of engagement (and, god help us, perceived quality of art itself) are anathema to me and just about the worst thing about ILM.

Demanding that neophytes wade into notoriously partisan threads and voice their opinions is sometimes a good experience for all concerned. Other times, folks get browbeaten viciously. IIRC, deej went after you in the afrobeats thread when you (reasonably imo) said that you wanted to engage music in the genre mostly out of context as you didn't have the wherewithal to have an authentic on the ground relationship to it. In his opinion, you were doing it wrong. You thought you were doing it your way. We're all just doing it our way.

In short, we are not the most welcoming environment for lurkers! Folks notoriously love to start fights about dumb shit on ILM for the lulz (I had an example I was gonna use here but i forgot what it was...). Demanding that anyone who enjoys the music must engage here ignores the possibility that maybe the social stress of such interaction may not be healthy, maybe they're sharing the music with their IRL friends and significant others (I do!) or using the newly discovered music to help support the artists in other real world arenas (we both do!). And not to call out a guy's real name on an ilx beef thread when shit gets heated but aren't you a regularly published music critic? Your method of enjoying and engaging music is probably as far removed from that of a truly casual listener as you can get... and there's a lot more of those out there than there are music critics. Casual listeners deserve respect too!

And as per your note on my own listening methods: what is the Singles Jukebox, to take a for instance we've both written for, but "listening to music as data dump," albeit one that is curated by people you respect? What is working on assignment but splicing your own interests and your editor's data dump into monetizable considerations?

ulysses, Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:10 (eight years ago) link

I'm actually printing this whole thread out and having it screenprinted on a t-shirt like those crazy millenials are doing with Bee Movie

http://nymag.com/following/2016/02/heres-the-whole-script-of-bee-movie-on-a-shirt.html

I'm currently in an online essential oil class! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link

I'm actually printing this whole thread out

ah, clusterfucks of yore

mookieproof, Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:28 (eight years ago) link

i miss the days of real ilx scandals like modest mickey trying to trick the entirety of ILM into incriminating themselves for copyright infringement, or luna pretending to be jenna jameson, or that time everyone thought drake and future finished at #3 in the albums poll.

nomar, Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:30 (eight years ago) link

Notable posters have included Momus,[2] Simon Reynolds, Philip Sherburne, Drew Daniel of Matmos and The Soft Pink Truth,[3] John Darnielle of The Mountain Goats,[4] Frank Kogan, Ned Raggett,[5] former The Wire editor Mark Sinker, Jenna Jameson,[6] former Village Voice music editor Chuck Eddy, Peter Chung (creator of Æon Flux), Fluxblog author Matthew Perpetua and Modest Mickey.[citation needed]

ulysses, Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link

re that pitbull article my sympathies cannot help but lie w/ the dad who lost his son to a pitbull and not to these psychotic pro-pitbull types. what do u guys think - could ilx use a good pitbull clusterfuck?

Mordy, Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:34 (eight years ago) link

i think we don't talk often enough about the fact that the guy who made aeon flux has his own board on ilx that he regularly answers anytime anyone posts something there.

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet?boardid=59

ulysses, Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:35 (eight years ago) link

Re: clusterfucks, I'm almost afraid to broach the subject, but did we ever get a ruling on is it okay to wash a hat in front of a baby y/n?

If This Town Is Just An Asshole Then Let Me Take A Bite (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:35 (eight years ago) link

fun thread

flopson, Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:36 (eight years ago) link

The difference between this thread and the 2015 bobbins thread is vast.

― Matt DC, Thursday, February 4, 2016 12:06 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

From bobbins thread 2004:

(And if anyone wants to make a mix of all these and post it here, my thanks in advance.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:49 AM (11 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Anyway, what a crazy thread. I read it while listening to the rolling favorite tracks 2016 spotify list - wow, there's a LOT of good stuff there already! Thanks for all the helpful list Forks! And thanks to the other posters who make lists for the Acclaimed Music polls etc.

niels, Thursday, 4 February 2016 18:58 (eight years ago) link

I would like to hear that playlist but is there like an overarching permission slip I can get signed or do I need to ask permission from each person involved and, if so, are gifts of respect a customary part of the permission-requesting procedure?

