I still want to keep growing as a songwriter for as long as I can. This isn't it for me. It doesn't feel like I've arrived just yet.
i love her
― dyl, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 16:07 (eight years ago) link
i feel like the second verse of "brand new" is even better than anything kendrick would have contributed, but i also want to hear this putative remix!
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 16:22 (eight years ago) link
i also have no idea whether he'd go apologetic or battle-of-sexes confrontational, but either way, jazmine's original tells the woman's story fully, and the male response should def be a part 2 rather than built into that
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link
i too would love hearing kendrick on a remix, but sadly i think she has been quietly pushed from mainstream r&b radio to adult r&b radio over the course of this album cycle, where i think such a thing wouldn't take. obv we have discussed the difficulties black women in r&b (and in general) face in the mainstream lately so it seems like the older audience who wants to hear "let it burn" (as they should -- great song!) is where the industry will keep her slotted for some time :\
i remember hearing "brand new" on the mainstream r&b/hip-hop station here a couple times, complete with a recording of jazmine introducing it, but sadly they stopped playing it before long and now the only place i hear her is on the adult station that has "let it burn" in strong rotation
― dyl, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 16:41 (eight years ago) link
at both of her 2016 NYC plays (including a free concert with a 5k+ showing and a fairly expensive $40 ticket that sold out about 2.5k), both shows provided an unofficial but consistent demographic: Jazmine's audience is certainly but not drastically older than the mainstream hip hop/R&B radio demographic (heavy on the 20/early 30 somethings), more women than men (maybe a 70/30 split), lots of queer signifiers among the male audience members and a fan base dominated by more than 90% people of color.
It's worth noting that her fans are not casual fans; the crowd was going crazy every time she directly addressed them, did a costume change or tried something new with a song. They were as enthusiastic about cuts from the first album as the new album. She's endowed with the "1000 True Fans" curse/blessing: she'll be able to make a comfortable living as an artist doing it more or less the way she wants to for the rest of her career but unless she kowtows to the market, she's unlikely to have a genre-crossing megahit anytime in the next decade.
― ulysses, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link
yeah, that's what i've seen on the few times she's been to the uk, and it applies to a large proportion of my own personal fav artists. i'm not that mad about jazmine not smashing on the charts, i'm mad that she really doesn't get her critical due - or at least, critics seem to ultimately love her but editors don't commission them to write about her. reality show got hardly any critical ink in 2015 and then placed surprisingly high on p&j, and of course there's the grammy nom. but where is the coverage? ok, there's a bit, but she should be talked about alongside kendrick.
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 20:39 (eight years ago) link
I just remembered I haven't listened to this album in three weeks.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 21:56 (eight years ago) link
There's an interview with Pitchfork up as well! Shame it's not a part of the "main" site though where I assume more people might see it. http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1016-jazmine-sullivan-on-songwritings-labor-of-love/
― art baengels (monotony), Tuesday, 9 February 2016 22:05 (eight years ago) link
WTF at that crank yankers video for dumb
― ulysses, Tuesday, 9 February 2016 22:47 (eight years ago) link
That was pretty much the audience breakdown when I saw her in Philly too though it seemed to be a bit younger slanted. I looooove that Pitchfork piece, and I just realized that mural is on my way to work and I have never seen it!!
― police patrol felt the smell of smoke and found that goat burns (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 14:11 (eight years ago) link
also does an unedited version of "Reality Show" even exist?? every copy I've heard has a bunch of (but not all???) of the *choice words* backmasked. Is this a thing that ppl do?
― police patrol felt the smell of smoke and found that goat burns (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 14:15 (eight years ago) link
it's um, up on spotify.
― ulysses, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 14:56 (eight years ago) link
I haven't fully gone through the curses but my sense is that she mutes them or not for dramatic/character effect
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 16:42 (eight years ago) link
oh i see what you're talking about wrt 'Brand New'yeah, i think you're right lex; compare to '#hoodlove' where such niceties are quickly dropped.
