Stone Roses - Stone Roses: C/D?

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It's a bit much to ask of anyone.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:48 (eight years ago) link

it kind of just seems like you have a chip on your shoulder about this band

i do! they had a few years nearly three decades ago when they produced a one album and a handful of b-sides which were genuinely really good. in an ideal world, that should have been their legacy but instead they're crawling back 20 years after a disappointing second album with a massively diminished rhythm section, a guitarist who has forgotten everything he ever learned about restraint and taste, and a singer whose greatest contributions to music has turned out to be teaching liam gallagher to walk like a chimp.

Trump is dong (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link

Hear hear.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:01 (eight years ago) link

I'll still download the new one.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:02 (eight years ago) link

It'll be a 7 minute guitar solo, you know, not a rare groove thing.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:02 (eight years ago) link

i do! they had a few years nearly three decades ago when they produced a one album and a handful of b-sides which were genuinely really good. in an ideal world, that should have been their legacy but instead they're crawling back 20 years after a disappointing second album with a massively diminished rhythm section, a guitarist who has forgotten everything he ever learned about restraint and taste, and a singer whose greatest contributions to music has turned out to be teaching liam gallagher to walk like a chimp.

you left out insulting mani

Poliopolice, Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:08 (eight years ago) link

do you know what a rhythm section is

Trump is dong (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:09 (eight years ago) link

yeah, but i assumed you were just talking about how Reni's drumming is allegedly subpar now. I haven't heard anyone rip on Mani's bass playing specifically. Do you have a specific complaint about his bassery?

Poliopolice, Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link

Mani's great on those Primal Scream records

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link

He's not a miracle worker though.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:16 (eight years ago) link

http://louderthanwar.com/stone-roses-halifax-live-review/

i ready to believe there is still a chance ..

(just .. )

mark e, Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:17 (eight years ago) link

true.

I don't really understand the impulse to say people shouldn't make music anymore because they made some good music 20 years ago and shouldn't "tarnish their legacy" or whatever. musicians gotta play music, it's a thing they do.

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:18 (eight years ago) link

Good that they got someone who is in no way a Stone Roses fan to review the gig.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:19 (eight years ago) link

Browns vocals are too-often criticised by those who don’t get the reality of Madchester revivalism

the unbearable jimmy smits (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:22 (eight years ago) link

dear lord

STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link

I wouldn't write a review that breathlessly orgasmic about sex, let alone a concert

STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link

@djp : harsh.
the reviewer was clearly overcome with the experience.
i totally understand that emotional excess re a gig.
in fact i would love to feel that rush again.

feel bad for posting the link now.

mark e, Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:30 (eight years ago) link

Oh no, I enjoyed reading it!

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link

I... did not.

STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:46 (eight years ago) link

i read that in Tommy Wiseau's voice.

Poliopolice, Thursday, 9 June 2016 21:21 (eight years ago) link

...and it's out!

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:04 (eight years ago) link

It's very Love Spreads.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:08 (eight years ago) link

Right, let's give this rubbish a listen...

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:09 (eight years ago) link

not available over here yet :(

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:12 (eight years ago) link

It needs less John Squire and the chorus gets a bit annoying after the 10th time but it is an improvement over All For One.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:12 (eight years ago) link

It's so Love Spreads we were sitting here singing the lyrics to Love Spreads over the top of it.

It's better than the last one.

ailsa, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:13 (eight years ago) link

It is like Love Spreads but even more like Breaking Into Heaven.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:13 (eight years ago) link

ah here it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCk34IVVgcc&app=desktop

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:14 (eight years ago) link

much better, yeah. all for one wore off after a few days for me

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:17 (eight years ago) link

feelin this one

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:18 (eight years ago) link

It's nothing like 'Love Spreads', IMO, more like a less excessive 'Breaking Into Heaven'

Anyway, after being sorely disappointed with 'All For One', I liked this one - probably because it sounds like The Stone Roses and doesn't sound like a Seahorses cast-off.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:18 (eight years ago) link

makes me realize how much I miss good guitarists

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:20 (eight years ago) link

I saw people saying how they were relieved how they haven't repeated the formula of the first album but how do they feel about them repeating the formula of The Second Coming as that's what they've done here.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:20 (eight years ago) link

breaking into heaven is a good call. I loved the second coming so im all for that kinda sound mixed with fools gold.

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:21 (eight years ago) link

love the guitar sound on this song too (the best thing about all for one) but the rhythm section im feeling a LOT more on this one.

Unsurprisingly i love it when the roses do funky

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:22 (eight years ago) link

I love the Second Coming

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:22 (eight years ago) link

It sounds like a halfway house between the post-S/T groove stuff and Second Coming's Zeppelinisms. There's much less guitar wankery here.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:23 (eight years ago) link

yeah this feels more restrained than Breaking Into Heaven for ex., but there's a lot of little details in the guitars

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:24 (eight years ago) link

listening now and picturing loads of bucket hats on their way to the bar/bogs

PaulTMA, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:25 (eight years ago) link

Brown's voice sounds better on this track than on any track of Second Coming, too!

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:26 (eight years ago) link

(x-post to Shakey)

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:26 (eight years ago) link

will need a few listens to judge but im not sure how it works as an actual single might be more of a good album track?

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:29 (eight years ago) link

Brown's voice sounds better on this track than on any track of Second Coming, too!

Technology has come on leaps and bounds since whenever that was.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:32 (eight years ago) link

It has a kind of "back half of side 2" vibe to it, yeah, but this has at least got me feeling optimistic for the album.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:34 (eight years ago) link

xpost Yeah, it's interesting that I've seen so many people proclaim them as the return of real music to save us from all this manufactured pop rubbish (not on here obviously), but his voice will have been auto-tuned as much as any pop band, if not more.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:35 (eight years ago) link

I'm hoping for more of the groove/funk oriented stuff on the LP. I'm guessing Shakey and Cosmic Slop are too.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:42 (eight years ago) link

it's a thing they're good at, but I like all their sides tbh. for ex. my favorite thing on Second Coming is probably "Your Star Will Shine"

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:46 (eight years ago) link

the only songs i dont care for on the second coming are the 2 shitty ballads in the middle of it

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:51 (eight years ago) link

i wonder if there will be a 3rd single before the album that is more like the debut album? that would ensure great sales i reckon.
Remember a lot the 1st album fans only liked ten storey love song as it was 60s pop not funk or led zep/hendrix/funkadelic rock

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:53 (eight years ago) link

for all the love fools gold gets im pretty damn sure an album like that instead of what the second coming was wouldve still went down like a lead balloon with some of the 1st stone roses album lovers I know.

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 9 June 2016 23:56 (eight years ago) link


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