If This Town Is Just An Asshole Then Let Me Take A Bite (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link

stick a fork in this thread it's done

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link

so we're not cool with forks doing this, it's decided

Karl Malone, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link

No, he's definitely crossed the uncrossable line this time.

If This Town Is Just An Asshole Then Let Me Take A Bite (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:17 (eight years ago) link

sometimes forks does things that push me out of my comfort zone, like making spotify playlists, but that's part of what makes him so sexy

I'm currently in an online essential oil class! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link

Why does nobody ever talk about the cloves or the tofu?

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:32 (eight years ago) link

fwiw I had fish & chips

jaggered little poll (wins), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:39 (eight years ago) link

cloves and tofu doesn't sound like a great combo but what do i know (nothing)

art, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:47 (eight years ago) link

what a silly thread

Darin, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:54 (eight years ago) link

Notable posters have included Momus,[2] Simon Reynolds, Philip Sherburne, Drew Daniel of Matmos and The Soft Pink Truth,[3] John Darnielle of The Mountain Goats,[4] Frank Kogan, Ned Raggett,[5] former The Wire editor Mark Sinker, Jenna Jameson,[6] former Village Voice music editor Chuck Eddy, Peter Chung (creator of Æon Flux), Fluxblog author Matthew Perpetua and Modest Mickey.[citation needed]
― ulysses

you forgot violin dude called Owen who plays with Arcade Fire and Grimes' boyfriend.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:55 (eight years ago) link

And myself, my claim to fame is I once gave Morgan Freeman a kiss on the cheek.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:56 (eight years ago) link

guest starring

Scout Niblett
Ta-Nehisi Coates
Robert Christgau

nomar, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:57 (eight years ago) link

Love when so-called poptimists trot out their important concerns about people listening to music inauthentically

bamcquern, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:57 (eight years ago) link

Wait, did Jenna Jameson was really an ilxor poster? Where?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link

Matt kinda a dick itt everyone agrees but kudos to his display name *silver lining*

bamcquern, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link

Sorry for the bad english I meant:

Did Jenna Jameson really posted on ilxor? Where?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link

Jenna Jameson - what?!

Darin, Thursday, 4 February 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link

Poor Chris Ott.

moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:00 (eight years ago) link

Also he's the only person in this thread who's been needlessly aggro

Chikan wa akan de. Zettai akan de. (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:00 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, Jenna used to post a lot of candid production shots back in the day when ILX was primarily about the adult entertainment industry.

If This Town Is Just An Asshole Then Let Me Take A Bite (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:01 (eight years ago) link

she posted as Esteban Buttez, iirc

Darin, Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:02 (eight years ago) link

high level p4k people have also posted here iirc

marcos, Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:03 (eight years ago) link

erstwhile ilxor and noted "Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World" aficionado nabisco

nomar, Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:06 (eight years ago) link

The difference between this thread and the 2015 bobbins thread is vast.
― Matt DC, Thursday, February 4, 2016 12:06 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

From bobbins thread 2004:

(And if anyone wants to make a mix of all these and post it here, my thanks in advance.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:49 AM (11 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

for Ned

Bobbins 2004 'No Samples Cleared' Spotify Playlist

ulysses, Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:08 (eight years ago) link

i do think it's a little lame that forks seems to want to turn into the nu-kerr, like one of those annoying "facilitators" at company retreats who goes around from table to table to see how everyone's doing and if there's anything they can do to help

that said he's a good dude and this thread was dumb, though redeemed in part by "numerously-deprivileged individual", never change louis

k3vin k., Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:17 (eight years ago) link

she posted as Esteban Buttez, iirc

― Darin, Thursday, February 4, 2016 2:02 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol think of all the ilxors who, like me, gave up literal minutes trying to think of the funneyest ilxor for this joke and gave up

goole, Thursday, 4 February 2016 20:20 (eight years ago) link


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