New album is awesome. Less consistent than the first but stronger overall imo. Their songwriting is so good. Their best books don't feel "borrowed" to me any more
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 13 August 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link
guess they can afford not to go the librarrurd
― r|t|c, Saturday, 13 August 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link
when u say borrowed in inverted commas i'm guessing u just mean the writing has greater complexity (= borrows more intricately) and so deepens their idiosyncracy? cos (ignoring the precocity/ghosting gossip obv) i don't think it's ever really felt like something not theirs or artificially overlaid
― r|t|c, Saturday, 13 August 2016 22:57 (seven years ago) link
Lol *hooks obv
Nah it's that the biggest hooks on album tracks (safe sex / pay checks and this could be us) both reminded me explicitly of songs by Ty Dolla and blackalicious (lol autocorrected to "blac malicious") respectively, to a degree that was distracting, regardless if they even were intentionally borrowed. (Unbearably A Boogie is recycling the blackalicious melody again)
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 14 August 2016 04:35 (seven years ago) link
those two were often used as arguments for the depth of their Pop bench beyond the singles--and they need that Pop bench bc despite obvious skill as lyricists they are fairly one-D as personalities (which is fine, they just love or die by pop's tools). This yes deepens their music in a way that hides influences but also there's just no record that uses found-hook-sound so blatantly like older ones to me
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 14 August 2016 04:40 (seven years ago) link
I liked the first Rae sremmurd a lot but felt little depth of attachment, via auteurist Magic I'm now coming around
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 14 August 2016 04:41 (seven years ago) link
that's interesting to me for historical white post-rap-college-nerd-white reasons. blackalicious, really?
― mh, Sunday, 14 August 2016 05:40 (seven years ago) link
'safe sex' and 'this could be us' are the definitive tracks from the album, with the best hooks? no
the other 9 tracks are full of auteurist magic, this exaggeratedly fatal "distraction" p much seems like u just feel more comfortable splaining them now they levelled up from sl1 enchanter to sl2 mage
― r|t|c, Sunday, 14 August 2016 09:42 (seven years ago) link
can't wait til some pfork nerd arrives to tell us which smiths song gift of dab and chief xtendo are interpolating on 'black beatles'
― r|t|c, Sunday, 14 August 2016 10:08 (seven years ago) link
Well that they leveled up is kind of my point
It's not like I was down on them on the record or something, I'm expressing my earlier reticence ex post facto
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 14 August 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link
Speaking of auteur magic I quite like this as Swae Lee's evil twin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6Cy-CsszhU
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 14 August 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link
oh good -- Sunday morning listening!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 August 2016 15:11 (seven years ago) link
Five tracks into number 2 and it's pretty flawless, so far. They aren't the hyperenergetic pixies that they were on the first Sremmlife but the darker tone suits them, they're still having a lot of fun and the beats still bang (Black Beatles goddamn).
If the second half can keep this momentum up, I can't imagine listening to anything else for the next month or so.
― you think Lou Bega gave up after Mambo Number One??? (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 August 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link
this album is incredible
― Evan R, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 16:30 (seven years ago) link
The fun stuff still bangs, the darker/somber stuff works and somehow these two have still never recorded a flat-out bad song
― Evan R, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link
Take It Or Leave It is basically a good version of White Iversons lol
― Spottie, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link
this album rules
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:40 (seven years ago) link
Black Beatles has so many little hooks, the ad-libs are perfection. listened to it like 3 times and have the whole thing m/l memorized
― Spottie, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link
been listening for three days. "Black Beatles" and "Real Chill" are my jams.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 19:07 (seven years ago) link
Whats the sample on BB? sounds super obvious and its on the tip of my brain but can't quite place it
― Spottie, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link
"I Am The Walrus," iirc
― you think Lou Bega gave up after Mambo Number One??? (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link
no way they paid for a beatles sample lol
― Spottie, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 22:08 (seven years ago) link
Yes, that was a joke.
