I have had it up to here waiting for the Beatles catalogue to be remastered

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Just as long as they didn't cut that one Irish guy with the yellow glasses.

Berberian Begins at Home (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 October 2016 15:20 (seven years ago) link

i'm a huge beatles nerd and even I'm rolling my eyes at that review

i mean, i get it..but jeez

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 2 October 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link

I dunno, I think that review gets it right. The film struck me as Anthology Lite, with shitty (and totally unnecessary, and distracting) colorization. Showing clips with Jimmy Nicol without mentioning him was weird, and there was far too much emphasis on the films and studio records for a film purportedly about their live performance days.

Hamburg got short shrift, especially considering George always maintained that was their peak ("our best stuff was never recorded"). As did the Cavern -- George Martin was so impressed with their show that he initially wanted their first album to be a live recording.

In Anthology, they all talk about the allure of America being the music they loved -- the Shirelles, Chuck Berry, Fats Domino (who appears in the film, but is not identified), and especially Motown. No one thought to ask their feelings on playing in Detroit, where their heroes were from (and who were their stiffest competition on the US charts)? Instead, we get John talking about Fred Astaire, which, fine...but I think Smokey Robinson and Marvin Gaye deserved mention (in the clip with Murray the K, John is phoning him to request "Pride and Joy").

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 2 October 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link

I saw the film this weekend and I thought it was embarrassingly dull. I liked George's rather dry comments, but most of his extracts were from Anthology. I enjoyed the Shea Stadium extra more than the film itself.

Half-baked profundities. Self-referential smirkiness (Bob Six), Sunday, 2 October 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link

hmm..

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 09:45 (seven years ago) link

hmm, that was good.

http://www.deagostini.com/uk/collections/beatles-vinyl-collection/assets/images/sfondo-num1.jpg

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 October 2016 09:47 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.amazon.com/Peppers-Lonely-Hearts-Anniversary-Deluxe/dp/B06WGVMLJY

You want remaster? Have six discs of it!

Mark G, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 19:48 (seven years ago) link

I'm seriously struggling to think of how they would fill those 6 discs ... obviously, there'd be the LP (in mono and stereo), other singles and B-sides put out in '67, possibly some Anthology-type stuff... the internet would lose its shit if 'Carnival of Light' was on there, which I would expect to be a listen-once-and-then-meh kinda deal anyway.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link

here's some info / preview trailer
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/D1SlZaoXPGS.mp4

tylerw, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 20:18 (seven years ago) link

Disc 1: Album remixed (in stereo) by Giles Martin

Disc 2-3: outtakes and extras

Disc 4: Mono mix on CD

Discs 5-6: DVD/Blu-ray containing restored The Making of Sgt. Pepper

144 page book, posters, insert

tylerw, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 20:18 (seven years ago) link

probably my least favorite of their psychedelic period releases tbh

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 20:22 (seven years ago) link

I am the kind of clown that would almost shell out for just the two discs of just Sgt. Pepper's "outtakes and extras," even though I know the Anthology must have already sopped up the juiciest stuff. Don't care, I'll listen to random other takes of "Lovely Rita" or whatever else you've got. But a six-disc pacakge for $150...whoooof!

long dark poptart of the rodeo (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 20:23 (seven years ago) link

I would happily lose my shit if "Carnival of Light" was on there. But my guess is it's mostly false starts, breakdowns, and isolated instrument/vocal tracks.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link

one disc is an entire reel's worth of abbey road room tone accidentally recorded when geoff emerick accidentally knocked the 'record' button before heading out to lunch

stanley weebeard (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 20:25 (seven years ago) link

Shakey OTM. I listen to Magical Mystery Tour and the first half of Yellow Submarine far more these days.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 20:31 (seven years ago) link

Surely McCartney must be aware by now that, fifty years down the line, Sgt. Pepper's generally isn't considered to be their finest work.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 20:34 (seven years ago) link

stunned that a man with such a rich, lustrous and widely-remarked-upon head of natural chestnut hair could be out of touch with public opinion

stanley weebeard (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 20:42 (seven years ago) link

👏 WHERE 👏 IS 👏 CARNIVAL 👏 OF 👏 LIGHT 👏

flappy bird, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 20:49 (seven years ago) link

Surely McCartney must be aware by now that, fifty years down the line, Sgt. Pepper's generally isn't considered to be their finest work.

― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, April 4, 2017 3:34 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't know i feel like it still gets the canonical props? but not in the real headz know the deal circles

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 20:52 (seven years ago) link

yeah outside of rockist circles I think it's still considered a bit of a gamechanger

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 21:00 (seven years ago) link

i will definitely buy this and listen to all of it but then again i've always thought mark lewisohn was one of the luckiest ppl in history for getting to sit there and listen to every single beatles recording session for his book

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 21:03 (seven years ago) link

in Beatles fan circles people moaned like fuck about how they missed the Revolver 50th and how there'd been no package to commemorate it, so they were damned if they did/didn't really. meanwhile in Liverpool there's a whole slew of anniversary dos across 2 months
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/sgt-peppers-lonely-hearts-club-band-50th-anniversary-beatles-album-liverpool-plans-celebrates-a7645231.html

piscesx, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 22:12 (seven years ago) link

Christ, if people in Beatles fan circles were whining about this music not repackaged yet again for the zillionth time, then...

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 22:21 (seven years ago) link

*being

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 22:22 (seven years ago) link

zillionth? well that's the thing, to be honest until 2009's reissues there'd been remarkably little in the way of repackaging. and this is The Beatles! even now there's only been one set of out-takes and that was 22 years ago. i mean if you compare it to the endless boxes-with-t-shirts-and-6-discs-in affairs that Bowie seemed so keen on, to say nothing of the 'every single session recorded in 1966 across 27 discs!' style hoo ha that Dylan gets, or the Miles splurges, it's been pretty thin gruel all round.

i mean check the name of this thread!

piscesx, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 22:29 (seven years ago) link

i've come back around on Sgt. Pepper, it has a really great side 1. i always forget about "Getting Better" when i'm not listening to it, it's one of their best songs.

i want them to release "Carnival of Light" and any psychedelic late night jams they want to throw on as well.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 22:31 (seven years ago) link

yeah outside of rockist circles I think it's still considered a bit of a gamechanger

― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, April 4, 2017 5:00 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not only that, but at the time the reaction -- from fans, from their parents, from people who'd never paid any attention to them -- was overwhelming. It's such an annoying boomer cliche, but everyone was digging that record, and while it arguably pales in comparison to Revolver, I'm sure it was this reaction coming after months of laboring over it that sticks in Paul's and Ringo's minds rather than, say, "Huh, Mojo didn't vote it #1."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 22:31 (seven years ago) link

Yeah exactly.

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 22:46 (seven years ago) link

Yes, let's not pretend The Capitol Albums, Live at the BBC, Anthology, Yellow Submarine Songtrack, Live at the Hollywood Bowl, Beatles 1, Love, Let It Be... Naked, the red and blue albums etc. didn't exist or anything...

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 22:46 (seven years ago) link

So what?

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 22:48 (seven years ago) link

The Sgt. Pepper songs on Hollywood Bowl kill. They were really ahead of their time.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 22:50 (seven years ago) link

Besides, it's 2017... I don't really care at this stage how people in 1967 heard it, I care about the way I hear it in 2017, and what I hear isn't their finest collection of songs. The orchestral part on 'A Day In The Life' is one of the few moments that still sounds mindblowing in 2017. Everything else sounds "of its time", which is to be expected.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 22:53 (seven years ago) link

Gilles Martin-remixed? Wonderful - count me in. I love, love, love 'LOVE'.

It may not be The Beatles' best album but we're really talking in splitting-hairs contest terms. It's certainly the most iconic for a number of reasons, and you can't escape that. Most cinematic/"album-y", too - best reason for a modern remix (see: Pink Floyd / King Crimson remasters).

Re: Paul's natural chestnut hair - hm. I think it's more like Japanese-middle-age-ladies-hair-dye hair.

