Radiohead - A Moon Shaped Pool

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like I only like this record but still

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 August 2016 22:59 (seven years ago) link

it's absolutely an adult contemporary record, or "sophisti-pop", or whatever

y'all are talking nonsense. I would die for an adult contemporary radiohead record. this album sounds like art pop

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 August 2016 23:02 (seven years ago) link

it's closer to a late talk talk record than bryan ferry or phil collins

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 August 2016 23:04 (seven years ago) link

When I read your post Turrican, all I could think about is how much you love that latest Suede album. A lot of the things you describe about A Moon Shaped Pool could be applied to Night Thoughts for me.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 14 August 2016 23:13 (seven years ago) link

The songs mostly operate in the mid-tempo range and plod and meander from beginning to end and Brett Anderson does his high pitched "ooooooohs" a lot like we haven't heard it all a million fucking times before. Ed Buller's production too, gives the whole album that "once-aurally-exciting-16-years-ago-but-now-is-actually-quite-fucking-boring-learn-some-new-tricks-goddamn-it-you-cunt" Buller sheen that makes everything sound so flat and samey. The sound of a band with dick-all left to say and not particularly arsed about finding something to say, knowing that idiots will lap whatever they do up anyway.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 14 August 2016 23:16 (seven years ago) link

Night Thoughts doesn't have 'Tinker Tailor Soldier Sailor Needlessly Long Title' on it, a song that seriously ought to come free with a flask of coffee and a sleeping bag. With the Radiohead bear on it of course.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Sunday, 14 August 2016 23:18 (seven years ago) link

wtf what album are you listening to

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, August 14, 2016 10:59 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A Moon Shaped Pool, the ninth album by popular British combo Radiohead.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Sunday, 14 August 2016 23:20 (seven years ago) link

Godrich's production on this has more in common with the productions he did on Chaos and Creation in the Backyard and Travis' The Man Who than Kid A or OK Computer.

This is totally an adult contemporary record, albeit an adult contemporary record targeted at the Radiohead fans that are now approaching, or are, middle aged.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Sunday, 14 August 2016 23:25 (seven years ago) link

oh no radiohead isnt cool anymore?

adult contempo is an actual genre with an actual set of sonic features to distinguish it from other genres and...this is not adult contempo.

6 god none the richer (m bison), Sunday, 14 August 2016 23:28 (seven years ago) link

Godrich's production on this has more in common with the productions he did on Chaos and Creation in the Backyard and Travis' The Man Who than Kid A or OK Computer.

here are some other records this guy produced, for lamer bands or artists in lamer ages of their career

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 August 2016 23:33 (seven years ago) link

While it may not be a Bon Jovi or a Celine Dion record, it would definitely fit in snugly with a person's Coldplay or David Gray records. Acoustic, soft rock, piano ballads, songs about divorce. It has it all. It's Radiohead's Ghost Stories, or... ahahaha... their No Jacket Required!

Maybe Thom Yorke should go the whole hog and shave his head. Go for the "full Collins" ... but as crap as No Jacket Required is, at least Collins remembered to fucking emote on it.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Sunday, 14 August 2016 23:38 (seven years ago) link

it's closer to a late talk talk record than bryan ferry or phil collins

― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson)

it's close to neither. "adult contemporary" doesn't have to sound like that song from "robin hood: prince of thieves". we're talking about a genre that got its start with joni mitchell and fleetwood mac.

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Sunday, 14 August 2016 23:40 (seven years ago) link

yeah robin hood prince of thieves is the spectrum I'm describing with "bryan ferry" and "phil collins"

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 August 2016 23:49 (seven years ago) link

it would definitely fit in snugly with a person's Coldplay or David Gray records. Acoustic, soft rock, piano ballads, songs about divorce

they talk about the same things and use some similar instruments! same!