― ulysses, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 16:44 (eight years ago) link
same with "b___ don't kill my vibe" on Mascara
― police patrol felt the smell of smoke and found that goat burns (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link
ha i wondered this for ages re: the editing
reminds me of being unable to find a completely unedited version of the miseducation of lauryn hill back in the day
― dyl, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link
i just filed a profile of jazmine; i hung out with her at her mom's place
― maura, Thursday, 11 February 2016 04:28 (eight years ago) link
whoa rad
― get a long, little doggy (m bison), Thursday, 11 February 2016 05:07 (eight years ago) link
Rad, please link when its up?
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 11 February 2016 05:37 (eight years ago) link
Awesome! Are the grammys the sole reason for all of this recent promo or is she just finally getting the spotlight she has long deserved?
― art baengels (monotony), Thursday, 11 February 2016 05:50 (eight years ago) link
i think it's the grammys
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 February 2016 06:34 (eight years ago) link
in that case hoping to see some more writeups of kehlani and the internet!
― art baengels (monotony), Thursday, 11 February 2016 06:58 (eight years ago) link
here you go :)
https://www.redbulletin.com/us/us/culture/jazmine-sullivan-is-rbs-new-queen
― maura, Friday, 12 February 2016 15:08 (eight years ago) link
nice piece Maura!i love this moment from the live version of "Forever Don't Last"; when she does this, it's so clear that she acts as a very real avatar for a meaningful portion of her audience that doesn't often hear their voice on the radiohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeIg6BaEDbg#t=2m23s
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 February 2016 15:30 (eight years ago) link
bah, got the embed wrong, jump to 2.19
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 February 2016 15:31 (eight years ago) link
Definitely agree. I felt it when I saw her in Boston last year, too.
― maura, Friday, 12 February 2016 15:36 (eight years ago) link
great piece maura :)
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Friday, 12 February 2016 15:47 (eight years ago) link
thank you lex :) talking to you on saturday helped crystallize a lot of its bits in my mind!
― maura, Friday, 12 February 2016 15:50 (eight years ago) link
here's another good interview http://www.slantmagazine.com/features/article/interview-jazmine-sullivan
― cher guevara (lex pretend), Saturday, 13 February 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link
hilariously tacky https://twitter.com/seabethree/status/788527991768903681
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 01:47 (seven years ago) link
She's getting lots of grief for it on twitter
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-cNN_SPqL0
― Jeff W, Friday, 4 August 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link
like this a lot
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Saturday, 5 August 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link
new single!!!! it's good!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnZb_a3oKwE
― monotony, Friday, 28 August 2020 03:54 (three years ago) link
love this (and love that she’s back)
― No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Friday, 28 August 2020 06:37 (three years ago) link
Yes
― curmudgeon, Friday, 28 August 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link
yes!
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Friday, 28 August 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link
my god
I'm ready
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 28 August 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link
I was wondering where Jazmine had gone only last week. This song is fantastic.
― Tim F, Friday, 28 August 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link
FINALLY
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 28 August 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link
She notably reappeared in my Spotify daily mix playlists a few weeks back, but not with new material, hmmm.
― Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Friday, 28 August 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link
friday lunchtime cries
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 28 August 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link
revisited Love Me Back a few weeks ago apropos of our "best year for music in the 2010's" poll. def one of the reasons why i went with 2010
new song is beautiful
― gaudio, Friday, 28 August 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link
omg, "Pick Up Your Feelings" is fucking perfecthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkMRkQbVLVU
― Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 November 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link
Lost One is lovely but sounds like an intro/outro imo. Feelings otoh is a fucking banger.
― Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 November 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link
wow
― kiss some penis reference (breastcrawl), Friday, 20 November 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link
i love her so much
― monotony, Saturday, 21 November 2020 01:37 (three years ago) link
here's the live version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeP--wHHiy8
― monotony, Saturday, 21 November 2020 01:38 (three years ago) link
what if this ends up being her best album yet
― dyl, Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:12 (three years ago) link
so good
― swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Saturday, 21 November 2020 16:17 (three years ago) link