Max Florian, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 22:54 (seven years ago) link

xx-post:

So, it hasn't exactly been "thin gruel", has it? There's been plenty of this shit over the years.

...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 22:57 (seven years ago) link

can't believe i've spent over 7 years hemming and hawing over whether to buy the mono CD remaster box

the late great, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 23:02 (seven years ago) link

Yes, let's not pretend The Capitol Albums, Live at the BBC, Anthology, Yellow Submarine Songtrack, Live at the Hollywood Bowl, Beatles 1, Love, Let It Be... Naked, the red and blue albums etc. didn't exist or anything...

― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, April 4, 2017 10:46 PM (yesterday)

i'd say this qualifies as "thin gruel" next to the endless repackaged hits collections/live albums/box sets we've gotten from the stones, dylan, hendrix, etc. i mean the stones' catalog is almost incomprehensible to me at this point. the beatles seem to have gone out of their way to keep their basic catalog as pure as possible.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 00:16 (seven years ago) link

Sgt. Pepper is my favorite Beatles album.

timellison, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 00:23 (seven years ago) link

Brand new stereo mix by Giles Martin and Sam Okell, you guys!

timellison, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 00:26 (seven years ago) link

After having just listened to Yellow Submarine Songtrack for the first time in a long time recently, I say this is going to rock.

timellison, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 00:27 (seven years ago) link

repackaged hits collections/live albums/box sets we've gotten from the stones, dylan, hendrix, etc. i mean

Dylan has released an incredible amount of very substantial and important studio outtakes and live albums, to the point where I think you could make the case the Bootleg Series is as good as the proper studio albums, certainly leagues above the Hendrix or the Stones

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 00:34 (seven years ago) link

Also Dylan is putting out stuff like he Bootleg Basement Tapes that had been circulating and being sold as bootlegs for years as A Tree With Roots it's not like no one was asking for it

Some like the complete Highway 61 or the real Royal Albert Hall large set, there's always a reasonably priced 2cd alternative

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 00:38 (seven years ago) link

yeah dylan is prob in a different category since a lot of his very best work never ended up on his studio albums. tbh that could be true of hendrix also but i've never been able to make much sense of his posthumous releases.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 00:38 (seven years ago) link

Beatles are most like Led Zep where there just doesn't seem to be much there in terms of really significant outtakes, as we saw the label throwing its back out trying to come up with "extras" to justify those deluxe Led Zep reissues

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 00:44 (seven years ago) link

So, it hasn't exactly been "thin gruel", has it? There's been plenty of this shit over the years.

― ...so music and chicken have become intertwined (Turrican), Tuesday, April 4, 2017 6:57 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not really, all the stuff you mentioned doesn't come close to the level of unheard material that dylan, bowie, stones, miles davis, etc. have put out.

The Capitol Albums, Beatles 1, Red and Blue albums are all compilations of previously released material.

Yellow Submarine Songtrack, Love, Let It Be... Naked are all remixes of previously released material.

Live at the BBC, Live at the Hollywood Bowl... sure, these are fine. not that exciting

the Anthology is the only project they've done that's all previously unreleased stuff.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 00:54 (seven years ago) link

i dunno. Anthology has a lot of gold. things like I'm Only Sleeping with an intro performed on vibraphone or Tomorrow Never Knows with an entirely different, more raw, drone rock backing track. there are a lot of really amazing outtakes for Strawberry Fields Forever, which was really the start of the whole Sgt. Pepper project. any decent Sgt. Pepper has to start with SFF and PL.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 00:55 (seven years ago) link

and i'm aware there isn't much left... except carnival of light

xp yeah i love the anthology, i'm just saying it's the only thing they've done that's all unheard stuff

flappy bird, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 00:56 (seven years ago) link

"Not Guilty" is really fucking awesome. the Anthology recording of "That Means a Lot" was on some other plane of orchestrated Roy Orbison beauty compared to the comedy rock they were doing at the time.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 00:57 (seven years ago) link

Compare to the histrionics of PJ Proby's hit version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJMbEYuxeGw

Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 01:06 (seven years ago) link


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