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 August 2016 23:54 (seven years ago) link

pretty sure no jacket required isn't about divorce and doesn't have many acoustic guitars and piano ballads

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Sunday, 14 August 2016 23:57 (seven years ago) link

I'm pretty sure there is a song about divorce on that record written by a middle aged guy.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Monday, 15 August 2016 01:56 (seven years ago) link

"adult contemporary" doesn't have to sound like that song from "robin hood: prince of thieves". we're talking about a genre that got its start with joni mitchell and fleetwood mac.

― a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Sunday, August 14, 2016 11:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Monday, 15 August 2016 01:58 (seven years ago) link

While it may not be a Bon Jovi or a Celine Dion record, it would definitely fit in snugly with a person's Coldplay or David Gray records. Acoustic, soft rock, piano ballads, songs about divorce. It has it all. It's Radiohead's Ghost Stories, or... ahahaha... their No Jacket Required!

this is such hackneyed criticism though. "oh no, the normals might like it, it's not daring enough!" -- I thought we were kind of over this line of thinking

The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 15 August 2016 02:50 (seven years ago) link

^^^

6 god none the richer (m bison), Monday, 15 August 2016 02:53 (seven years ago) link

turrican will feel vindicated to hear my mom loves this record, which made me happy

i like the giant piano notes in this "true love waits", like big melting blocks of ice

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Monday, 15 August 2016 03:04 (seven years ago) link

Turrican has been scrambled all day.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 August 2016 03:10 (seven years ago) link

as crap as No Jacket Required is

lol have you heard NJR? There's some spiky, unsettling moments.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 August 2016 03:13 (seven years ago) link

and when were Radiohead revolutionary? They were a decent rock band with cool arrangements.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 August 2016 03:14 (seven years ago) link

a tradition that persists on the new record

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 15 August 2016 03:28 (seven years ago) link

this is such hackneyed criticism though. "oh no, the normals might like it, it's not daring enough!" -- I thought we were kind of over this line of thinking

― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, August 15, 2016 2:50 AM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm only saying what the record is.

lol have you heard NJR? There's some spiky, unsettling moments.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, August 15, 2016 3:13 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes I have, and it's shit. Some music really does deserve to stay in the '80s.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Monday, 15 August 2016 03:46 (seven years ago) link

shifting into second geir

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 15 August 2016 08:53 (seven years ago) link

and when were Radiohead revolutionary? They were a decent rock band with cool arrangements.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

don't recall anybody listening to "kid a" and saying "wow, radiohead sure are a decent rock band with cool arrangements"

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Monday, 15 August 2016 10:58 (seven years ago) link

though mind you "decent rock band with cool arrangements" is a pretty good description of sgt. pepper

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Monday, 15 August 2016 11:00 (seven years ago) link

People be damning each other with faint praise for a band.

Mark G, Monday, 15 August 2016 11:09 (seven years ago) link

I did!

xpost

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 August 2016 11:19 (seven years ago) link

wow, alfred, your ennui sure was ahead of its time :)

on consideration i don't think that "a moon shaped pool" is adult contemporary, but only because radiohead aren't interested in marketing themselves as such. if they wanted to sell themselves on the adult contemporary market, people would buy it without their having to change anything.

a confederacy of lampreys (rushomancy), Monday, 15 August 2016 11:52 (seven years ago) link

You can see "Daydreaming" or "Identikit" fitting in here without their having to change anything?

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Monday, 15 August 2016 11:58 (seven years ago) link

shifting into second geir

― droit au butt (Euler), Monday, August 15, 2016 4:53 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A+

The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 15 August 2016 12:06 (seven years ago) link

xpost A++

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 15 August 2016 13:21 (seven years ago) link

errr - that was meant to A++ JCLC's A+

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 15 August 2016 13:22 (seven years ago) link

fuck I somehow missed the "geir," that's amazing

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 15 August 2016 13:22 (seven years ago) link

'Daydreaming' is one of the most painfully obvious adult contemporary tracks on the record.

