it is depressing and sad to read the twitter replies on the L.A. Weekly Music account. somehow this piece and the backlash was picked up by the gamer gate crowd, and there are some vile opinions on there from some vile shitstains.
― nomar, Sunday, 19 June 2016 01:09 (seven years ago) link
oh god m1l0 picked it up. that dude...
― maura, Sunday, 19 June 2016 01:12 (seven years ago) link
Tavana's piece did cross the line. It was offensive, and on behalf of him and L.A. Weekly, I apologize for it.
I am not here to make excuses; instead, I will say that, in this line of work, we make judgment calls on what to say and how to say it all the time, and sometimes we get it wrong. This time, Tavana and I got it wrong.
struggling to see how this is a "non-apology" rather than an just an apology
― soref, Sunday, 19 June 2016 01:21 (seven years ago) link
xp
ugh xxpost
― nomar, Sunday, 19 June 2016 01:58 (seven years ago) link
I will never read this terrible article but the controversy reminded me of sky ferreira. her most recent album is like a treasure trove of rad power pop
― Treeship, Sunday, 19 June 2016 03:01 (seven years ago) link
"Nobody asked me if i was ok" might be my favorite. I suspect a bunch of ppl think of it as a secret personal anthem - something to listen to when you reminisce over old grudges
― Treeship, Sunday, 19 June 2016 03:05 (seven years ago) link
yeah Night Time, My Time is amazing. Can't wait for the next one.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 19 June 2016 03:15 (seven years ago) link
Yeah. It was annoying to me at the time that the album was overshadowed by discussions of the cover art, which in any case I thought people misinterpreted. There was a lot to say about that collection of songs: the record struck an interesting balance between engaging/foiling audience expectations and just being its own thing, which is tough thing to pull off in a highly anticipated debut album that was pushed back a bunch of times. I hope the writer of the LA weekly piece chokes on a pretzel. Not lethally, but enough to give him a good scare and maybe embarass him a little.
― Treeship, Sunday, 19 June 2016 03:43 (seven years ago) link
"lost in my bedroom" is of course one of the great songs of the decade bc of the understated vocals.
― Treeship, Sunday, 19 June 2016 03:55 (seven years ago) link
Fwiw the tweet is refreshingly NOT the typical non apology
Our critics are right and we were wrong. The Sky Ferreira piece was offensive and sexist. We're sorry. https://t.co/aWXMyD5mR1
― Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 19 June 2016 13:18 (seven years ago) link
What of Mr Tavana, is he even angrier (and nerdier) now?
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 June 2016 13:46 (seven years ago) link
the Sasha Grey piece he wrote was also crummy but I guess he successfully cloaked his gross misogyny.
― maura, Sunday, 19 June 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link
Well, she's got smaller tits than Ferreira, so maybe he wasn't as committed to the assignment.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 19 June 2016 14:12 (seven years ago) link
lol boom!
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 June 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link
coincidentally been listening to night time, my time a lot the past couple weeks; treeship otm re "nobody asked me" but i also go kind of embarrassingly crazy for "omanko".
maura nobly didn't link the sasha grey piece but i googled it anyway, indefensibly yielding a click, then tapped out after a single paragraph of aspiring magazine prose about what she was wearing when she arrived at the restaurant.
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 19 June 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link
What about how "heavy metal heart" reuses and transforms the main riff of "you're not the one," the track righy before it
― Treeship, Sunday, 19 June 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link
Tbh the kind of meta-cultural commentary that piece was going for -- trying to "place things" or make claims about what something as large as pop music "needs today," as if cultural is just a self-correcting machine that moves in an eternal circle -- is annoying in itself, apart from the egregious sexism. As a lens it's incapable of registering anything that actually makes music enjoyable or meaningful.
― Treeship, Sunday, 19 June 2016 16:18 (seven years ago) link
http://decibelmagazine.com/blog/2016/6/20/does-the-underground-metal-scene-really-have-a-sjw-problem
Some really awful writing here and fuck Decibel for promoting this bullshit. Subscription cancelled.
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 20 June 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link
"self-described" "self-proclaimed" SJWs.
― evol j, Monday, 20 June 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link
Indeed.
― Cosmic Slop, Monday, 20 June 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link
hahahahahaha
― queen elseq of ærendelle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 June 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link
"Extreme metal is art. It is dangerous art and part of its very appeal is indeed that of peril and endangerment. In fact, at many shows, one might come face to face with an artist or two (or fan for that matter) who has spent significant in time in prison for offenses that range from assault to arson to murder. That is the reality of extreme metal."
http://67.media.tumblr.com/34e283f1aaf299a398db1fffa5f16c06/tumblr_nusitr4Rho1rocshso1_500.jpg
― scott seward, Monday, 20 June 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link
gut-wrenchingly impactful
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Monday, 20 June 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link
^^^ me if i don't drink my psyllium seed husks for a few days
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Monday, 20 June 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link
lol
― riverine (map), Monday, 20 June 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link
ahahahaha christ
― imago, Monday, 20 June 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link
"At an extreme metal show you may stand next to someone who has just played Fallout 4 for 23 straight hours with only minimal breaks for food or water. This is the dangerous reality of the art."
