I think it's actually quite well written even though I disagree with a lot of it; laura gets a free pass for life anyway after her evisceration of mark kozelek in the guardian last year
― art baengels (monotony), Thursday, 25 February 2016 11:47 (eight years ago) link
ignoring the score, i agree with a lot in that review!
Like a lot of When you sleep, his lyrics dip perilously from inspiring to embarrassing.
totally otm but also his best trait
― tpp, Thursday, 25 February 2016 12:04 (eight years ago) link
Yeah I think Laura's review is really insightful on how so many of The 1975's choices become love/hate propositions, which she can capture pretty well given she is somewhat on the fence. And I think the ambient stuff (even the monumental title track) can only really be notable and loveable if you're already in the tent (I don't get where she's hearing Bon Iver though. The snatches of vocals I suppose), otherwise I can understand why the instinctive reaction would be "if I wanted stuff like this why would I come to this band in the first instance?"
― Tim F, Thursday, 25 February 2016 12:05 (eight years ago) link
it was snowing this morning & i took the long route to work so i could listen to this all the way thru. v good.
― tpp, Thursday, 25 February 2016 12:13 (eight years ago) link
i can't really understand where she hears Autre Ne Veut or Baths or Bon Iver. it's well written, but I disagree with a lot of propositions that are made, like when she says they were "basically inoffensive pop-rock pitched somewhere between Phoenix, the Strokes, and Jimmy Eat World". it's missing the point.
on other hand, now i'm completely in love with 'paris' song.
― Nourry, Thursday, 25 February 2016 12:34 (eight years ago) link
i don't know if i agree with those musical comparisons (jimmy eat world, certainly) but i think her point is that the hatred directed at this band was never really related to the music they were making at that time.
― tpp, Thursday, 25 February 2016 12:45 (eight years ago) link
but rather it has all to do with ppls ongoing obsession with authenticity. her point in the end is also extremely otm:
For Britain's biggest young guitar band to ditch laddy machismo, embrace the boy band ideal, and run on feeling rather than posturing—that feels kind of radical.
― tpp, Thursday, 25 February 2016 12:47 (eight years ago) link
but yeah i agree with tim that it's especially cool that she managed to express these points despite the fact she clearly hasn't sipped from the 1975 kool aid like most of us here (myself included)
― tpp, Thursday, 25 February 2016 12:50 (eight years ago) link
it's quite a positive review for a 6.5 from pitchfork really
― ufo, Thursday, 25 February 2016 13:14 (eight years ago) link
Started listening to this this morning. Made it as far as "The Ballad of Me and My Brain." My favorite song so far is "Love Me," which sounds like INXS covering "Fame" (Bowie, not Irene Cara) with Trevor Horn producing. I like "She's American" a lot too.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 25 February 2016 13:53 (eight years ago) link
The bridge on She's American is one of my favourite moments on this
― ufo, Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:04 (eight years ago) link
pitchfork's review is so lame. Brad should've written it, imo.
i would've given it five 10.0s. they made the right choice
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:44 (eight years ago) link
laura's review is great in that I can unlock it from the score and it still matches up with a lot of my ideas of what this record does well
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2016 14:45 (eight years ago) link
That Pitchfork review does echo my sentiment that PC Music really needs to get started on putting together a boy band. I mean it will likely be terrible, but it would also be interesting.
― MarkoP, Thursday, 25 February 2016 16:24 (eight years ago) link
I want whatever machine they used on "Somebody Else" to make him sound exactly like Michael McDonald.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 25 February 2016 18:09 (eight years ago) link
was kinda thinking he sounded a bit like alison moyet even before they turned on the mcdonaldtron
sweet of 'paris' to cover yazoo 'only you' to prove the point
― r|t|c, Thursday, 25 February 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link
WHERE WOULD I BE IF I WAS MY BRAIN
― uberweiss, Thursday, 25 February 2016 19:17 (eight years ago) link
Disappointed the one called "Please Be Naked" has no lyrics.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2016 19:36 (eight years ago) link
never heard anything more beautiful than the title track
― uberweiss, Thursday, 25 February 2016 22:06 (eight years ago) link
A good album whose inclusion of three instrumentals astonishes me.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2016 22:14 (eight years ago) link
they're good though
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 February 2016 22:15 (eight years ago) link
there are three?