As for Geir, as annoying and frustrating as he could be, even he was occasionally OTM.

It is, however, amusing on some level that some people can't handle the idea of their old favourites being on the skids that they'll circle jerk each other into a frenzy over a shit pun.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Monday, 15 August 2016 13:38 (seven years ago) link

it would definitely fit in snugly with a person's Coldplay or David Gray records

This would indeed represent a rapid departure from all those other Radiohead albums.

Matt DC, Monday, 15 August 2016 13:56 (seven years ago) link

It's the same shape as those other records.

Mark G, Monday, 15 August 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link

"adult contemporary" doesn't have to sound like that song from "robin hood: prince of thieves".

Wild Times by Jeff Lynne?

MarkoP, Monday, 15 August 2016 14:41 (seven years ago) link

imo it's a real stretch to call a six minute long song without a chorus and that ends with a kind of sinister swarm of strings "adult contemporary" but of course your opinion wasn't produced by listening critically to the record but by wanting to position yourself as superior to radiohead fans, which is why every comparison you make to other music is only in a pejorative sense, without respect to what those records actually sound like or the idioms the artists actually work in. the scales have fallen from your eyes, etc. iirc this is how a lot of people reacted to kid a

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Monday, 15 August 2016 14:46 (seven years ago) link

your opinion wasn't produced by listening critically to the record but by wanting to position yourself as superior to radiohead fans

Like you would know the precise calculation/formula that leads to any of my opinions being "produced", so do be quiet. But oh, look! It's the "if you don't like anything Radiohead do, then you must be some kind of musical snob" line, so often hammered into the ground over the years by the hardcore fans. "It's textbook!" as they, again, say in the business. But listen, I did buy my first Radiohead record in 1995, and continued to buy each album, including this one, as they were released. Why? Because I may not be one of those uber-hardcore Radiohead fans who think that everything they shit out is a work of genius, but I have enjoyed their music over the years. D'you know what you call a person who likes the music of a certain band and keeps buying the records, Brad? It's called a fan, but you're a bright spark and I shouldn't really be having to tell you that. Therefore, the main point I glean is that I'm trying to "position (myself)" as being superior to "(myself)" in which case: LOL.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Monday, 15 August 2016 15:09 (seven years ago) link

I'm not sure how many people on here are uber-hardcore Radiohead fans who think that everything they shit out is a work of genius. I think it's probably a lot less than you think. King of Limbs got a pretty cool reaction on here didn't it? A Moon Shaped Pool is a big improvement and a good album but it's not a work of genius. That seems to be a pretty common opinion.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 15 August 2016 15:15 (seven years ago) link

Yeah it's fair enough Turrican not liking the album/thinking it sounds like Phil Collins or whatever, but accusing everyone here who's into it even a bit of having bad faith opinions is pretty obnoxious.

chap, Monday, 15 August 2016 15:18 (seven years ago) link

imo it's a real stretch to call a six minute long song without a chorus and that ends with a kind of sinister swarm of strings "adult contemporary"

Yeah, if we're operating by some snowflakey definition where Hejira typifies the roots of AC, maybe I could see it, but basically anything I've ever heard on AC radio features subservient arrangements accompanying big front-and-centre voices singing sentimental hooky choruses. "Daydreaming" is pretty much the opposite of this.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Monday, 15 August 2016 15:20 (seven years ago) link

xpost:

People are forgetting that I've said that I actually like five songs on this record, and are focusing on getting butthurt about comments I've made about the soft, unbearably middle-aged and unexciting sound of the album (true) and hardcore Radiohead fans' tendency to overrate pretty much everything they do (also true). Clearly, 'tis the season.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Monday, 15 August 2016 15:32 (seven years ago) link

nobody's "butthurt" and only children use the term anyway, you tiresome boor

The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 15 August 2016 15:34 (seven years ago) link

Thanks, dad. Rock on!

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Monday, 15 August 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link


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