Techno/house bobbins, 2009

"hearhear" is not so good but "20 to 20" and the new one are great, anyway

come to think of it, that whole east coast rave thing (wink, nigel richards, feelgood, scott henry, etc) was really pretty bad. now that i think of it, the west coast shit (hardkiss, rabbit in the moon, donald glaude, simply jeff, etc) was bad as well. and then of course there was the florida crap like icey. i think rave and me were just not meant to be.

hardkiss are great too

oh yeah i forgot about how bad NYC "techno" was: beltram (outside his few obvious classics that i do like, but not even that much), bones, etc. god, raving in the US was a pit of obnoxiously terrible music.

do you actually dislike this stuff or do you just dislike the fact that you can't contextualize it as part of THE GREAT BLACK TRADITION of techno and house

no i just hated all of this before i knew anything about techno and house music. it was once i started listening to the good stuff that i noticed the correlation, and then upon reading more about it i discovered that it was connected in the way that it was a culture before rave that was quite separate from raving.

i don't think it's quite as separate as you'd like to think, but whatever

i would say there is about 15% overlap, and that represents most of the worst music to come out of NYC, Chicago, and Detroit.

i mean there's a whole scene of dudes like dj sneak and derrick carter and green velvet and whatnot who were playing american rave and playing stuff in the chicago tradition, but then they had the advantage of actually growing up in chicago where they had access to stuff like that.

why can't you just appreciate US rave music on its own merits the way you'd appreciate, i don't know, jungle?

are you really calling armand van helden the worst 15% of music to come out of NYC?

Going to try to resist saying anything about new Wink until I've finished listening to it. It's going to be hard, though.

Now I finished and I find I can't say anything. My ears feel awfully clean, though, and I think I want to fight a truck.

oh god, stimming's "loneliness" off his new album is annoying!

bill withers - who is he (henrik schwarz edit) - love this, rad little string interjections and the trick he does with the stereo channels in a few of the samples is very smooth

tobias freund has been remixing his share recently, s/d? russ gabriel, franco cinelli, alex under, nhar??

Russ Gabriel remix is pretty great. Not feeling the October remix, but I think I'm missing the point of that whole release. Haven't heard the others you mentioned.

how is russ gabriel's new stuff?

Re: Pier Bucci. Loving his remix of Ziggy Kinder - Flipflop Crash. The perfect combination of melancholy and jack.

xpost - whatever, but he isn't a "tool".

tools are more useful than music. for instance a bottle opener opens a bottle. music on the other hand offers a path into utility free worlds.

i mean, if you don't want people to call you a tool, i suggest never having white guy dreadlocks.

^^ this is actually on-point

i'm glad we've found something we can all agree on

Yo, I didn't know where else to ask, and it didn't seem worth starting a new thread, but song ID from this new Sprint commercial? It drives me nuts every time I see it.

yo, me too want an ID for this amazing track played by move d last year: http://www.zshare.net/audio/586251130441f6e5/

@ slugbaiting

http://theinspirationroom.com/daily/2009/sprint-whats-happening-now/

just getting into culoe de song - 'the bright forest' is incredible. so menacing. that piano...

re: the move d id

is it just me or does that fast melody sound like it's from another song?

yeah i suppose that video is a little exploitive, but not so much compared to titling your recent dj mix "fabric 45 - omar s (detroit)"

thanks, groovypanda. song sounded so familiar... guess it wasn't, though.

i gave it a quick spin last night but i agree with lex, that culoe de song record is very nice.

The Resident Advisor podcast he did is lovely, if you haven't gotten it yet.

just want to share my happiness: dixon is coming to my country! wooohoooo!!

STL, "Silent State"

My mind is blown. What an elegant tune. Will someone please force Stefan to make an album for, say, Perlon? Or hell, Smallville if it's going to sound anything like "Silent State."

Where can I hear it LWE? Streaming anywhere?

I've not seen it streaming anywhere yet, but it's leaked all over the place, sadly.

Oh, you can hear it in Efdemin's new mix for us: http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/talking-shopcast-with-diamonds-pearls-music/

so, what does "upbuilding" actually mean?

i been repping Culoe de Song for a while now. love the RA podcast.

i have tried and tried and tried to like Josh Wink, but i still hate him. the new album, the older stuff, all of it-- i just can't get into it, and don't really have the time or inclination to investigate the reasons.

so, what does (any term mentioned in a boomkat review) actually mean?

'upbuilding' always gets mentioned with tracks that have those slow layer by layer builds - i think of 'balandine' as an obvious example.

totally feeling this right now (A-side, mostly)

what's it like?

ooh, google reveals that it is actually an edit of a real to reel track from the 1980's, but more beat-choppy. dub version removes the vocals

source material:

floating points orig. vers.

guys i went a bit mental with the credit card last week and now a package has arrived at work from juno. i wanna go home and play these! stupid job.

DPLAY - Huub Sand - Running Back Germany 12"
JAYSON BROTHERS - Monster Box - Raw Cuts 12"
SNUFF CREW - Lovefreak - Playhouse Germany 12"
PANTHA DU PRINCE - Behind The Stars - Dial Germany 12"
FAZE ACTION - Good Lovin' - Faze Action 12"
CAPRACARA - King Of The Witches - DFA US 12"
MARK E - Slave 1 - Running Back Germany 12"
ALTER EGO - Betty Ford EP - Klang Electronik Germany 12" <- old bobbin

I'm loving Oliver Huntemann's "H-3" ... it's a bit of a slow burner, but it'll reward your patience if you give it a chance.

hey remember how clone was meant to be shutting down as an imprint for new music last month? they actually are launching SIX new sub-labels!

Details?

haha that was rather rude wasn't it? details here

ok so everyone is right about the culoe de song. "the bright forest" and their ra podcast are all the convincing i need

errr, his ra podcast