POLL With It - OASIS (ILM artist poll #78) --- The results thread

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Aw 'Hey Now' was my numerous uno.

'Listen Up' is shorter on The Masterplan than the mix on the original single.
I think they decided to lose about 30 seconds of guitar solo as it went on a bit. Both versions are on Spotify.

piscesx, Saturday, 27 August 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link

Noel Gallagher states that the lyrics are taken from the world around him. For example, a Shaker Maker was a popular toy in the 1970s, the character of "Mr Soft" was taken from a Trebor Soft Mints commercial, which featured Cockney Rebel's song "Mr. Soft", "Mr. Clean" is a song by The Jam, one of Gallagher's favourite bands, Mr Benn is a British children's cartoon and the entire last verse - "Mr Sifter sold me songs/When I was just 16/Now he stops at traffic lights/But only when they're green" - was written in a taxi on the way to the recording studio to record the song. Apparently, Liam Gallagher was pestering Noel to finish the song. At this point, the taxi stopped at the traffic lights outside "Sifters" (a record shop on Fog Lane, Didsbury, Manchester), named after people 'sifting' through records and run by Peter Howard since 1977. Noel penned the lyric and it became part of the song. Noel used to frequent the store to buy old records before Oasis started releasing albums.

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link

"I liked to buy the world a Coke"

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link

Ha, I'd always associated that whole bit with the Mr. Men line of children's books.

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 27 August 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link

See also Monty Python's"I like traffic lights"

Mark G, Saturday, 27 August 2016 20:36 (seven years ago) link

yay, my number 11.

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link

I like / have mild college nostalgia for enough songs by this band to have taken a minute to vote, w Shakermaker my vote for worst. the chorus is painful, probably a good litmus test for how big a fan you could become, just a grind, I guess a truer British grunge than Bush

droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 27 August 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link

ha, someone did vote for it in the worst track part of this poll.

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link

damn it, somehow messed up the numbering:

32. Hey Now!
31. Shakermaker
30. Round Are Way

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link

One of the B-sides, "Stay Young", has become a popular Oasis song, so much so that fans voted it onto the B-sides collection The Masterplan - one of only two B-sides from the Be Here Now period which made the album. The song was originally intended to be the "Digsy's Dinner" of Be Here Now (the lighthearted novelty track, such as "Digsy's Dinner" on Definitely Maybe and "She's Electric" on (What's the Story) Morning Glory?), until Noel set it aside in favour of "Magic Pie".

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link

also someone's number one and one less vote then the last few.

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link

Can't believe they actually released a song called Round Are Way.

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Which contains the lyric "round our way the birds are mingin'".

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new noise, Saturday, 27 August 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link

"Going Nowhere" - apparently Noel's attempt at a Burt Bacharach style song - can be found on The Masterplan, a collection of Oasis B-sides. It is one of only two B-sides from the Be Here Now era to be included on the album. Although it was not released until 1997, the song was written in 1990, before Noel even joined Oasis.

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

'Shakermaker' = too high.
'Round Are Way' = too low.

Really delighted to see both 'Stay Young' and 'Going Nowhere' place.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 27 August 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

two Be Here Now b-sides in a row and both on The Masterplan.

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link

"Going Nowhere" WAY too low - had it as my #2! With or without the Bacharach-isms it just captures something really perfectly Oasis.

"Round Are Way" is good fun all round, very silly and maybe trying a little too hard to get its Penny Lane slice-of-life. But at least it has lyrics, and a great la-la-la-la-la part.

"Roll With It" though is pretty much trash except for the "I know the road down which your life will drive..." section which is at least more melodically interesting (with very solid backing vocals from Noel) and at least slightly less stupid lyrics. The chorus though is painful, the last thing I need is Liam Gallagher shouting life advice platitudes at me. When it comes back around at a minute and a half it's like, fuck, just end the song now. All the second half does is mark space out for more guitar solos and stuff but it's just, ugh, sorry, I really hate that song.

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 27 August 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link

Now, if they'd covered the Steve Winwood "Roll With It," that I'd be interested in.

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 27 August 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link

i pretty much agree with your take on "Roll With it." it's too Oasis by-the-numbers for me.

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link

i think i need a beer

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:01 (seven years ago) link

The B-side "Step Out" was originally intended for the (What's the Story) Morning Glory? album but was taken off after Stevie Wonder requested 10% of the royalties as the chorus bore a similarity to his hit "Uptight (Everything's Alright)". Also, because of this, Wonder, Henry Cosby and Sylvia Moy received credit for writing the song, along with Noel.

