David Bowie R.I.P

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Fripp is an odd duck and I noted the tone of that comment as well. But you shouldn't let it obscure his underlying point: Bowie allowed his players to play things that no other star of his magnitude would – and was comfortable bringing avant garde performers to light that might otherwise have toiled in obscurity.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 5 February 2016 23:35 (eight years ago) link

Fripp's sister has had a horrifying influence on his manner of speaking publicly, but he's still an interesting guy. And still the the country lounge jazz guitarist he started as, occasionally amazed at what he's gotten away with over the years.

Three Word Username, Saturday, 6 February 2016 08:58 (eight years ago) link

fripp was hilarious in that doc xD

niels, Saturday, 6 February 2016 14:12 (eight years ago) link

Fripp also often refers to himself as Fripp, which is very funny, too. But yes, he does have a point. Remember, by the late '70s King Crimson had been disbanded for several years, and he was mostly working as this peripatetic session man dipping his toes in punk and new wave: Talking Heads, Peter Gabriel, Blondie, Roches, that Daryl Hall record. But Bowie was a huge superstar, filling arenas, so the idea of letting him cut loose on stuff like "Fashion" is pretty cool, though yeah, also a tad disingenuous on Fripp's part to claim it as particularly outre, given he was all over "Heroes" (the album and song) already.

Speaking of which, I just learned this existed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABEqQKlWLC0
Featuring Fripp playing off-stage.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 6 February 2016 14:45 (eight years ago) link

Fripp also often refers to himself as Fripp, which is very funny, too.

I don't think he's done the "this Fripp" thing in 30 years. Still uses the 3rd person, but usually referring to himself as the Old Goat or RHVL (ruthless heartless venal leader or something like that). It's interesting that he pretty much stopped updating his online diary about the time the current KC revival got going -- I hope he's channeling that writing time into something that sees print someday.

if thou gaz long into the coombs, the coombs will also gaz into thee (WilliamC), Saturday, 6 February 2016 14:53 (eight years ago) link

I think his point tho is that "Fashion" represents a particularly outre performance on a single. Most of his particularly angular work on "Heroes" is on album cuts like "Beauty and the Beast" and "Blackout" which weren't going to be on anybody's idea of Top 40 radio.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 6 February 2016 15:53 (eight years ago) link

xpost oof, Harry unsure about if/how to dial down her dryness. Not a good choice.

Hadrian VIII, Saturday, 6 February 2016 16:52 (eight years ago) link

Beauty and the Beast was a single. Sense of Doubt on the B-side, I think. Played it to death on my brother's stereo.

Michael Jones, Saturday, 6 February 2016 17:41 (eight years ago) link

sounds like a pretty killer 7" too

niels, Saturday, 6 February 2016 17:59 (eight years ago) link

apologies if this has been posted before but this is so good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF1Y7BzWbUs

Karl Malone, Sunday, 7 February 2016 15:27 (eight years ago) link

Coldplay is totally going to cover Bowie at halftime, aren't they?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 February 2016 00:14 (eight years ago) link

with Kanye as surprise guest prob

Number None, Monday, 8 February 2016 00:19 (eight years ago) link

Shit I wish Beyonce wld

albvivertine, Monday, 8 February 2016 00:56 (eight years ago) link

So we managed to have Bowie as the theme for last night's record club and still only listen to one Bowie album. And that one's only been out a month.

We did get to listen to Iggy's The Idiot, though, which I've wanted to hear for a while, and which is basically a Bowie in Berlin album, obviously. But Tom chose Here Come The Warm Jets which has nothing to do with Bowie other than it being by Brian Eno (but from before they even met, I think?).

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 09:47 (eight years ago) link

Perhaps you drifted into the parallel universe of the film Velvet Goldmine, where there is no Bowie music, but there is Roxy and Eno, the first song heard being "Needle In The Camel's Eye," iirc.

The Guilded Palace of Splinters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 11:33 (eight years ago) link

Perhaps there are more important things to worry about.

yugi ex, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 11:54 (eight years ago) link

No doubt. Please to enlighten as to what they are

The Guilded Palace of Splinters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 13:28 (eight years ago) link

"The Idiot" is wonderful, been listening to that a lot over the past few weeks.

"Last night I was down in the lab, hanging with Dracula and his crew!"

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 17:45 (eight years ago) link

^pure gold

Davey D, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 18:12 (eight years ago) link

Beauty Pill did an excellent cover of "Jump They Say" a few years ago, and put it online for a few hours today: https://octave.is/beautypill/jump-they-say

some dude, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 18:18 (eight years ago) link

i was just coming to post that, omg

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 19:35 (eight years ago) link

From his son.

https://twitter.com/ManMadeMoon/status/697489975261016064

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 19:37 (eight years ago) link

awww

uptown garfunkel (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link

;_; but also <3

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link

Oof. Sorry, I've got nothing more than that.

jedi slimane (suzy), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 20:39 (eight years ago) link

I finally saw the "Five Years" doc last night. Really nice! Loved the outtakes from the "Life on Mars" and "Ashes to Ashes" videos. Kind of hoping a massive Bowie DVD release comes out w this extra material on it.

