Your music's shite it keeps me Polling all night: OASIS (ILM artist poll 78) --- Voting open until Sunday August 21, 2016

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might as well embed it, it rocks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WC4aY3Hb0Y

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 00:28 (seven years ago) link

I'm really fond of 'Angel Child', myself... which is actually one of the Mustique demos!

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 00:44 (seven years ago) link

i listened to heathen chemistry today and while it's better than standing it's still super dull

which is why I guess the opening few tracks of dont believe the truth actually sound legit awesome. "turn up the sun" is andy bell's faceless oasis rocker but it has such a pretty outro, "mucky fingers" is noel doing a velvets/dylan pastiche and he kind of sounds like he's having a blast not writing a typical noel oasis song, and I completely forgot that I actually like "lyla"

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 06:29 (seven years ago) link

Its a halfway decent album, just to prove it can happen.

Mark G, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 06:32 (seven years ago) link

wow zak starkey really kicked this band in the ass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUSiclkjjtw

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 13:28 (seven years ago) link

Golden Brown, texture like sun...

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 13:35 (seven years ago) link

Don't Believe The Truth was an improvement on the previous two, but still nowhere up there with the Creation-era stuff. I've never liked 'Turn Up The Sun', 'Keep The Dream Alive', 'A Bell Will Ring', 'The Meaning of Soul', 'Mucky Fingers' or even 'Lyla'...

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 13:40 (seven years ago) link

lol I love "lyla" so much rn

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 13:42 (seven years ago) link

I remember hearing it when it came out and it was like "oh, that melody again..."

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 13:44 (seven years ago) link

the bonus track from don't believe the truth is AWESOME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lBp5bExsEE

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link

Cool sound to that! Not at all what I expect from Oasis. Kinda, idk, Velvets-y? Would prefer it with a full vocal - it's not quite interesting enough to keep me hanging on as that riff chugs along, but it's a cool direction for them to take.

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link

It makes me wanna sing Pulp's 'I'm a Man' over the top of it.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link

dig out your soul i think suggests that they were about to become an interesting band again, in a different way from their creation records, but then ofc noel left

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link

First listen to Heathen Chemistry. Always dug "The Hindu Times," still do, though after all that time spent in BHN-land I'm kinda trained to notice the exact moment when a song presses its luck one too many times on another go-round of the chorus. But at least it's got some oomph to it. In general the sound of this record feels like a nice correction from the overstuffed BHN and the basically muted and studio-based SOTSOG - they sound like a band again, even if Liam's vocals feel sorta pasted-in on e.g. "Hung in a Bad Place." The songs are back to reasonable lengths but still have things going on in them in terms of arrangement/performance; they're not just trusting the guitar solos to carry them. "Better Man," smartly, tries to close things not with an epic statement but a dirty rocker: heads up folks, this is an Oasis ready to play smokey, dangerous basement clubs (not that that will ever happen again). (This is one of several things about this record that reminds me in a weird way of R.E.M.'s later, better Accelerate.) That said, it's more of an attitude than a song - note the reliance on "All right now, yeah yeah" segments and the repetition of the title line while the band just kinda plugs away. Why they bothered with the hidden track I can't guess - it just cancels out the choice to end with "Better Man" and instead goes with a plodding jam that if it were in the middle of the album would be an obvious slab of momentum-killing filler.

Unfortunately the writing's not super consistent; Noel still hasn't refilled his bag of hooks after the flood of '94-'96. "Stop Crying Your Heart Out" is very weak in this sense - just riding the chorus over and over, and the rest is sorta by-the-numbers - but at least it sounds great. A passable answer to Coldplay and Travis. The Kula-Shakery psych pastiche is still lurking in there, particularly strong on "(Probably) All in the Mind," but it's handled with those mid-period Beatles gloves again (I mean, this is basically "Rain," right?), which makes it feel much more natural a fit for the band. "She Is Love" is in the same boat, but a pleasant surprise - an old-school urgently-strummed Noel tune with some nice coloring from the added instruments and production touches. Spritely. "Born On A Different Cloud" goes instead for Imagine (I mean, this is basically "How Do You Sleep," right?) with the plodding piano and vague bitterness (and then fake George Harrison for the solo!). Really muddled lyrics though - the first track that really wears by the time it's over.

Overall the record is a kind of thing I don't really consume anymore - midtempo, middle-of-the-road guitar rock, another platter of workaday songs for the drive home and larded up with Sixties flavor 'cause that's when rawk was great, mannn. I know it has a really low reputation with the fans, and I guess it doesn't really add much to the Oasis canon, but it goes by pleasantly and doesn't overstay its welcome. Even stuff like "A Quick Peep" which would feel like the twentieth pointless cherry added to Be Here Now here feels just kinda like Noel and company having fun playing their instruments while waiting for Liam to show up. But if this had come out in 2000 instead of SOTSOG I would have given it enough spins to really get attached to some of these tracks.

Realized yesterday while scrubbing the shower that my relationship with Oasis is really similar to my relationship with the Foo Fighters - came in through the second album, got into the first (later deciding it was the best and the only real start-to-finish keeper), sadly got off the train right around the third, partly because of the aforemntioned college/indie-rock discovery... and then they meanwhile kept putting out albums, occasionally surprising me with an MOR single that sounded good to my ears, but never taking me to the point of actually buying a new album by them. They both went pretty quickly from a sort of scrappy, urgent creative spark to feeling like huge institutional dinosaurs, one foot already in the Hall of Fame and with nothing much to say. Doesn't mean the albums from that period are necessarily shitty though.