The beat reminds a little bit of "Letter" from the Kodak Black album: https://youtu.be/bZbj4x6RzIU
― you think Lou Bega gave up after Mambo Number One??? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 00:30 (seven years ago) link
I can't understand ppl thinking the new one is a falloff
I can see some giving a slight edge to the first
i find the sound considerably more engaging throughout this
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 06:16 (seven years ago) link
This is not a response to this thread more the ppl who have decided this one isn't as good as the first as if it's some kind of verified truth
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 06:17 (seven years ago) link
I'm calling them about even for now
― Spottie, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 08:59 (seven years ago) link
"chinchilla hellafurry"
:)
― mark s, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 09:55 (seven years ago) link
as far as ATL sophomore albums given an iffy reception by a fickle audience, it's somewhere below BOATS II and above Triple F Life.
― Best Beloved Trump-Pence (some dude), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 13:11 (seven years ago) link
lol, that's otm
i purposely restrained myself from overdosing on 'look alive' when the video/single came out so that i could jam the hole album front to back without skipping... strategy payed off big time
― flopson, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link
Agree BOATS II was underrated but this blows that album out of the water
From my view the album seems pretty well received though? All I'm seeing is excitement over it; where are people dismissing it?
― Evan R, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 14:09 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, this is a cut above BOATS II - which was a very good album. This stuff though? They sound like they're forging their own genre.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 14:15 (seven years ago) link
love love love this album, zero disappointment at all
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:07 (seven years ago) link
they have such an impressive range in every direction
All I'm seeing is excitement over it; where are people dismissing it?
― Evan R, Wednesday, August 17, 2016 10:09 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
it's gonna sell like 500 copies
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link
was shocked to see last night that the last album went platinum
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link
i think that's basically all streams for the singles
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link
This stuff though? They sound like they're forging their own genre.
naw.
― esempiu (crüt), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:21 (seven years ago) link
you can draw a continuous line from atlanta rap as it existed a decade ago to where rae sremmurd are now
― esempiu (crüt), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link
yeaaaaah can't agree w that xp
― Spottie, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, August 17, 2016 9:15 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmao
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link
huh, judging by my Twitter feed (not a representative sample I know) people are really juiced over it. Haven't seen anybody claim they've fallen off.
Feels like they carried a lot of the excitement surrounding their debut over to this one and that's pretty impressive imo. They're not gonna do Fetty Wap numbers but it seems like they know their audience and are reaching them
― Evan R, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:33 (seven years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, August 17, 2016 12:13 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well prob more like 20k but its sales are gonna be bad yeah
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link
the question of whether its better than boats ii is kind of interesting (albeit pointless)
the first boats is a pretty bad album though outside a couple tracks. that the second boats seems better is in part bc of the wide variance in quality between the two
RS1 and RS2 are much much closer in quality. I will probably listen to the best songs on RS2 more than I listened to the best songs on BOATS II. They are both similar in that the singles undersold the albums although BOATS II even moreso (lol Feds Watching)
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link
feds watching is a great song
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link
"look alive" was a far more bizarre choice for a lead single
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 17 August 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link
watching grown adults discussing rae sremmurd like it was literature is to behold the end of art
― imago, Wednesday, August 17, 2016 1:31 PM
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:21 (seven years ago) link
Art needs to end once in a while.
And of course there are elements similar to a decade old ATL rap in what they do. Who wrote songs like Look Alive or Black Beatles even five years ago, though?
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link
i feel like they fit pretty comfortably in some kinda nexus of post 80s kanye & future & gucci & keef etc etc
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link
I'm Turrican up in yo hood
Actually I'm not gonna post here except to ask how yall deal with rae sremm's terribly progressive attitude to women
― imago, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link
yeah idk they're like a fabulous marriage of Descendants and Kool Keith. They get away with their snottiness and for the moment they don't sound anomic or evil. I don't get the sense that they're forcing themselves on unwilling victims like I do when I listen to The Weeknd and Kanye, who are worse because they include pliant points of views. But they can't keep it up forever and I can imagine hating them like I do The Weeknd and late Kanye.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, August 17, 2016
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link