pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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looks like they're starting to phase out track reviews? i see only 4 or 5 posted from this week so far, whereas there used to be 8 or 9 per day.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 18:56 (eight years ago) link

Good. those track reviews were always so confusing and pointless. even more shoehorning and spinning than the album reviews

flappy bird, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link

you do realize the review was written by a senior editor and not "the intern"

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 20 October 2016 04:01 (eight years ago) link

like, I don't care if the review was 1000 words, 999 of which were actually a digression to endorse Donald Trump, that'd still be unnecessary and insulting

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 20 October 2016 04:17 (eight years ago) link

you do realize the review was written by a senior editor and not "the intern"

that it was written by a senior editor makes the review even sadder

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 October 2016 15:39 (eight years ago) link

hahaha god

imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:34 (eight years ago) link

not as sad as failing to read someone's title, which is right on the fucking page)

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:40 (eight years ago) link

er, missing parenthetical should be (but that'd require actually engaging in good faith)

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:40 (eight years ago) link

fwiw I did read it. I also know what a waltz is.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:50 (eight years ago) link

not as sad as failing to read someone's title, which is right on the fucking page)

― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, October 20, 2016 12:40 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh come on

flappy bird, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:53 (eight years ago) link

i take back the bit about it being written by an intern. i proffer instead the view that at least one of pitchfork's senior editors writes like an intern

imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:54 (eight years ago) link

the review's emphasis on how self-aware the artist is is embarrassing, it's basically insulting to artists in general by implying that it's unusual for an artist to be aware of the tropes/styles/aesthetic frameworks they operate in

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:56 (eight years ago) link

xpost

lmao

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 16:58 (eight years ago) link

Katherine, how do you expect this argument to play out, honestly?

Louis: "This review is bad."

Katherine: "Um, it was written by a senior editor at Pitchfork Media."

Louis: "My mistake, it is in fact very good."

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:03 (eight years ago) link

That wasn't really her point though, as far as I can tell. Just that it wasn't actually written by an intern.

Evan, Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:05 (eight years ago) link

my point is "if you're going to publicly mock writers and/or their work, you should at least get your facts straight," and also "maybe don't refer to senior editors as 'the intern,' especially if they're women"

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:18 (eight years ago) link

Um, a lot of his favorite art films pass the Bechdel test, remember?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link

Whiney, how do you expect this argument to play out, honestly? :)

Frederik B, Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:34 (eight years ago) link

ideally without me reading the review or learning what "weyes blood" sounds like

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:38 (eight years ago) link

you'd like the record i feel. it's good

flappy bird, Thursday, 20 October 2016 17:41 (eight years ago) link

cool, you got anything i can read on it?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:00 (eight years ago) link

also, to clarify, katherine, yes I see how louis is using coded misogynist language, but i just think it's fun to pop in here and be a dick

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:01 (eight years ago) link

referring to a female senior editor as 'the intern' strikes me as less of an antifeminist dickmove than halfheartedly giving one of the greatest albums of the 21st century so far an 8.3 and a trite let's-make-loads-of-shitty-comparisons review when had it been made by a man, say mark kozelek, who is maybe 1/60 as interesting as weyes blood, the review would have been fucking oceans of existential rapture. idk though it's all subjective isn't it

imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:07 (eight years ago) link

xp whiney, you have finally crafted your platonic ideal post; please contact the tattoo parlor asap
<3

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:08 (eight years ago) link

referring to a female senior editor as 'the intern' strikes me as less of an antifeminist dickmove than halfheartedly giving one of the greatest albums of the 21st century so far an 8.3

https://67.media.tumblr.com/7e87f06fd6f49e15b90e24bb725b929d/tumblr_nwi2h92tYt1uj1zxso1_400.gif

nomar, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:34 (eight years ago) link

Louis, heads up, your weird obsession with RYM ratings and Pitchfork scores is really more appropriate for /mu/ and Reddit and Fantano YouTube comments and other places where — COINCIDENCE?!?! — is also more acceptable to make antifeminist dickmoves.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:35 (eight years ago) link

referring to a female senior editor as 'the intern' strikes me as less of an antifeminist dickmove than halfheartedly giving one of the greatest albums of the 21st century so far an 8.3 and a trite let's-make-loads-of-shitty-comparisons review when had it been made by a man, say mark kozelek, who is maybe 1/60 as interesting as weyes blood, the review would have been fucking oceans of existential rapture. idk though it's all subjective isn't it

― imago, Thursday, October 20, 2016 11:07 AM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nice bait and switch here by the big man

*-* (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:36 (eight years ago) link

those places are full of actual mouthbreathing morons though so I don't post there

i can see why it was a problematic statement and i feel a bit bad for saying it but i really was just commenting on the ineptitude of the writing. i didn't even consider the gender of the writer. perhaps i should have. sorry.

imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:37 (eight years ago) link

intern lives matter

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:39 (eight years ago) link

and fwiw i think that more music journalism should be by women, poc and other non-hegemonic identities, but that won't stop me from calling out shitty music journalism if it directly misconstrues the work of artists i like, no matter who wrote it

imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link

and fwiw i think that more music journalism should be by women, poc and other non-hegemonic identities, but that won't stop me from calling women "the intern"

― imago, Thursday, October 20, 2016 2:41 PM (forty-one seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:42 (eight years ago) link

you're a pest, whiney, a pest

imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link

from here to internity

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:47 (eight years ago) link

guys this is the thread for complaining about Pfork not rehashing pointless beefs

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link

lol

imago, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link

looks like this thread has taken a 'tern for the worse

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link

so I heard weyes blood in a movie theater the other day

flappy bird, Thursday, 20 October 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link

you know what's a cool film is Wise Blood

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 October 2016 19:24 (eight years ago) link

this part kinda puzzled me:

"Or look to the album’s cover. The scene—a river winding through a dystopian landscape..."

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a2396628571_10.jpg

scott seward, Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:51 (eight years ago) link

i don't know, whiney, this sounds made for you:

"On “Generation Why,” arguably the album’s centerpiece, she actually sings the letters “YOLO” with more thoughtful care than the phrase ever deserved."

scott seward, Thursday, 20 October 2016 20:54 (eight years ago) link

haha totes trolling whiney

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link

lol

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 20 October 2016 21:22 (eight years ago) link

it really is a *terrific* album, though

alpine static, Thursday, 20 October 2016 23:35 (eight years ago) link

"Or look to the album’s cover. The scene—a river winding through a dystopian landscape..."

lol what a hellscape

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Friday, 21 October 2016 13:41 (eight years ago) link

Someone should get her out of there before the tide rises!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 October 2016 13:49 (eight years ago) link

not to worry

she'll touch upon the california drought in her next record

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 21 October 2016 18:13 (eight years ago) link

Ha, guess what they are playing in Rough Trade right now

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 22 October 2016 15:27 (eight years ago) link

https://www.google.com/#safe=off&q=pitchfork.com+wizened

Did I miss the part where the accepted meaning of "wizened" changed due to constant misuse? Or are all these artists wrinklier than I imagined?

geoffreyess, Monday, 24 October 2016 23:41 (eight years ago) link

Produced by Pitchfork for Levi's®

marcos, Thursday, 27 October 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link


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