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A non-ironic question from an inadequate: can anyone tell me how I can get hold of Max/DSP? It sounds like just the ticket for me - someone with originality and electro-apolmb, but a limited technical ability.

― Keither, Thursday, 26 December 2002 19:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

sound dusters

hmmm

I wonder if they sit down with 'failing in an interesting way' as a goal?

Is traditional indie music 'succeding in a boring way'?

I have to hear some of this shit.. (I mean stuff)

― Julian Standen, Monday, 30 December 2002 04:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Something bizarre has just happened. I put on Dat Politics after reading momus' essay. Then I engaged once again in the neverending discussion with my mother about generation gaps and the evolution of aestethics. Nothing fancy, she was once again complaining about my hairstyle and I wanted her to understand that kids today have fuzzy hair like mine, and girls do like it even though she doesn't. As an example, I asked, do you like this music?She always whines about my music sounding too 'metalic' and unlike 'real music'. 'Where's the melody?',she wonders.
But then about Dat Politics she said, with sincerity: 'I like it. It's got something...it's touching'

Damn!

― mario 3 (mario), Wednesday, 1 January 2003 01:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Besides, aren't sound dusters renewing R'n'B's face?people like The Neptunes and stuff. I haven't heard much of that stuff but I know a hardcore sound duster (a fan of mego, childisc and the lot who disses Momus for writing about that music just for the hip factor) who is getting heavily into that stuff

― mario 3 (mario), Friday, 3 January 2003 00:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

one month passes...

If sound-dust is the current trend, isn't this charging a reversal in the arc of sampling & electronic music? From my experience, the 'glitch' was all the rage around the late 90's, as seen in contemporary albums such as Bjork's 'Homogenic' (1997) to Kid A(2000), yet this changed to a more natural expression of sampling, incorporating electro-acoustic influences with Matmos 'A Chance to Cut Is a Chance to Cure'and Bjork's 'Vespertine'. Recently, the movement to more organic sounds continued with the minimalist micro-beats of Mum; but there has also been a retro attitude opposing this, such as the ressurgence of garage-rock in pop music, this has affected electronica too, with the sudden popularity in electroclash artists such as Fischerspooner, Peaches and Dot Alison. Though where as the continous evolution of the organic natured micro-beat movement is healthy, seemingly incorporating elements of folk and more classical musical forms, the more digital trends seem to be incorporating a more postmodern form - contemporary dance music elements with dated equipment (Casio drums, C64 SID Chips/ZX Spectrums), creating a trendy pastiche. Surely this end of the electronica spectrum can't just continue to jump from one trend to the next, some thread of progression surely has to be made, artists such as Faint who incorporate electroclash into their garage rock sound are getting pretty popular at the minute, also the Yeah Yeah Yeah's new album is supposed to have electroclash elements in to, with this progression, it will at least have some progressive form, even if it is still looking backwards to a retro style.

The reason I'm interested in the progression of the 'glitch' and 'blip' is for this is related to my current dissertation on bjork, where I'm relating the path of Bjork songs/albums to display the merging between technology and nature/organic, using the metaphor of the cyborg and the goddess, with the outcome being the cybergoddess; the musical outcome is still inconclusive, Bjork's Vespertine certainly incorporated the best of both world's, in the usage of electro-acoustic samples, but is it possible for the organic and digital to be entirely combined in a musical form?

BTW this is my first post, so go easy! ;)

― Robert Price, Thursday, 13 February 2003 11:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

what defines organic. literal matmos organ-ic, evocative organic (farben -> foot falls asleep, spreads to whole body), sample jargon organic "raw vinyl" or live instrumentation or etc etc. digital is less ambigious, the apex being maybe pan sonic/vaino/cascone and some of mego and stuff, but organic...anyway there aren't as many intestines to go around as laptops.

despite the 'all if full of love' video, i'm not sure how much bjork wants to do the cyborg persona thing... esp. on Vespertine she seems more concerned w/ bio-strangeness, psychadelic runny noses and stuff. or... the electronic angle of it seems to efface its technological implication for bodily fx. organic?

― Honda (Honda), Thursday, 13 February 2003 19:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

I can see a thread through the last two bjork albums - Vespertine was very literal way of percieving technology - influenced by the digital glitchs, cyborgs, the nature/tech dichtomy. Rather than move away from tech, she seems to have taken it up a notch on Vespertine, with post-humanism. Taking the human form to another level, the post-human form of cocoon, the usage of the abject (non-human/human boundaries) with self-mutilation (Pagan Poetry) and the abject goo of Hidden Place.

I guess at the very least, the digital manipulation of organic sounds could be seen as forming a link to the metaphor of the cybergoddess, I guess like the cybergoddess metaphor, the merging of the technological and organic/natural can take many forms.

― Robert Price (Robert Price), Sunday, 16 February 2003 13:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

five months pass...

ten- second samples of each of ten tracks are available here:

http://www.cafeshops.com/graywyvern

― graywyvern, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 19:06 (twenty years ago) link

excuse me-- 60 second samples

― graywyvern, Wednesday, 23 July 2003 19:07 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...

Huh?

― Sspeedy, Saturday, 30 August 2003 21:35 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.imomus.com/thought091202.html

Link updated

― Off, Saturday, 30 August 2003 22:02 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...

I think it's not anymore a talk of "trend".
I'm into electronic since a long time and I work as a sound engineer.
Believe me, I'm getting bored of electronic musicians who declare "this is passè" "yes, cute but we where doing this in 1800"..
Sound Dust is a quite new way of thinking music, that's it!
Believe it or not, people is doing dance music the same way they do in 1980 so what? I do not see why be disappointed about sound dust and momus article (wich I find truly inspiring).
Break beat is very passè but I do not think people can't make anymore good records with such techniuqe..
Anyway, to think of sound dust as passè trend is just tipical of DJ culture..sorry but I've noticed that DJs only USE music and then thorw it away..."passè..not trandy anymore..I don't need it"
At last we can see there is not a mainstream in sound dust and people gather toghter with laptops doing things.

so go out plug MAX/MSP, Metasynth, Supercollider, PD, SMS, KoanPRO
or write your software and do some dust!

― Giorgio S, Tuesday, 7 October 2003 23:45 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...

Momus spells millennium wrong in that essay.

― RU, Tuesday, 9 August 2005 10:30 (eighteen years ago) link

What? Are you a time travelling english teacher or something?

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link

"Are you a time travelling english teacher, or something?"

There should be a comma before "or something".

― RU, Friday, 12 August 2005 07:43 (eighteen years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

A military regime in democratic disguise
That lies in all impunity
That takes apart what it took
People years to build
Public institutions
That promised a decent life

― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 14 October 2018 19:50 (five years ago) link

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