― scott seward, Monday, 20 June 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link
extreme hydration
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Monday, 20 June 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link
I was kinda shocked to learn that this guy (who's barely capable of writing a sentence in English) actually is a professor. I assumed he made that part up, like when dudes on right-wing message boards claim to be Navy SEALs.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 20 June 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link
have you read the prose of tenured faculty?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 June 2016 22:08 (seven years ago) link
Nope; I barely graduated high school and only did three semesters of community college.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 20 June 2016 22:16 (seven years ago) link
I was kinda shocked to learn that this guy (who's barely capable of writing a sentence in English) actually is a professor.
yeah, that was my only reaction, though i was more depressed than shocked. shitty writing + shallow thinking + zero research = college professor teaching a course called "evil, death and dystopia".
― oculus lump (contenderizer), Monday, 20 June 2016 22:43 (seven years ago) link
http://www.fandm.edu/jeffrey-podoshen
― scott seward, Monday, 20 June 2016 22:48 (seven years ago) link
hot topic:
Podoshen, Jeffrey S. (2009), “Distressing Events and Future Purchase Decisions: Jewish Consumers and the Holocaust,” Journal of Consumer Marketing, 26 (4): 263-276.
― scott seward, Monday, 20 June 2016 22:49 (seven years ago) link
dark tourism a pretty catchy term:
Podoshen, Jeffrey S. (2016), “Trajectories in Holocaust Tourism,” Journal of Heritage Tourism (in press).
Podoshen, Jeffrey S., Vivek Venkatesh, Jason Wallin, Susan Andrzejewski and Zheng Jin (2015), “Dystopian Dark Tourism: An Exploratory Examination,” Tourism Management, 51 (December), 316-328.
Podoshen, Jeffrey S., Susan Andrzejewski, Vivek Venkatesh and Jason Wallin (2015), “New Approaches to Dark Tourism Inquiry: A Response to Isaac,” Tourism Management, 51 (December), 331-334.
― scott seward, Monday, 20 June 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link
SRO:
BOS 200 - Strategies for Organizing
BOS 341 - Marketing
BOS 480 - Issues Facing Organizations in the 21st Century
Students Please Note: I use the system-generated waitlist for admission into all of my classes after intial registration has ended. I understand that waitlists for my classes are extensive and I wish I could accomodate all interested students in my classes. Unfortunately, this is not possible. Students wishing to find a space in my classes should add themselves to the waitlist in Banner. Banner will automatically add students on the waitlist if/when space becomes available.
― scott seward, Monday, 20 June 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link
nothing says dangerous auth like business school
― riverine (map), Monday, 20 June 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link
This article examines materialism, conspicuous consumption, race, and hip-hop subculture. Our study used survey data from over 1,200 individuals. Results show that African Americans scored higher in materialism and conspicuous consumption compared to non-African Americans. Additionally, those who prefer hip-hop music scored higher in materialism and conspicuous consumption than those who preferred to listen to music in other genres. Implications and historical context are discussed.
sounds like high-quality scholarship i am willing to listen to whatever this guy has to say about sjws
― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Monday, 20 June 2016 23:16 (seven years ago) link
Cant get over Decibel actually publishing that article
― Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 13:45 (seven years ago) link
sky ferreira went off on the L.A. Weekly piece
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7415477/sky-ferreira-response-la-weekly-sexist-article-madonna
― nomar, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link
metalsucks went off on the decibel piece
http://www.metalsucks.net/2016/06/21/decibels-guest-column-sjws-destroying-extreme-music-disagree/
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 20:06 (seven years ago) link
Nice x2! Some decent writing came from poor writing
― niels, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link
I mean the former is an aggregation of tweets
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link
But what tweets
― niels, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link
More replieshttp://www.metalinsider.net/columns/headbangers-brawl/headbangers-brawl-is-there-really-an-sjw-problem-in-extreme-music
― Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 23:00 (seven years ago) link
I like how they let the dumbest person go first and let Bram bat cleanup.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 23:09 (seven years ago) link
bram's batting third. nick ("Corpsegrinder is a World of Warcraft-playing dork who spends one hour a day growling songs about murder") is in the cleanup spot.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 23:27 (seven years ago) link
(apologies, but as your fact checking cuz, i do feel kind of obligated)
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 23:28 (seven years ago) link
What's craziest about that metal SJW piece is the implication that murder and arson are normal and natural, and part of the "appeal" of extreme metal. That might be true for some people, but it doesn't exactly amount to a convincing case against social justice in metal.
― jmm, Saturday, 25 June 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link