its completely playing it safe & doesn't sound substantially different from the last 30 gucci tapes aside from a few references to his changing circumstances. per usual folks are responding to peer interest & hype & not the actual music
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 01:32 (eight years ago) link
i like the quality of the mixing and mastering but it cldve been cool if they took some more time writing the songs
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 23:36 (eight years ago) link
i know thats not the gucci way but hes supposed to be changing his ways and id be curious to hear his take on a minutely crafted album
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 23:37 (eight years ago) link
some of the songs are good but what if they all were idk just spitballing
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 23:41 (eight years ago) link
exactly my take also
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 23:53 (eight years ago) link
like i don't think the process of A&R is necessarily antithetical to what makes Gucci great, it just has been historically bc they didn't really get what he was doing
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 23:54 (eight years ago) link
Is this not a minutely crafted album?
No snark, just curious.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 23:56 (eight years ago) link
he recorded it in six days
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 23:59 (eight years ago) link
otm this whole thing is just ok.
― Spottie, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 00:02 (eight years ago) link
I'm not defending this album as a masterpiece, but the mix and arrangements sound polished to my ears idk
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 00:03 (eight years ago) link
sounds better than your run of the mill mixtape thats true
― Spottie, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 00:05 (eight years ago) link
it is well engineered but i think we're looking from more of a songcraft perspective
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 00:14 (eight years ago) link
ya the engineering is great but itd be cool if the songs were a lil more rigorous to match
― lag∞n, Thursday, 18 August 2016 16:32 (eight years ago) link
mike will/zaytoven et al seems like spent more time on it than gucci did
― lag∞n, Thursday, 18 August 2016 16:33 (eight years ago) link
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, August 16, 2016 6:59 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
all kinds of canonical masterpieces were recorded in less than 6 days
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 August 2016 20:54 (eight years ago) link
Guccilluminati: The 6 Day Theory
― Best Beloved Trump-Pence (some dude), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 00:27 (eight years ago) link
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, August 23, 2016 3:54 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Of course including some of gucci's own tapes. That wasn't the question tho it was over whether or not this album sounds "minutely crafted" lol
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 00:51 (eight years ago) link
"first day out" gives me chills tbh
― esempiu (crüt), Wednesday, 24 August 2016 00:52 (eight years ago) link
this album is just verses he wrote in prison rapped over random instrumentals, right? surely that has more to do with the product than the time it actually took to record
― Jacques_Lamure, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 01:57 (eight years ago) link
Sigh. I'm just worried about him. I've been rooting for dude for so long now but I can't see how he's ever coming back from this.
― longneck, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 12:56 (three years ago) Permalink
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 13 October 2016 09:51 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, man. I'm thrilled about his reinvention. Could not have predicted it. And the new songs keep getting better - as in he's sounding more and more at home on them? I'm not expecting a classic but Woptober should be good.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 13 October 2016 10:09 (eight years ago) link
I think a lot of the recent tracks have been only OK, but even on the mediocre he sounds really engaged again. It's really great to hear
This is very fun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr2fObAF93Q
― Evan R, Thursday, 13 October 2016 14:41 (eight years ago) link
gucci biting my high school look
― lag∞n, Thursday, 13 October 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link
i don't think gucci had a "reinvention" so much as a combined prison time-out & a reappraisal
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 13 October 2016 21:51 (eight years ago) link
Woptober is really good
― Evan R, Friday, 14 October 2016 18:04 (eight years ago) link
It is. And whoile I do see deej's point I'll still go with reinvention. The Gucci who came out of jail is a lot more digestible than the guy who went in was. He sounds and acts as if he got a second shot at life.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 14 October 2016 18:15 (eight years ago) link
*while
https://twitter.com/samsanders/status/786991798589747200
lolz
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Friday, 14 October 2016 23:22 (eight years ago) link
Hey, it's Goji Mane!
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Friday, 14 October 2016 23:36 (eight years ago) link
omg gucci tiny desk concert gtfooh
― yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Saturday, 15 October 2016 03:47 (eight years ago) link
His hooks are still lacking a bit on Woptober but his rapping is great, present and symbiotic with the beats, plus his lyrics are better than they've been in a good while afaict.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 15 October 2016 13:36 (eight years ago) link
Also, Out The Zoo might well be my favorite rap song this year.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 15 October 2016 13:50 (eight years ago) link
You COULD argue that this says something about the rest of 2016 rap (and you'd be right), but it also sounds like a top shelf Gucci song, so...
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 15 October 2016 14:04 (eight years ago) link
this stuff all seems competent but its not really for me any more
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 16 October 2016 00:09 (eight years ago) link
the "out the zoo" beat is pretty sick but the rapping doesn't do anything for me
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 16 October 2016 01:05 (eight years ago) link
his stuff all seems competent but its not really for me any more
How come?
― Evan R, Sunday, 16 October 2016 02:10 (eight years ago) link
other people like him now
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Sunday, 16 October 2016 06:22 (eight years ago) link
People have always liked him cornballs in the press are just super late
I'd say it's a mix of stiffer rap style and boilerplate lyrics and just a general sensation that he's not really pushing himself
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 16 October 2016 06:36 (eight years ago) link
= the wrong people like him now. I get that you prefer the 07-09 run, I do too. But the boilerplate lyrics accusation has been around forever, and given that he has been out for just a few months and have dropped two albums in that time, and that he sounds a lot more at home and confident and is clearly trying (and generally succeeding at) saying something about who and where he is now, speaking about his addiction and so on, I'd say he may well be pushing himself. Maybe he'll slip back into some kind of lazy default mode shortly but at the moment he's definitely trying to redefine himself. You don't have to like the direction he's going in though.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 17 October 2016 06:44 (eight years ago) link
it's not what you say, it's how you say it
I agree with deej, this stuff is average as fuck, it isn't even close to his best 2011 or 2012 tracks.
― ANU (sisilafami), Monday, 17 October 2016 11:37 (eight years ago) link
But the boilerplate lyrics accusation has been around forever
yeah by people who didn't know what they were talking about lol
― J0rdan S., Monday, 17 October 2016 14:24 (eight years ago) link
i've quite liked some of his guest verses this year -- black beatles and vibin in this bih come to mind immediately -- but i agree with deej that his solo tracks have been pretty stiff
― J0rdan S., Monday, 17 October 2016 14:25 (eight years ago) link
"The wrong people like him" is a reliable sign sure I like to think of them as negative indicators
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 17 October 2016 15:56 (eight years ago) link
I can't even argue with that, lol. I still enjoy this album though.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 17 October 2016 16:39 (eight years ago) link
I think his verses are as good as they've been in years; it's the hooks that seem a little tired to me. Small quibble though. I'm just enjoying hearing him enjoy rapping again.
― Evan R, Monday, 17 October 2016 17:03 (eight years ago) link
I like his bit in "Black Beatles."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 October 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link
black beatles, step it up, champions, prolly, guwop home all p.good recent stuff
― ||||||||, Monday, 17 October 2016 21:51 (eight years ago) link
His voice just sounds like a different rapper to me now.
― Tim F, Monday, 17 October 2016 22:12 (eight years ago) link
That's mostly because he's sober, perhaps?
Anyway, falling out of love with someone is never pretty but it can't be helped I guess. Woptober is still one of my favorite albums this year and Everybody's Looking has its gems too.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 09:05 (eight years ago) link
i wouldn't go as far as 'favorite albums this year' but i gave woptober a good listen & its def an improvement over everybody's looking
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 18:42 (eight years ago) link