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link

"the turning and "shock of the lightning" sound so cool, which isn't something i thought them capable of at this point in their discography

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link

oooh i really like that "part of the queue" song. nice find, brad. yeah insane drumming

Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link

Foo Fighters comparison is v apt - similar cultural stance, loads of hookless songs evoking rock's "heyday" but with modern sonic trappings and none of the wit or adventurousness

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 9 August 2016 19:49 (seven years ago) link

OK im listening to "Dont Believe the Truth" now. My Oasis-mad friend reckons its their best album post-BHN

Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link

welp, i'm done. that was fun! gonna send in my ballot

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link

xpost:

It's the best of the post-1998 records, yeah, but it's still only half a good album.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Tuesday, 9 August 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link

we are up to double digits in ballots. i will start to send out confirmation emails starting tomorrow night after work.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 01:11 (seven years ago) link

not getting a lot of Singles/EP's ballots and of the ones i'm getting are mostly Top 5. Top 10 was too much but i'm going through my collection.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 01:42 (seven years ago) link

It's the 20th anniversary of Oasis playing Knebworth today!

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link

Happy 20th to the last day I ever gave a shit about Oasis

Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 23:00 (seven years ago) link

haha, wrong thead

Bee OK, Thursday, 11 August 2016 01:02 (seven years ago) link

and wrong link

Bee OK, Thursday, 11 August 2016 01:03 (seven years ago) link

anyways. i never had the need to buy The Masterplan as i was buying the singles at the time. so now i;m going through all those singles and saying to myself, yep that one will make it ect. now i'm sort of wondering if all the ones i pick will also be on that album?

Bee OK, Thursday, 11 August 2016 01:06 (seven years ago) link

anyways, the best part about doing this poll is listening to their b-sides again. they are, for the most part, great.

Bee OK, Thursday, 11 August 2016 01:07 (seven years ago) link

never really listened to them much before beyond the big singles but I'm a bit surprised to find just how much better Definitely Maybe is than Morning Glory

ufo, Thursday, 11 August 2016 02:57 (seven years ago) link

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i'm asking for help with images. i would like someone to take over and do the images for the roll out of this poll. your vision, you can use Oasis or something else, if interested please email me at the above Oasis box.

thanks!

Bee OK, Friday, 12 August 2016 01:36 (seven years ago) link

Moka punched up a pretty dope-looking template here - ILM Ballot Polls for 2014 and beyond -- order, timing, "I would have voted if I'd known about it," etc Font is definitely right, anyway.

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Friday, 12 August 2016 01:52 (seven years ago) link

that is a good Oasis image. Moka is probably out though as she is having computer issues.

Bee OK, Friday, 12 August 2016 02:10 (seven years ago) link

bump--------HELP needed.

Bee OK, Friday, 12 August 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link

bumpy, bump, bump. was really hoping to get someone today.

Bee OK, Friday, 12 August 2016 22:01 (seven years ago) link

Weekend, dude.

Mark G, Friday, 12 August 2016 22:02 (seven years ago) link

be patient, ok i get it.

Bee OK, Friday, 12 August 2016 22:10 (seven years ago) link

Can I write in the following?

It's Better People
Acquiesce
Supersonic
Roll with it

calstars, Friday, 12 August 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link

all you need is one more song and then email the address above.

Bee OK, Friday, 12 August 2016 23:39 (seven years ago) link

i can't do this in the upcoming week because of work issues, so i'm going to extend voting for one more week. countdown will start that week.

Bee OK, Saturday, 13 August 2016 18:45 (seven years ago) link

i still think that 'dig out your soul' is a cracking album.
far better than any of their other post BHN albums.
the extra stuff that came in the boxset was wonderful stuff.
(mainly down to the production by richard fearless)
oh, and the 20 minute FSOL/AA remix of Falling Down was the best thing they had done in years.

mark e, Saturday, 13 August 2016 19:11 (seven years ago) link

^^^^^^

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 13 August 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link

'Bag It Up', 'The Turning', 'The Shock of the Lightning', 'I'm Outta Time' and 'Falling Down' are all good, I suppose... but '(Get Off Your) High Horse Lady', 'To Be Where There's Life', 'The Nature of Reality' and 'Soldier On' are just... eurgh.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 13 August 2016 20:25 (seven years ago) link

i genuinely like "(get off your) high horse .. "

the opening section drifting into the full band groove i find very enjoyable.

mark e, Saturday, 13 August 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link

and despite all the cliches, i love the sitar excess and big bass groove of 'to where theres life' ..

mark e, Saturday, 13 August 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link

and 'the nature of reality' is just a full on glam stomp ..
nothing different for them i know, but damn, its a big fuck off stomp of a track.

mark e, Saturday, 13 August 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

and as for 'soldier on' ..
well, as final send off, i aint complaining..
i agree it's not anything special, but it's a solid oasis track.

summary : their final album is up with their best in my world.

mark e, Saturday, 13 August 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link

and despite all the cliches, i love the sitar excess and big bass groove of 'to where theres life' ..

― mark e, Saturday, August 13, 2016 8:32 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's not the cliches that bother me, really, it's more that the song itself isn't very good. Then again, I feel pretty much the same about every song that Gem Archer wrote for Oasis.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 13 August 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link

well, given i still listen to the heavy stereo album ..

mark e, Saturday, 13 August 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link

hope the extended time can bring in some more ballots.

Bee OK, Saturday, 13 August 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link


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