Stone Roses - Stone Roses: C/D?

guy who made Spike Island has an Oasis doc in the pipeline, sounds like a proper renaissance man

Was thinking about crowdfunding a Knebworth film starring James Nesbitt, Simon Pegg and Danny Dyer.

john simm

Ooh good one.

I want to see a doc about greasy rockers throwing warm bottles of piss at Meatloaf and Bonnie Tyler at Reading '89, that was the true spirit of the age.

Reading '79 you mean. By '89 it was all Butthole Surfers and Mudhoney.ie. Fun.

It was Reading '88 that Meatloaf and Bonnie Tyler got bottled at.

http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/reading-88.html

When you get to my age and have never actually attended a music festival, it's pretty good work just to be a year out!

i forgot about this, it's excellent. Bob Stanley on Spike Island

http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2015/may/27/stone-roses-spike-island-the-reality

and the comments under it (seemingly ALL from Roses fans who were there) are very relevant to the above discussion from the past week! almost no one has a good word to say about the gig.

is this plot summary from the Spike Island movie wikipedia page accurate or just someone trolling?

Set in May 1990, the movie follows the exploits of five lads. Gary 'Tits' Tichfield, Darren 'Dodge' Howard, Chris 'Zippy' Weeks, 'Little' Gaz Duffy and 'Penfold' Andrew Peach. The Stone Roses fans and wannabe band Shadowcastre. It starts 60 hours prior to The Stone Roses legendary gig at Spike Island, Widnes, Cheshire. When the group get an idea to give The Stone Roses their cassette tape from Sally a girl which both 'Tits' and 'Dodge' show interest in, although 'Dodge' has never spoken to her. They hatch a plan to get tickets to the gig and kickstart their career 'Tits' brother 'Ibiza Steve' gets the boys on the guest-list for the gig. But when 'Tits' dad gets increasingly ill during the 60 hours, he fails to turn up and on the morning of the gig his dad worsens but his dad tells 'Tits' to go to the gig.'Penfolds' dad burns his top in an effort to stop him from going and when he goes to hit him 'Penfolds' stands up to his dad after his dad has been abusing him and heads to the gig. They lure 'Uncle Hairy' out of his van and steal it but when they run out of gas they have to stop but 'Penfold' convinces them to walk to the M6. They hide in the baggage hold of the bus until they arrive at Spike Island. Once arrived they jump out of their hiding place and are chased by police and the bus driver but lose them in the crowd. They lose 'Penfold' and are unable to find him, so they carry on to the entry zone. But are thrown away because they don't have tickets and they don't have guestlists. The remaining 4 make their way to the outside of the venue. They meet Sally who has lost her friends in the crowd and doesn't want to go in alone and gives 'Dodge' her ticket.'Dodge' heads for the gig without the cassette tape because he was afraid "to fuck it up". On his way back to the boys, he sees Sally and 'Tits' hooking up. 'Tits' and 'Dodge' later argue but when 'Tits' dad eventually dies they make up. At the end of the movie it's shown that 'Tits' and Sally are together and all the boys have moved on as School has finished. The ending scene shows 'Tits' and looking at 'Dodge' from his window while 'Dodge' walks down the lane with his guitar and bags.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_Island_(film)

http://www.richardhellergallery.com/dynamic/images/display/44_19_TITSDETAIL.jpg

I think its the prequel for the Seahorses' "Love is the Law"

Cast overview, first billed only:

Elliott Tittensor ... Tits

But are thrown away because they don't have tickets and they don't have guestlists

fookin binned

i like the way the summary is written in the style of "your 7-year-old nephew telling you about a movie he has seen"

They were atrocious when I saw em at Feile '95

Listening to Turns Into Stone again and finding myself hitting repeat on 'Where Angels Play'... it's amazing to think that this song originally wasn't meant to come out - it's brilliant, possibly my favourite ever song of theirs. Particularly love the drumming throughout this track (that shuffle on the hi-hat!) and the outro, wish I always wish would go on for longer.

