Musicians you would really punch in the face

Sorry to get all emo but this is the second time you've played this card today

Which one of these things doesn't belong here? (hint: coughthesecondonecough)

BTW, I hate gays and blacks equally.

and I love you, and you know it, too, but your conviction that white ppl not liking aboveground rap=white ppl revealing their secret racist hearts!!! needs serious reexamination. My hatred of Puffy isn't 'cause he's a convenient stand-in for stuff I don't like, it's cause back when he was all over the charts, listening to pop radio/watching MTV or its various equivalents became a fucking chore because I couldn't stand all that uncreative, dull recycling of songs under the guise of "sampling." You gotta give people the benefit of the doubt & take 'em at their word: people might just wanna punch Puffy in the face 'cause they think he sucks.

Oh yeah and there was the whole "I am no longer Puff Daddy, now I am P. Diddy" thing, which merits as much ridicule as the world can spare

physically attacking a bunch of black people who make 'bad' music = not racist

also he was diddy was before the namechange, he used it all over no way out!!

My hatred of Puffy isn't 'cause he's a convenient stand-in for stuff I don't like, it's cause back when he was all over the charts, listening to pop radio/watching MTV or its various equivalents became a fucking chore because I couldn't stand all that uncreative, dull recycling of songs under the guise of "sampling."

this statement makes no sense!! the second half merely reaffirms the first part you deny!! 'i hate modern hiphop--puffy is a representative of modern hiphop--i hate puffy' (or the even less convincing conclusion '--puffy is not a representative of modern hiphop')

and all that biggie stuff you love j0hn? straight puffy productions.

badboys 4 life was great too.

trife, here's what you said upthread:

in the past week the only thread on ilm to mention puffy or em or 50 or jay z is this one, when you only trot out these artists for a useless beatdown thread it starts to seem a little like racial profiling!! puffy hasnt even had a hit in years, hes not there for himself hes there as a symbol for rap that white people shouldnt like

so I was responding to that. Despite your multiple exclamation points, it is perfectly possible (even rational!) to hate Puffy because one thinks his music is ass & he couldn't write a lyric if his life depended on it. His records are ass. His production skills, whatever. The records he takes lead on suck bone. Period. As Sterling points out, he has appalling taste in music ("Every Breath You Take" is worth biting? JESUS), and his "sampling" is just such dull use of the medium. I NEVER SAID "oh he steals other people's stuff." I said that the way he did it is BORING. And it is.

I honestly can't think of any musician I'd like to punch; I accidentally ended up shoving Damon Albarn once and since he is my most hated that was satisfying enough.

I am not a big fan of Moby, but after my limited viewings of Cribs, I respect him a lot for still staying in the City.

The worst offenders are: Hollywood people who seem to care a lot about the victimized around the world, but probably dont ever step down from the hills to do anything about it at home (NB I finished City of Quartz a month ago and am still naseuous.) I am more unusure of how to feel about rappers, as some have made their money decalaiming the opressive police state in the ghetto and then they escape behind gated communities once they get famous. Either they didnt learn anything or know too much.

I need clarification on these points.