Your 5 favorite albums

sorry, i didn't mean to call the website "stupid", i just think it's stupid to treat it as some monolithic thing with its own 'taste'

― brimstead

two words: egyptian. shumba.

(well actually i'm not sure "shumba" is an actual word. you get my point.)

Jon not Jon: Yes, on RYM at least I can filter the majority of these well-worn records out. Else, it just looks like every other list of albums since ever.

RYM fucking rules

"Orchestra Luna - s/t"

OMG you are best ilm poster and welcome in my record store any time.

RYM is great. Pretty much like Amazon reviews minus corrupt "featured" reviews. Lists, avg rating and genre-sorting are super informative and often helpful. The writing itself runs gamut from unreadable, to often better than you'll find at most professional music publications, esp for stuff that as mentioned, usually doesn't get written about. Music obsessives who know a ton about only one kind of music will write super-detailed reviews of super obscure records. Same with record collectors who go out of there way to hear everything -- does that mean I always agree w/their review? No, but who doesn't want an informed opinion?

And yeah, if you hang around long enough, you will notice people saying things like "RYM likes this a lot". Because the site emphasizes metrics and categorization, genres and "tastes" seem to evolve out of it. No, the site is not a monolithic music AI -- but it affects opinions and perspectives about music that wouldn't happen otherwise.

shit, two paragraphs means I actively tried to derail a thread

last night I dreamed I was on the (blue) nile

my latest thing with rym has been the lists. the thing tim f said about knowing four of the selections? there are so, so many user-generated lists like that. find a reasonably obscure record you like and see what lists it's on, instant discovery engine.

^^^ this is definitely the key

lots of top 20/weird genre-specific lists out there that randomly list albums I love, discovered so much weird and cool stuff that way

Zaragon is still my hero and spirit animal after all these years. nobody else comes close:

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Zaragon/1972___four_digits_in_queue/

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Zaragon/1973___a_sound_you_gotta_see/

Jon not Jon: Yes, on RYM at least I can filter the majority of these well-worn records out. Else, it just looks like every other list of albums since ever.

― pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Wednesday, October 5, 2016 4:32 PM (eleven minutes ago)

i think, uh, jon was referring to the social aspect of this thread/board, something that we all understand might be difficult for you to grasp

^^^

Here are my lists. https://rateyourmusic.com/list/lolvalstein/

ILM is invaluable. Probably at least a dozen users here whose opinions and recommendations carry real weight. Weird to think about how many great albums I'd have missed out on without it.

What is RYM? Is it just amateur reviewers writing reviews? Because that doesn't seem very useful.

(Especially ILM's R&B threads. I'm not sure there's a better source for vetted R&B recommendations out there)

xxxpost:

If your idea of socialising is typing out lists of well-worn canonical albums, then fucking hell!

But y'know, carry on turning ILM into Q Magazine by all means.

as to weird/genre specific lists- that strangeways record i posted above... there are people there who really, really care about aor. and when i was growing up, man, it was the worst music possible, really terrible, but when i see someone who has so much enthusiasm about a record, it's infectious. man i want to like everything.

I dunno, I used to feel that way (wanting to like everything) and I've always gone into listening to a record that is new to me for the first time thinking "I hope I like this" rather than "this is gonna suck", but I've kinda accepted that there are some things that I'm just never going to be on board with.

5 albums in 5 minutes of thought

John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman
Pharoah Sanders - Karma
Crossing the Red Sea with The Adverts
Arnold Dreyblatt - Animal Magnetism
Bang on a Can - Renegade Heaven

xxxpost:

If your idea of socialising is typing out lists of well-worn canonical albums, then fucking hell!

But y'know, carry on turning ILM into Q Magazine by all means.

― pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Wednesday, October 5, 2016 4:55 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ok... so... because i have virtually 'socialized' with many of the people itt on subjects both musical and non-musical, to the point where many of them have for me palpable personae and points of view, the of-the-moment half-sober all time top 5s listed by these specific people are of interest to me. yes?

OTM

for example, never heard that Dreyblatt that was just listed, or the Bang On A Can

But y'know, carry on turning ILM into Q Magazine by all means.

Silly.

Jon not Jon: Also, I should point out that RYM also has its own community/forum, a feature of the site which I don't use because, like this thread, I don't find it particularly useful.

RYM's forum is like the worst forum ever haha

not so much in terms of content but design. it's completely impossible to even know how to fruitfully participate

Jon not Jon: Yes, on RYM at least I can filter the majority of these well-worn records out. Else, it just looks like every other list of albums since ever.

― pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Wednesday, October 5, 2016 4:32 PM (eleven minutes ago)

i think, uh, jon was referring to the social aspect of this thread/board, something that we all understand might be difficult for you to grasp

― k3vin k., Wednesday, 5 October 2016 20:46 (thirty-three minutes ago) Permalink

Haha

Indeed, ILM at its best (when it doesn't stoop to listing things that have been listed a zillion times over) is so far superior to the RYM forum at its best that it isn't even a competition.

But y'know, carry on turning ILM into Q Magazine by all means.

― pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican)

Are you reading the same thread as everybody else? Are you seeing endless lists of Nevermind, The Stone Roses, OK Computer, The Joshua Tree and Definitely Maybe? That's really not what is happening here.

Kitchen Person: Yes, I am reading the same thread as everyone else.

Tim F still butthurt that I loathe The 1975, clearly.

I Like It When You Sleep... is probably in my top 5 albums of more than 5 words in the title tbf

a walk across the rooftops
vrioon
colossal youth
sleep no more
tusk

Some more:
Lambchop - Is a Woman
Boards of Canada - In a Beautiful Place out in the Country
Swell - 41
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
Wipers - Youth of America

can't help but resent the notion that my list has been listed a zillion times already, considering I deliberately picked five that are hardly discussed here if at all, and further picked five that flappy might like, I guess this is part of the social aspect everyone is on about

I have no idea how to search the rym top 5000(!) albums but I might be surprised to see some of the stuff on this thread, and certainly most of my five beyond Breakfast in America

socialism!

"STOP HAVING FUN"

Tim F still butthurt that I loathe The 1975, clearly.

― pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 21:25 (one hour ago) Permalink

nah having fake alex in nyc around is always a handy way of defining one's aesthetic borders aka "negative partisanship"

Tim, please go outside and get some sunshine, you have absolutely no excuse.

aren't you burned out of listening to music or something?

Nevermind
The Stone Roses
OK Computer
The Joshua Tree
Definitely Maybe

brimstead: I'm no longer listening to and/or consuming music at the same rate that I once was. I've listened to a fraction of the music that I normally would have done this past week. I'm enjoying it more, too.

I have no idea how to search the rym top 5000(!) albums but I might be surprised to see some of the stuff on this thread, and certainly most of my five beyond Breakfast in America

socialism!

― erudite beach boys fan (sheesh)

duncan browne's s/t is only #7,370

rym forum not _quite_ as useless as it would appear to be- linking to threads as well as to lists on release pages helps, even though most of the threads in question are old and locked, and i'm enjoying the upstart attempt to do a classical listening club- but there are a lot of woodpeckers and kids who really like doing drugs.

Nevermind
The Stone Roses
OK Computer
The Joshua Tree
Definitely Maybe

― Οὖτις

My plan worked. Every good album ever made has now been accounted for. We did it kids!

Lock the thread.

nah having fake alex in nyc around is always a handy way of defining one's aesthetic borders aka "negative partisanship"

Wait, what? Do I have an unconvincing doppleganger or something?

Alex, according to young Timothy here, I'm apparently "ripping off" your posting style. What he doesn't understand is that I don't actually know much about your history here, aside from that you love The Stranglers, which is always an opinion worthy of the highest respect.

"nah having fake alex in nyc around is always a handy way of defining one's aesthetic borders aka "negative partisanship"

we need a highbrow zing thread...

"I've listened to a fraction of the music that I normally would have done this past week. I'm enjoying it more, too."

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_s03XW1ZvVvE/SpNr5MCGi-I/AAAAAAAAAoM/gr-Py31y8No/s400/mike-jeff.jpg

Turrican, I like you man but youre being ridiculous and drawing arguements out of thin air. Im sure Tim F is not in the slightest bit bothered about yr opinion of The 1975.

Ok my last top 5

A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders
The Fall - This nations saving grace
AR Kane - 69
Mercury Rev - Boces
Love - Forever Changes

Im going to bed and i will give big youth - screaming target a listen

Sorry Brad, i didnt like that Debarge album much

Time Will Reveal is a perfect song tho

quite something how shook turrican is re: other people wanting to play high fidelity just for a moment

fwiw i see this thread as having a significantly different function to a rym user list or some spotify recommending bot. i'm not interested in their favourite records. but i'm definitely interested in the favourite records of particular ILM posters, some of whom i've been reading/following for a number of years!

Sorry Brad, i didnt like that Debarge album much

― Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Wednesday, October 5, 2016 6:26 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

u monster