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2016 22:24 (eight years ago) link
anyway if anything they were the moments i knew this record was really stretching out
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2016 22:26 (eight years ago) link
People seem to keep missing the 30 seconds of vocals on the title track xp
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 25 February 2016 22:26 (eight years ago) link
oh alfred what do you think of "this must be my dream"
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 February 2016 22:31 (eight years ago) link
the melody on 'a change of heart' that sounds like it's played on a kazoo or something cracks me up.
― tpp, Thursday, 25 February 2016 22:51 (eight years ago) link
"this must be my dream" isn't one of my favs, "paris" makes up for it tho
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 February 2016 23:17 (eight years ago) link
75 minutes? this is the sex & the city 2 of albums. someone pls post their preferred edit
― cozen, Thursday, 25 February 2016 23:22 (eight years ago) link
every track is essential
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 February 2016 23:35 (eight years ago) link
this makes me think of 'in ghost colors'
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 26 February 2016 00:22 (eight years ago) link
The lyrics of "This Must Be My Dream" are pretty confusing but I'm assuming that the references to "I can't wait for you boy" in the chorus are sung from the perspective of the hypothesised girlfriend, not from Matt to another guy.
― Tim F, Friday, 26 February 2016 00:26 (eight years ago) link
(structurally)
better than 'in ghost colors,' though
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 26 February 2016 00:39 (eight years ago) link
I could do without the acoustic tracks at the end (though the lyrics to "She Lays Down" are great)
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 26 February 2016 00:41 (eight years ago) link
yeah i feel that. those songs are very personal & the album is so generous up to that point that they feel warranted tho.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 26 February 2016 01:32 (eight years ago) link
those two are probably the least essential tracks but I wouldn't say they're inessential with the way the album progresses as Tim had mentioned. I don't really know what else the album could end with except maybe the title track? Normally I'd agree with Simon that a track like Nana would be better somewhere earlier in the album as a palate cleanser but I don't think there's really space for it anywhere else on this.
― ufo, Friday, 26 February 2016 01:48 (eight years ago) link
I love what this band has gotten away with: selling the ILM 2016 conception of good pop.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 February 2016 01:59 (eight years ago) link
"nana" is stunning imo in a very similar way to "paris" the latter burying unbelievable animosity in a kind of sweet swaying "only you" facsimile and the former embedding unbelievable grief in a very gentle setting
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2016 04:25 (eight years ago) link
anyway can't imagine being lukewarm on "this must be my dream," the alexander o'neal jam of the record
oh re: what I said about "Paris" and "nana": not that those concepts are in any way inherently opposed
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2016 04:27 (eight years ago) link
anyway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSnAllHtG70
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2016 04:57 (eight years ago) link
OMG.
The second half of this.
― Tim F, Friday, 26 February 2016 05:13 (eight years ago) link
"They're essentially making robotic Huey Lewis tunes."
"Unconvincing emo lyrics"
i love how the real choir on "if i believe you" rubs up against the blast of sound that in the second verse that sounds kinda like a choir but also sounds like a hole being blown open in an airplane
― J0rdan S., Friday, 26 February 2016 05:22 (eight years ago) link
that song is...... incredibly good
― J0rdan S., Friday, 26 February 2016 05:23 (eight years ago) link
taken from a real village voice headline
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2016 05:26 (eight years ago) link
I hope all the quotes are real.
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 26 February 2016 05:27 (eight years ago) link
yeah these all seemed very specifically sourced. Nice touch when they start syncing with the piano line too.
My only criticism is that the brief bit where it switches and the band is in seats watching the audience behind the glass (thankfully not expanded on) threatens to make the whole thing a bit "DO YOU SEE!?!?!?!"
― Tim F, Friday, 26 February 2016 05:28 (eight years ago) link
YOU ARE THE ONES WHO ARE IN THE BOXES
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2016 05:30 (eight years ago) link
WE ARE JUDGING YOU JUDGING US
― Tim F, Friday, 26 February 2016 05:35 (eight years ago) link