Fools Gold is absolutely classic, can't nobody deny that.

I bought the album cuz of Fools Gold and was taken aback by all the chimey birds/Beatles stuff.. Fell in love with repeated listens. Curtain call for 80s dreamy guitar pop

Pay attention to the basswork on "Where Angels Play" too. Mani is such an underrated bass player too. In fact, as a rhythm section, the Mani/Reni combo is pretty phenomenal. Complex but surprisingly subtle.

Fools Gold is absolutely classic, can't nobody deny that.

― lute bro (brimstead), Monday, May 23, 2016 8:56 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fools Gold is so boring.

― Matt DC, Saturday, May 21, 2016 12:02 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

'Elephant Stone' is my fave off the Turns Into Stone comp. great bass and drums on that one too

Turns into Stone is phenomenal. I think The Complete Stone Roses is slightly better because it has a couple other great songs that aren't on Turns into Stone, like "Across the Sands" and "Sally Cinnamon." Also, some copies came with what I think is their best backwards track, "I am Without Shoes," which genuinely sends shivers down my spine.

favourite non-Roses Mani moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5P3xQeN2YA

that version in particular.

John Leckie not being involved with the new album is a major red flag

I don't think the production is the problem

actually can't think of a fanbase more likely to swallow any old load of turgid shit and get agro with detractors than roses obsessives

― the unbearable jimmy smits (jim in glasgow)

Beyonce

otm

Back of the net.

shhhh you cant say that on ilm

actually can't think of a fanbase more likely to swallow any old load of turgid shit and get agro with detractors than roses obsessives

― the unbearable jimmy smits (jim in glasgow)

Beyonce

― Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, May 25, 2016 1:53 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

im not touching that with a bargepole

They got to you too?

Which is the most cunty beyonce thread and i will c&p the above to it

What's she done that qualifies as a "load of turgid shit", tho?

Not itt

I bet you'd make a cracking guest on Desert Island Discs:p

Id do my best to entertain but id imagine youd do a fair bit of damage yourself!

I just heard All for One now. More plodding and uninspiring than a 3rd single from an 00s Oasis album.

The Beyonce example doesn't work as a lot of her fans think her first and third albums are really weak and the new material on the self titled reissue was poorly received too. It's only really her latest three albums that have been hugely popular. The Stone Roses qualify as the comments to this new single range from bizarre acts of loyalty, "it's the best song I've heard in 22 years" to finding ridiculous reasons why people are against it, "people are slagging it off before they've even heard it" and "where's your band if you think you can do better?". I've never seen any Beyonce fans search for reasons like that.

so their shows at the Etihad have Public Enemy on the bill

Ian's a massive fanboy.

The Beyonce example doesn't work as a lot of her fans think her first and third albums are really weak and the new material on the self titled reissue was poorly received too. It's only really her latest three albums that have been hugely popular. The Stone Roses qualify as the comments to this new single range from bizarre acts of loyalty, "it's the best song I've heard in 22 years" to finding ridiculous reasons why people are against it, "people are slagging it off before they've even heard it" and "where's your band if you think you can do better?". I've never seen any Beyonce fans search for reasons like that.

― Kitchen Person, Friday, 27 May 2016 01:28 (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is the stone roses thread

i know i can smell it from here

Wake up, boo

This whole argument makes absolute sense because both Stone Roses albums are indisputably held in equally high esteem.

I remember meeting Bob Stanley at Spike Island, he was a friend of a friend. I had to ask him three times what the name of his new band was, and finally just nodded and pretended I had understood. "Sainytain" or something like that. The day was a bit underwhelming, I wandered around on my own for hours on end, slightly stoned and dehydrated, and by the time the band was finally on, had developed a full on migraine. I enjoyed the gig, but it's not a great memory.

Seeing quite a few Avalanches fans in denial this week.

So, last week it was number 17, this week..