Yes, it's still on. I don't have anything to do with it until after voting closes, but I know ballots haven't gone out yet, so nobody has missed anything.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link
cool, thanks!
― the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/authors/robert-christgau-6354191
CHristgau is writing for the Voice again. I wonder if he'll be involved
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link
thanks! (for some reason I keep thinking the initial email comes out in november)
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 22:47 (seven years ago) link
Whoa! The Voice hired Xgau back?! Why wasn't this bigger news?
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 2 December 2016 01:15 (seven years ago) link
Last year's ballot showed up Dec. 4, so they're not running late.
― dow, Friday, 2 December 2016 02:03 (seven years ago) link
I swear, every other year when I try to vote I encounter some sort of technical crap that makes it impossible, then I wind up having to re-enter everything.
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 2 December 2016 22:21 (seven years ago) link
(Sorry, that sounded bratty, given everything happening right now)
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 2 December 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link
Ballot arrived today. I'll probably submit the same top 10 I sent The Wire.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 2 December 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link
did not expect to get a ballot from someone I know from ifmud
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 2 December 2016 23:12 (seven years ago) link
"Welcome to the Village Voice's annual Music Critics Poll (formerly known as Pazz + Jop)"
RIP Pazz + Jop
― geoffreyess, Saturday, 3 December 2016 02:09 (seven years ago) link
Why would you fuck with the name? Especially for generic ass one?
― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Saturday, 3 December 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link
"NFL Annual Championship Game Between the American and National Football Conferences"
Probably some unhip marketing person going "what's a Pazz"? What's a Jop?" No one knows what means.
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 December 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link
what that means
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 December 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link
Good for them. "Pazz and Jop" is a fucking terrible name.
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 3 December 2016 22:58 (seven years ago) link
― curmudgeon, Saturday, December 3, 2016 2:17 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
whereas the hip marketing person is strutting around like 'Pazz! Jop! Zappatypow! Hoobalooba! Ramalama shakkow! Zump! Haha'
― sleepingbag, Saturday, 3 December 2016 23:11 (seven years ago) link
i agree that pazz & jop was always an awful name
― dyl, Sunday, 4 December 2016 01:25 (seven years ago) link
it had a shred or two of character though
who gives a fuck about the annual Music Critics Poll
― qualx, Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:53 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, if anything, now it sounds LESS interesting.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:55 (seven years ago) link
anyway i have no idea how i'm still getting invited to participate, i haven't done any music writing in years and i could've sworn there was a point where they were like "please resubmit your credentials" or w/e, maybe not
― qualx, Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:55 (seven years ago) link
I voted for either 2 years or maybe 3 years in the mid-00s, and then one year nobody sent me a ballot and I never bothered to find out why because I'm lazy. And now it's been a really long time since I've written anything anywhere.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:58 (seven years ago) link
Is there a VV contact more responsive and/or less inundated than the generic address through which the ballots are sent? Trying to get a colleague added to the mix.
― Andy K, Friday, 9 December 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link
Neil deMause, the Special features editor is listed on the email that was sent out but not his email
His about page just gives a form link to send messages to a general box I think
http://www.villagevoice.com/about/contact?to=6731940
― curmudgeon, Friday, 9 December 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link
deadline in 4 hours
― alpine static, Saturday, 24 December 2016 01:06 (seven years ago) link
submitted an hour late because I suck, hope it's counted
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 24 December 2016 06:23 (seven years ago) link
I submitted late too. Nous verons.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 December 2016 13:30 (seven years ago) link
perhaps it will be for the best if it isn't counted, I forgot to put swan song series on it
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Sunday, 25 December 2016 03:04 (seven years ago) link
Heck, I forgot to *listen* to Swan Song Series. It's not every year Tanya Donelly and Kristin Hersh both release insanely long albums, and I barely got to either :(
― geoffreyess, Sunday, 25 December 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link
Results tomorrow?
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 19:37 (seven years ago) link
No, it'll be in the 1/25 issue this year.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 15:01 (seven years ago) link
Two more weeks, gotcha.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 16:09 (seven years ago) link
So we won't be able to put P+J placings in the tracks poll images? What a disaster for tradition :(
― Vote! In the 2016 EOY Poll! (seandalai), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 18:29 (seven years ago) link
a liberation more like, let's excise p4k while we're at it
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link
done.
― gr8080, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 23:48 (seven years ago) link
RIP, ILM
― Bee OK, Saturday, 14 January 2017 06:02 (seven years ago) link
Hallelujah!
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 14 January 2017 06:20 (seven years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop
David Bowie- Blackstar tops the albums
and Beyoncé "Formation" tops the tracks
my comment about Tiwa Savage (featuring Dr. Sid) afropop/afrobeats track made it!
Maura, Greg Tate and SFJ have essays
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link
Not Pazz & Jop 2016
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link
So they didn't change the name.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 23:55 (seven years ago) link
I know this is even earlier, but there have been some... "developments" is exactly the opposite of the wrong word, at the Voice this year
so, uh, is this still happening
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:38 PM (eleven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Monday, 20 November 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link
pvmic
― "the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 November 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link
Last year's ballot showed up on Dec. 4.
― dow, Monday, 20 November 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
i am also curious (p+j)
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 20 November 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link
My sources say: Yes.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 20 November 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
But voting may be a lot earlier than in past years, and for scheduling reasons I may not be involved...
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 20 November 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link
why are the results for past polls impossible to find on the voice's site now?
― dyl, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 23:42 (six years ago) link
when I want results I go here:http://furia.com/pjs/ (Glenn's amazing site)
and here:https://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/pnj/
― alpine static, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 00:14 (six years ago) link
Thanks alpine! I told yall wrong about the date I got last year's ballot: Dec. 13, not Dec. 4. But I'll keep Glenn's xpost heads-up about the speed-up in mind.
― dow, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 01:37 (six years ago) link
If they move it up any more this year, that may well be the end of the road for me. The antiquarian notion that the year actually ends on Dec. 31 used to sync up well with my workaday life. The rush to get year-ends out earlier and earlier is just one more thing that makes no sense to me.
― clemenza, Friday, 24 November 2017 02:36 (six years ago) link