grime in 2004

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errrrrr...D Double?

adam. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 28 August 2004 00:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmm, maybe. I might have to call you and sing it.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 28 August 2004 01:22 (nineteen years ago) link

the pained growl might be your stomach.

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 28 August 2004 02:27 (nineteen years ago) link

eat eat you're nothing but skin and bones

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 28 August 2004 02:27 (nineteen years ago) link

"diplo" from "hollertronix" did a grime rundown in this month's issue of fashionable birdcage liner "fader"

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 28 August 2004 02:27 (nineteen years ago) link

plus bonus killa cam intervier, so zemko should be well plzed hem hem

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 28 August 2004 02:28 (nineteen years ago) link

did anyone watch 'rude girls' on ch. 2?

cºzen (Cozen), Monday, 30 August 2004 19:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Kano's "Ps & Qs"! Great bassy groove courtesy of Davinche, it reminds me of "What's Your Fantasy" actually. Silverdollarcircle half-right in that it needs a slightly better chorus but it's okay enough and the rapping is totally fabulous. All I wanna know is whether the Seefeel-ish intro on Cameo's current 1xtra show is actually part of it - Cameo rewound and then it seemed to start with an entirely different groove.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 04:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow this Cameo show is solid fire!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 04:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I love the frisky, multitonal bongo/percussion rolls in so many tracks at the moment - their "funky" liquidity overlays the de rigeur rigid grime beats without cancelling them out, so the tunes occupy both camps simultaneously. See the P Jam mix of Shystie's "Women's World".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 04:34 (nineteen years ago) link

bongos are also a trademark of dubstep. see Skreamz, Kode 9, Loefah and Digital Mystikz. this way you can have momentum with the snares slow - without resorting to full on noizy breakbeats...

martin (martin), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Skwish Skwadz use bongos on some of their stuff

DaRinsa (DaRinsa), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link

"grime 2" - worse than the first?

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

grime 2 is out and out dubstep: loefah, digital mystikz and kode 9.
not even nearly grime...

martin (martin), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link

SO STOP CALLING IT GRIME

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link

"bongos are also a trademark of dubstep. see Skreamz, Kode 9, Loefah and Digital Mystikz. this way you can have momentum with the snares slow - without resorting to full on noizy breakbeats..."

Yeah well of course but the effect is quite different. If anything the rhythms on such grime tracks remind me more of that earlier period where dubstep was still only just emerging out of more energetic bassy 2-step tunes and you had these crazy intricate chopped beats before proper dubstep's more torpid sophistication took over - think El-B's "Serious (Zed Bias Mix)".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 22:06 (nineteen years ago) link

"Serious" is a masterpiece, never fully felt the Zed mix of that one myself. El-B's mix of Zed's "Time Out" is another masterclass. Damn it's taken *years* to get those woodblocks out of my head...

martin (martin), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 22:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never heard the original "Serious" so I can't compare... and i lost the Zed Bias mix as well in a tragic hard drive accident two years ago. :-(

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link

See the P Jam mix of Shystie's "Women's World"

Awesome, sounds like an overdriven bass guitar in there too!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:08 (nineteen years ago) link

oooooh, but that "Frontline" track doesn't sound exactly right. The rhythm is not working with the song part.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link

"you're messing with the New Cross slew boss"

blimp, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

alot of organic instrument sounds in this. Roll Deep's "Flying Away" sounds like there's a whole band!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I have not listened to any grime in weeks! :(

adam. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Check the current Cameo show adam!

"Flying Away" was great too!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Terror Danjah latest mix show

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/1xtra_aod.shtml?ukgmix

couple of interesting points. all the vocal tracks at the beginning - more evidence for grime going back towards the vocal/r&b side.

also L Man. his lyrical content, in the early part does that thing KRS One used to do, spitting random facts about slavery. nice subject matter but i never think it lyrically works, overwhelming listeners with random hystorical data...

thoughts?

( ps anyone know what the indian lick riddim that comes in at 01h:12m:40s ? )

martin (martin), Monday, 6 September 2004 11:02 (nineteen years ago) link

L Man from NAA? I thought he was white.

scg, Monday, 6 September 2004 11:47 (nineteen years ago) link

he is...

martin (martin), Monday, 6 September 2004 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link

just checked L Man - some of the best 1XTRA on air MCing I've heard

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 9 September 2004 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

that Big Sikh (?) track "Yeah Yeah" is great too
anyone know who produced the riddim?

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 9 September 2004 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Roll Deep at Cargo (London) tomorrow night. come pay yer tenner and play the 'will they wont they turn up' game...!

martin (martin), Friday, 10 September 2004 09:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Fuck it, I'm in!

adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 September 2004 10:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Shoreditch oh no

adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 10 September 2004 10:25 (nineteen years ago) link

the link between Wiley and Ross Allen is facinating, it dates back to the Pay as U Go Days. but it's not as facinating as this fact: do you know who played keyboards on 'Champagne Dance?' ...

martin (martin), Friday, 10 September 2004 10:44 (nineteen years ago) link

.... HERBERT!!!!

martin (martin), Friday, 10 September 2004 10:45 (nineteen years ago) link

:-O

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 10 September 2004 10:48 (nineteen years ago) link

headfuk innit...

martin (martin), Friday, 10 September 2004 10:51 (nineteen years ago) link

i think the only way i could be more confused right now is if it was someone from blur or something

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 10 September 2004 10:52 (nineteen years ago) link

it's a total UK culture cross-circuit that one.

(it also explains why Herbert was playing Igloo at Sonar last year )

martin (martin), Friday, 10 September 2004 10:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Didn't he recently drop a set of straight dancehall as well?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 10 September 2004 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah out of Igloo or some wiley beat.

anyway if Roll Deep is to shoreditch for some it's the Sidewinder awards at Ocean next saturday. Biggle!

martin (martin), Friday, 10 September 2004 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link

i heard a track on pirate radios that is a simple loop of some slayer/death metal material, it's quite cool, i think it was Bruzer and another guy shouting on top of it

anybody has a name for that?

tron, Friday, 10 September 2004 12:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Big E.D. 'The Rush'

martin (martin), Friday, 10 September 2004 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Track ID please. Very popular track, 1 year old at most. There's multiple MC's and there's a pained growl at the end of virtually every verse... anyone?
-- Spencer Chow (spencercho...), August 27th, 2004.

Could it be "Forward" by DJ Mondie? It kind of fits the description.

Kno Dis, Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes! It's actually: DJ Mondie feat. Napa, Ribz, Shizzle & Flirta - "Pull Up That"

It's one of the first tracks on the Cameo 1xtra mix this week (I think Femme Fatale played it a long time ago).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 16:51 (nineteen years ago) link

there is very little grime on radio at the moment, not sure why. DTI hitting harder plus big players off making LPs etc...

-- martin
update please, Martin

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 16 September 2004 22:27 (nineteen years ago) link

about what albums or radio?

martin (martin), Friday, 17 September 2004 09:08 (nineteen years ago) link

ESSENTIALS

ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 17 September 2004 10:12 (nineteen years ago) link

...are on the up at the mo

martin (martin), Friday, 17 September 2004 10:17 (nineteen years ago) link


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