https://devonrecordclub.com/2016/10/24/jeff-buckley-grace-round-96-nicks-choice/
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link
i love u scik, this is so good & very otm
i'm always leery of buckley writeups because ppl seem to either dismiss most of his music or gush about him so much it's embarrassing
yours hits the bullseye dead-on & captures what is great (& difficult) about his music
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link
Nice write-up, except for all the guilt stuff. I don't think I've ever felt guilty listening to music. Grace definitely feels like music of a certain mood and time for me, neither of which I particularly want to revisit often -- too vulnerable? Too emotional/dramatic? Sort of, though I certainly still listen to music that I could call "emotional" or "dramatic" or "vulnerable". Will play this again soon for a reminder of what I'm apparently avoiding, so thanks for that!
― Dominique, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link
I liked the music, wish there was more fo it . Especially with the first main band. But he seems to have been not a very nice person, at least if you believe Gary Lucas etc.
Would have loved to hear more from that band even without him, but was he the main thing sticking them together.
& I think my favourite song by him was actually written by a member of Fishbone though it sounded like it was directly biographical to Jeff.
Think I have a lot of live stuff with that band with Grondahl etc though not seen it in a while
― Stevolende, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link
Just listened, and yeah, still good. Great, even. If anything, I'm more impressed by his voice and singing than ever. Still remembered almost all the twists and turned by heart, so my non-play may very well be down to over-exposure when it came out, and several years after. Onto Sketches...
― Dominique, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link
Middle third of disc one of sketches is a drag but the rest is really good.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 25 October 2016 18:11 (seven years ago) link
I liked that, thank you. I think I'm OK with the sentimentalist in me that can still swoon at 'Lover You Should Have Come Over' (I even love the 'tear' line), though I'm wary of his dodgy poetry and dodgier flares. I've listened to Grace more in the last six months than I have in the last ten years and it's patchy, but damn the high points are high.
― Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 09:00 (seven years ago) link
Ooh, which one is that?
― Is that my hand, manatee? (stevie), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 10:36 (seven years ago) link
What Will You Say which is officially released on Mystery White Boy and possibly elsewhere. Seems to have been mainly written by Chris Dowd possibly with some help from Jeff.
It's been such a long timeAnd I was just a child thenWhat will you sayWhen you see my face?Time feels like it's flown awayThe days just pass and fade awayWhat will you sayWhen they take my place?
It's funny nowI just don't feel like a manWhat will you sayWhen you see my face?My face...
Mother dear, the world's gone coldNo one cares about love anymoreWhat will you sayWhen you see my face?
Father do you hear me?Do you know me?Do you even care?What will you sayWhen they take my place?
My heart can't take this anymoreWhat will you sayWhen you see my face?When you see my,See my face...
I can feel your time crawlingTo a slow endI can feel my time crawlingTo a slow end...
Father do you hear me?Do you know me?Did you even care?What will you sayWhen you take my place?
Well it's so funny nowI just don't feel like I'm a manWhat will you say?
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 11:43 (seven years ago) link
Oh, right. Loved his album as the Seedy Arkestra.
― Is that my hand, manatee? (stevie), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link
he is incredibly incredibly overtalked about and overrated - and grace is definitely awfully produced and relies on the covers... but there's also a huge amount of brilliance and potential. first disk of Sketches is full of really inspired stuff.
― jamiesummerz, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 16:08 (seven years ago) link
How / why is Grace awfully produced?
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 26 October 2016 16:23 (seven years ago) link
oh, because definitely
― niels, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 16:29 (seven years ago) link
Grace is wonderfully produced, it reflects Buckley's style nearly perfectly.
― Brevs Mekis (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 27 October 2016 02:30 (seven years ago) link
wtf
awfully produced how
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 October 2016 03:41 (seven years ago) link
It's got space, nuance, atmosphere, quiet bits that suck you in, enormous crescendos. Yes, it's OTT and baroque and dramatic at times, gut this isn't minimal techno; it's lavish, emotional rock music. I've also always preferred his originals to the covers, so "awfully produced and relies on the covers" is a nonsensical criticism to me. I skip the covers half the time.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 27 October 2016 10:25 (seven years ago) link
for me the issue with buckley is not simply that it's ott, ott is fine in music, but that his vocal style seems like some white boy equivalent to whitney houston, even though he's actually going for nina simone.
― mystery local boy (rushomancy), Thursday, 27 October 2016 11:43 (seven years ago) link
I'm listening to "Mystery White Boy" lately and I have to admit this guy was pretty incredible.