It was a thrill to watch Carlos Alomar use a loop pedal to create on-the-spot versions of "Fame" etc. I was kind of surprised by how much the doc interviewed the actual musicians that played on it, which I loved. Fripp was hilarious as well!

THIS is how you do a music doc.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 14 February 2016 14:33 (eight years ago) link

just discovered that a few tracks on 'bowie at the beeb' were recorded the day i was born

mookieproof, Sunday, 14 February 2016 23:45 (eight years ago) link

i found my thrift store copy of the "Pin Ups" LP w the initials "JS" in the corner and a few skips on it. i love this album. it feels like a precursor to both the Philly funk and Berlin eras. the arrangements are usually pretty interesting and i like all the buzzy synth and pitch-shifted vocals. he uses them a lot on "Pin Ups"! "See Emily Play" in particular is cool and alien and futuristic, maybe something that could be "The Lodger". his cover of The Who's "I Can't Explain" is incredible Thin White Duke-style morphine-drip plastic soul.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 15 February 2016 18:18 (eight years ago) link

"Shapes of Things to Come" feels a LOT like "Roxy Music"

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 15 February 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link

the vocals are a bit uneven on the record though, on some songs it sounds like they were trying for rock n roll and failing, him pushing for a more theatrical approach with his vocals, maybe it clashes on one or two songs. "Fridays on My Mind" felt a little awkward? at any rate it's a cool transition album and i think highly underrated.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 15 February 2016 18:22 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwOQ5UQJ1dQ

"Anyway Anywhere Anyhow" is him doing his Iggy Pop isn't it? lovely!

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 15 February 2016 18:24 (eight years ago) link

I never truly understood that joke about "the living will envy the dead" until I saw Lady Gaga's "tribute" to Bowie on the Grammys last night. Holy fuck, that was awful. I know everything on the Grammys is aimed at 65-year-olds, but this was a special kind of clueless Vegas horror.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 11:06 (eight years ago) link

it would have been better if they had played 1 or 2 songs in full instead of an awkwardly slapped-together medley

crüt, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 12:16 (eight years ago) link

B-b-but better is not always better.

Have I The Right Profile? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 14:59 (eight years ago) link

yeah the mistake was shoving all of those songs in there, too cheesy, awful. should have done 2 and been done with it.

akm, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 15:05 (eight years ago) link

she should've restaged "Sweet Thing/Candidate" like on the 1974 tour.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 15:07 (eight years ago) link

The mistake was: no Laughing Gnome, no credibility.
Unless I blinked and missed it.

Have I The Right Profile? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 15:08 (eight years ago) link

Gawd that was wretched.

doug watson, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 16:37 (eight years ago) link

OK, the door is open for the Noel Gallagher, Damon Albarn and Bono tribute band..

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link

This was like what a David Bowie Super Bowl halftime show would've been, if Bowie had been asked, and if he was an idiot.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 16 February 2016 16:59 (eight years ago) link

Not sure where this came from but it's kinda interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEr3t1FggFI

MaresNest, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 23:22 (eight years ago) link

Weirdly, posted on the same day by a different YT username:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tJlv-9-PVg

MaresNest, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 23:42 (eight years ago) link

If she would have just done the Vegas arrangement of Heroes it would have been almost passable in a fun but terrible way. That was just terrible without being fun.

Taking dumps on a person's car is something children do (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 06:52 (eight years ago) link

Bowie's live performances (that I've watched) seem to be about wit and charisma just as much as the music, whereas the 2 minutes of the Gaga thing I was able to stand, seemed like a grim, joyless slog through as many references and snippets as possible. Kind of antithetical to the idea of a "tribute".

MatthewK, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 11:52 (eight years ago) link

I dunno, impossible task?

On the other hand, if she'd have just done a version of "Suffragette City", that might have worked.

Mark G, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 11:55 (eight years ago) link

I'll give her a pass after the national anthem at the Super Bowl.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 12:32 (eight years ago) link

Ned shared this via Facebook yesterday and it was a nuanced and intelligent read, so I thought I'd put it here. This topic has been, if not bugging me, then floating at the periphery of my consciousness. Since the Saville furor broke I've been waiting for 'pop' 'stars' (rather than DJs and TV presenters) to start being named, shamed, and charged in the same way, but it hasn't happened. And it hasn't happened because it's incredibly complicated.

http://jezebel.com/what-should-we-say-about-david-bowie-and-lori-maddox-1754533894

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 12:41 (eight years ago) link

That was very good

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 18 February 2016 00:25 (eight years ago) link

yeah i really like that piece. i like how deep it goes in expressing how much the 70's *was* another planet without letting Bowie off the hook

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 February 2016 02:34 (eight years ago) link


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