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:04 (seven years ago) link

i would have loved for this song to be on What's the Story) Morning Glory? it would have made the album even better.

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:05 (seven years ago) link

I like 'Roll With It', but wouldn't consider it anywhere near one of the best songs Oasis had at that time. I'm surprised to see it come in so high, but then again the results of this poll are surprising the hell out of me in general, mostly in a good way.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

had a few beers today, and 'all around the world' is sounding fantastic.

f&ck the hate.

the more excessive they got, the better things ended up.

mark e, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link

i like that song too. it's nowhere near my Top 25 however.

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link

Noel Gallagher wrote this about The Verve lead singer Richard Ashcroft. He explained to Select magazine: "He always seemed to me to not be very happy about what was going on around him, almost trying too hard. That's why it goes, 'He was bound with the weight of all the words he tried to say.' I always felt he was born at the wrong place, and in the wrong place, and he was always trying to say the right things, but they came out wrong."

"I played him the song, and he nearly started crying," Gallagher continued. "I was like, 'Come on, hold yourself together, son! Easy now!'

"In a way, it's about all my friends who were in groups," he concluded. "We are bound with the weight of all the words we have to say. We're always looking for more."

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:26 (seven years ago) link

i also thought that Verve was a much better band than Oasis. so when i heard this was about Richard Ashcoft it really seemed OTM.

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:35 (seven years ago) link

not sure i still feel this way however. Oasis seemed to age better and this poll has awoken something again.

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link

I think The Verve were at their best with their early singles and A Storm In Heaven.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:42 (seven years ago) link

oh man i totally forgot about "step out" -- would've been high on my list. adore "going nowhere" and very nearly had it as my no. 1. some of noel's most poignant + genuine lyrics, along w/ a gorgeous tune.

"roll with it" i actually like, although there's something oddly un-oasis-like and generic about the tune -- feels like it could be any band. i mostly rated it for sentimental reasons -- still vividly remember how exciting it was to buy morning glory and sit through it for the first time.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:43 (seven years ago) link

My #11. To my surprise this was one of the tracks from Morning Glory that I still like a lot. Glad to see it place so high!

mathiasa, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link

this poll would have been incomplete if this song didn't make it.

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:49 (seven years ago) link

In a 1997 interview promoting Be Here Now, Noel Gallagher had the following to say about the first single: "I was going to make up some profound statement in the chorus but I couldn't come up with anything that fitted. Then I just thought "All my people right here, right now, d'you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah." Very vague, very ambiguous, that'll do. Look in the mirror and wink while you're singing it and it's quite saucy. And I fucking love that line, 'Coming in a mess, going out in style'. We were a bunch of scruffs from Manchester and we're going out in a Rolls Royce."

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:49 (seven years ago) link

(NG's 2016 Rethink): https://youtu.be/xKsT0Z6HW5k

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link

My #13, the NG remake has been playing a LOT on my playlists the last month. Doesn't seem like I will grow tired of it quite yet..

mathiasa, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:53 (seven years ago) link

Might be the one I go back to more than any other. Felt a significant shift at the time but p much of a piece with morning glory in my head now.

Great work here b ok

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link

Oasis as a band would be incomplete without "D'You Know What I Mean?" We might not notice its absence but their whole narrative would be different I think. It's the best version of the total steamrolling excess of Be Here Now, strong enough on pure swagger and massiveness that it sort of reshapes what's around it a little. Not enough to make it a great album but enough that I kept coming back and trying to like the rest more, like this is the mission statement and the rest was the failed attempt to carry out the mission.

Silence, followed by unintelligible stammering. (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:56 (seven years ago) link

thanks, xpost

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 22:59 (seven years ago) link

that 2016 version is excellent, first time listening to it. going to play it again.

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 23:00 (seven years ago) link

they should re-go the whole album!

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link

*re-do

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link

Noel said of the song: "If 'The Shock of the Lightning' sounds instant and compelling to you, it's because it was written dead fast. And recorded dead fast. 'The Shock of the Lightning' basically is the demo. And it has retained its energy. And there's a lot to be said for that, I think. The first time you record something is always the best". It was described by NME as "a massively improved version of 'It's Gettin' Better (Man!!)'" and featuring "love is a litany/a magical mystery" as the song's chorus.

Bee OK, Saturday, 27 August 2016 23:12 (seven years ago) link


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