"Dream Brother" scorches
― . (Michael B), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link
did people watch that movie about the 'greetings from tim buckley' concert slash was it any good
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
I only learned recently that Joan Wasser aka Joan as Police Woman was a good friend of him. Somehow that makes me love her music even more.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link
This previously unreleased Buckley/Lucas song, No One Can Find You Here, is spectacular. On Spotify now, from a forthcoming album by Gary Lucas and an Italian JB soundalike. Maybe I need to dig into Gary Lucas' catalogue.
― Supposed Former ILM Lurker (WeWantMiles), Thursday, 5 September 2019 12:04 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHqfMvrmPE8
was watching this today, fucking incredible
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 August 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link
i was a total jeff buckley stan in high school and... for good reason
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 August 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link
all i do in this thread is talk about how much jeff buckley meant to me in high school lol
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 August 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link
i love that frankfurt show!!
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 August 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link
I used a jeff Buckley song as an audition piece for a musical theater troupe in hs (I did not get in lol)
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Saturday, 29 August 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link
what happened to the audio at 20:05?
― Lee626, Saturday, 29 August 2020 20:18 (three years ago) link
This must have been at least a decade after his death, unless you're significantly older than I thought you were. Thanks for the link, btw.
― Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Saturday, 29 August 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link
nah it was only about four years after he died. i bought grace when i was 13, in 2000-2001 thereabouts
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 August 2020 20:54 (three years ago) link
explosive fandom started when i bought sketches the next year. i think i love the first disc of sketches even more than grace, and it helped me get through a pretty traumatic year of my life. the expanded live at sin-é which iirc came out in a little bit later (2003?) opened up so many musical worlds to me at once i consider it sort of like this life-altering rosetta stone for the future of my taste. i was so in the tank that i even acquired a few of the cash-in posthumous releases—my parents definitely bought me the box set of grace singles for christmas one year, which is how i first became acquainted with big star, that was major. jeff buckley kicked ass
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 August 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link
Love Jeff. I used to hit on this French girl by pretending not to know the translation to the words to “Je nen connais pas le fin” off the sin e EP
― calstars, Saturday, 29 August 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link
lol
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 August 2020 21:14 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxJI7hlPdnY
just... what a song. greg dulli covered this at an afghan whigs show i saw a few years ago and i died in my seat
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 August 2020 21:15 (three years ago) link
my favorite off sketches is “yard of blonde girls”
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 August 2020 21:18 (three years ago) link
that song is so crunchy and weirdly hot(????)
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 August 2020 21:22 (three years ago) link
Morning Theft is my favourite Jeff Buckley song!
― Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Saturday, 29 August 2020 21:23 (three years ago) link
gifts for boot-heels to crush, promises deceived.
― Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Saturday, 29 August 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link
meet me tomorrow night... or any day you want...
― Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Saturday, 29 August 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link
xxpost yes weirdly hot is otm - has kind of a vague sleazy 70’s classic rock vibe that i like, that he hadnt really fooled around with before. i wish he could have hung around & done more stuff in that crunchy vein unrelated: my favorite thing, period, is when he did his spoken Edith Piaf impersonation in Paris, i think it’s on the Mystery White Boy live album. he was a huge dork
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 August 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link
idg the word crunchy in relation to this.
― Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Saturday, 29 August 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link
guitar goes crunch
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 August 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link
^ gets it
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 August 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link
yer both mad.
― Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Saturday, 29 August 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link
>:(
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 August 2020 22:16 (three years ago) link
Oh look an excuse to post this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lPdj4mE6wQ
― Vernon Locke, Saturday, 29 August 2020 22:32 (three years ago) link
what a song
one of the very few songs totally ruined beyond salvage thanks to high school cringe as mentioned upthread
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Saturday, 29 August 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link
Jeff & Michael Tighe awkwardly hosting 120 minutes in 1995 - i get distracted purely by the fact that he’s smoking on camera https://youtu.be/5Y03BeeYH3k
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 August 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link
i saw him twice live in Melbourne - once at a community radio station rooftop gig in 1995, and once at the Palais in 1996. I was supposed to go to his first Australian show at The Lounge too but I was sick & my friends went & ugh regrets i have had themi was a fan, am still a fan, but after his death how he was remembered ~culturally~ didnt seem seem to have a lot to do with what it was like enjoying his music as a fan at the time & my enjoyment of him became more and more privatelike now, what, 23 years later? so much of the narrative about him now is limiting & binary, either ppl complaining about Hallelujah or claiming his sainthood.like with Cobain it was different bc he was so massive but it feels with Jeff Buckley that somehow his memory was overwritten with lots of crap that just doesnt even honor himanywayhe was fun, magnetic, weirdly humble, & also a dorky normie who liked records.
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 August 2020 23:27 (three years ago) link
oh my god that 120 minutes video is extremely goofy
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Saturday, 29 August 2020 23:33 (three years ago) link
i saw him twice live in Melbourne
God, I envy that.
― Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Saturday, 29 August 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link