poor guy is gonna get older and better (i hope) and this is gonna be very embarrassing for him.
― De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Friday, 3 June 2016 17:54 (eight years ago) link
you guys, it's TOO easy.
― scott seward, Friday, 3 June 2016 17:56 (eight years ago) link
it's like picking up a high school newspaper and saying get a load of THIS guy...
― scott seward, Friday, 3 June 2016 17:59 (eight years ago) link
Counterpoint: you guys are old and weird and that piece is more or less on the money
― yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Friday, 3 June 2016 17:59 (eight years ago) link
yes it really engages with the album and has interesting things to say about generational displacement
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:01 (eight years ago) link
He engages with the album by saying it's a chore to listen to in 2016, which it is
― yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:01 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, but it's also like if RS or somesuch published a piece in 1969 along the lines of "Count Basie?! Whadda cornball! His trumpets sound like ducks!"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:03 (eight years ago) link
i hear you scott but it's MTV News... and we heard it first.
― De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:04 (eight years ago) link
it is absolutely more of a chore than views, i think we're saying the same thing. see you at loud yoga
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:04 (eight years ago) link
counterpoint to your counterpoint: i'm listening to it now and 3 feet high and rising sounds fucking fresh in the new millennium
― De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:05 (eight years ago) link
prince paul rules, next gen media drools
― De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:06 (eight years ago) link
wow i can't believe this young person likes young people music and not old fogey music
― ejemplo (crüt), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:06 (eight years ago) link
The J0rdan S. listening club
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:07 (eight years ago) link
still waiting on his Spawn OST liveblog :(
― ejemplo (crüt), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:09 (eight years ago) link
it is absolutely more of a chore than views,
wait what?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:10 (eight years ago) link
he should really take my six-week course in generational disingenuous music writing is what he should do. a hundred bucks a week and the first week is free!
― scott seward, Friday, 3 June 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link
TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE IT OFF TAKE IT OFF
― De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:12 (eight years ago) link
*winks*
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:12 (eight years ago) link
first lesson is free right here: pretend like you've never even HEARD of de la soul! and duh make fun of their names.
the rest you'll have to pay for.
― scott seward, Friday, 3 June 2016 18:13 (eight years ago) link
lol david turner gets so much shit itt
― dyl, Friday, 3 June 2016 18:13 (eight years ago) link
atc's "all around the world" is a classic tho
― dyl, Friday, 3 June 2016 18:15 (eight years ago) link
Hey everyone, don't ignore this one either. Tim Sommer defends Mike Love's honor.
http://observer.com/2016/06/for-the-love-of-mike-love-its-time-to-destroy-the-legend-of-brian-wilson/
I barely give a fuck who Mike Love has his picture taken with, or what political candidates he supports, or how he may stumble in public speeches; he is a gentle and kind man whose heart is in the right damn place, and he supports many worthwhile causes related to the environment, conservation, and spiritual enlightenment. Have any of you ever met Ric Ocasek or Todd Rundgren, or even, for that matter, the great Lou Reed? Have you ever talked to a waitress or stewardess who had to deal with Paul Simon?I have met a pile of so-called pop stars, and in terms of being a decent man with a decent heart, Mike Love is pretty goddamn high on the “good guy” list. Most of you just hate him because he’s in a band called the Beach Boys without Brian Wilson. You think that the fact that he keeps the Beach Boys going is somehow denigrating of or defiant of the great achievements of that band, but it’s just the opposite; Mike Love has kept the Beach Boys, a vital American institution, alive and working in the face of great odds and even greater derision.Go see the current touring version of the Beach Boys.
I have met a pile of so-called pop stars, and in terms of being a decent man with a decent heart, Mike Love is pretty goddamn high on the “good guy” list. Most of you just hate him because he’s in a band called the Beach Boys without Brian Wilson. You think that the fact that he keeps the Beach Boys going is somehow denigrating of or defiant of the great achievements of that band, but it’s just the opposite; Mike Love has kept the Beach Boys, a vital American institution, alive and working in the face of great odds and even greater derision.
Go see the current touring version of the Beach Boys.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 June 2016 18:15 (eight years ago) link
not to taste-shame but i am not much older than the author and i can think of few lighter, more enjoyable listens than 3 feet high. i know rap has mutated way away from the space this record occupies but i think it deserves a way less disingenuous and distracted approach, especially from someone who like...writes criticism, and who already likes tribe?????
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:16 (eight years ago) link
ofc i blame the editors as much if not more
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:18 (eight years ago) link
otoh I've heard more than once from students who don't get "old school rap."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:19 (eight years ago) link
who was it that shared the anecdote about students cracking up at "Fuck Tha Police"??
― ejemplo (crüt), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link
hey there were plenty of people in the late 80's who couldn't listen to any pre-1986 rap. it was dinosaur music.
― scott seward, Friday, 3 June 2016 18:22 (eight years ago) link
i mean took me forever to wrap my head about enter the wu tang in college but i did and i managed to never write a piece about it
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:22 (eight years ago) link
the editors are basically holding this guy up as a pinata for potential clicks, it's more than a bit shamefulhttps://twitter.com/MTVNews/status/738743779734228992^ he retweeted this!
― De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:22 (eight years ago) link
"Fuck Tha Police" is hilarious though
― queen elseq of ærendelle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:23 (eight years ago) link
spoonie gee would be like a young louis armstrong. de la would be like webster/blanton-era duke. the kids want ornette now. or maybe they want wynton, i dunno...
― scott seward, Friday, 3 June 2016 18:26 (eight years ago) link
― dyl, Friday, June 3, 2016 2:15 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
YES. Now That's What I Call Music Vol. 2
― flappy bird, Friday, 3 June 2016 18:37 (eight years ago) link
if this piece wanted to accomplish making people mad then it succeeded but if it was an earnest attempt to examine expectations we have of critics and fans and the way canons can change then..... i would say they went about it the wrong way
― J0rdan S., Friday, 3 June 2016 18:37 (eight years ago) link
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson
They get the Wu; it's pre-Chronic (LL, PE, Kool Moe Dee, Run-DMC) that for them is like reading Chaucer.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link
LOL-ing at Ned's link.
OH, WAIT. THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN. Floyd let go of Syd Barrett and his substantial ghost, they reassembled around their extraordinary core and they went on to make some of history’s most lasting music.
CITATION NEEDED
― a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link
... even pe? whoa
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link
Well daddy don't you know that things go in cycles, the way that Bobby Brown is just amping of which vertu engendred is the flour
― De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Friday, 3 June 2016 18:55 (eight years ago) link
i don't think anyone listens to public enemy anymore. maybe british people.
― scott seward, Friday, 3 June 2016 19:14 (eight years ago) link
what did you all think of the piece from however many years back where a new/young critic listened to public enemy and was like "meh i like drake better"
― dyl, Friday, 3 June 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link
the list of rap artists that not a lot of people listen to anymore is really really long though. when was the last time someone here listened to a notorious b.i.g. album? EXACTLY.
illmatic is 4ever though.
― scott seward, Friday, 3 June 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson)
yeah i mean pe basically sounds like "volunteers" these days.
― Sgt. Coldy Bimore (rushomancy), Friday, 3 June 2016 19:23 (eight years ago) link
literally just had an argument with a friend who's a year old than me bc he said "illmatic is boring. it was written forever" but also he's not a critic
idk i'm all for destabilizing canon and upsetting calcified orders but with actual care and context and fewer timestamps and vegan hot dogs. the headline also frames dude as a critic so he's not like...a student, or just a contemporary audience
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 3 June 2016 19:26 (eight years ago) link
anyway yeah this is content generated to make people angry
i like david but i dunno who that piece was for. this one just happened a few years ago!
http://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2012/07/05/156327372/youve-never-heard-public-enemys-it-takes-a-nation-of-millions-to-hold-us-back
― some dude, Friday, 3 June 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link
I will say that I would rather read this piece than a fawning appreciation of a critically acclaimed album (or whatever) that the writer has clearly never heard but knows is good via received wisdom
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 3 June 2016 19:32 (eight years ago) link
i would rather not read either
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 3 June 2016 19:33 (eight years ago) link
also lol i immediately remembered that npr series
iirc it was extremely well received and runs to this day
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 3 June 2016 19:34 (eight years ago) link
What gets more clicks, offensively bad articles or good articles?
― Evan, Friday, 3 June 2016 19:36 (eight years ago) link
i just can't imagine when i was his age writing like this about an album from the early '80s as if it was an ancient artifact i couldn't understand. i was devouring the catalogs of a lot of '70s acts by then. how do you write about music professionally with a snooty attitude towards the past!?
― some dude, Friday, 3 June 2016 19:36 (eight years ago) link
I dunno, I find the use of sampling far more creative on 3 Feet High... compared to many so-called "nu-school" rap/hip-hop albums. I generally find the productions on old school rap records more charming - less slick, more raw, and as a result, more exciting.
― Turrican, Friday, 3 June 2016 19:50 (eight years ago) link