what that means
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 3 December 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link
Good for them. "Pazz and Jop" is a fucking terrible name.
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 3 December 2016 22:58 (seven years ago) link
Probably some unhip marketing person going "what's a Pazz"? What's a Jop?" No one knows what means.
― curmudgeon, Saturday, December 3, 2016 2:17 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
whereas the hip marketing person is strutting around like 'Pazz! Jop! Zappatypow! Hoobalooba! Ramalama shakkow! Zump! Haha'
― sleepingbag, Saturday, 3 December 2016 23:11 (seven years ago) link
i agree that pazz & jop was always an awful name
― dyl, Sunday, 4 December 2016 01:25 (seven years ago) link
it had a shred or two of character though
who gives a fuck about the annual Music Critics Poll
― qualx, Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:53 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, if anything, now it sounds LESS interesting.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:55 (seven years ago) link
anyway i have no idea how i'm still getting invited to participate, i haven't done any music writing in years and i could've sworn there was a point where they were like "please resubmit your credentials" or w/e, maybe not
― qualx, Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:55 (seven years ago) link
I voted for either 2 years or maybe 3 years in the mid-00s, and then one year nobody sent me a ballot and I never bothered to find out why because I'm lazy. And now it's been a really long time since I've written anything anywhere.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 4 December 2016 02:58 (seven years ago) link
Is there a VV contact more responsive and/or less inundated than the generic address through which the ballots are sent? Trying to get a colleague added to the mix.
― Andy K, Friday, 9 December 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link
Neil deMause, the Special features editor is listed on the email that was sent out but not his email
His about page just gives a form link to send messages to a general box I think
http://www.villagevoice.com/about/contact?to=6731940
― curmudgeon, Friday, 9 December 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link
deadline in 4 hours
― alpine static, Saturday, 24 December 2016 01:06 (seven years ago) link
submitted an hour late because I suck, hope it's counted
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 24 December 2016 06:23 (seven years ago) link
I submitted late too. Nous verons.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 December 2016 13:30 (seven years ago) link
perhaps it will be for the best if it isn't counted, I forgot to put swan song series on it
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Sunday, 25 December 2016 03:04 (seven years ago) link
Heck, I forgot to *listen* to Swan Song Series. It's not every year Tanya Donelly and Kristin Hersh both release insanely long albums, and I barely got to either :(
― geoffreyess, Sunday, 25 December 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link
Results tomorrow?
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 10 January 2017 19:37 (seven years ago) link
No, it'll be in the 1/25 issue this year.
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 15:01 (seven years ago) link
Two more weeks, gotcha.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 16:09 (seven years ago) link
So we won't be able to put P+J placings in the tracks poll images? What a disaster for tradition :(
― Vote! In the 2016 EOY Poll! (seandalai), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 18:29 (seven years ago) link
a liberation more like, let's excise p4k while we're at it
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link
done.
― gr8080, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 23:48 (seven years ago) link
RIP, ILM
― Bee OK, Saturday, 14 January 2017 06:02 (seven years ago) link
Hallelujah!
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 14 January 2017 06:20 (seven years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop
David Bowie- Blackstar tops the albums
and Beyoncé "Formation" tops the tracks
my comment about Tiwa Savage (featuring Dr. Sid) afropop/afrobeats track made it!
Maura, Greg Tate and SFJ have essays
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 18:13 (seven years ago) link
Not Pazz & Jop 2016
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 18:14 (seven years ago) link
So they didn't change the name.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 23:55 (seven years ago) link
I know this is even earlier, but there have been some... "developments" is exactly the opposite of the wrong word, at the Voice this year
so, uh, is this still happening
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:38 PM (eleven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Monday, 20 November 2017 15:38 (six years ago) link
pvmic
― "the fgti incident?" (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 November 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link
Last year's ballot showed up on Dec. 4.
― dow, Monday, 20 November 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
i am also curious (p+j)
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 20 November 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link
My sources say: Yes.
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 20 November 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
But voting may be a lot earlier than in past years, and for scheduling reasons I may not be involved...
― glenn mcdonald, Monday, 20 November 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link
why are the results for past polls impossible to find on the voice's site now?
― dyl, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 23:42 (six years ago) link
when I want results I go here:http://furia.com/pjs/ (Glenn's amazing site)
and here:https://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/pnj/
― alpine static, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 00:14 (six years ago) link
Thanks alpine! I told yall wrong about the date I got last year's ballot: Dec. 13, not Dec. 4. But I'll keep Glenn's xpost heads-up about the speed-up in mind.
― dow, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 01:37 (six years ago) link
If they move it up any more this year, that may well be the end of the road for me. The antiquarian notion that the year actually ends on Dec. 31 used to sync up well with my workaday life. The rush to get year-ends out earlier and earlier is just one more thing that makes no sense to me.
― clemenza, Friday, 24 November 2017 02:36 (six years ago) link
I think it has to do with people ceasing to care about last year once the new year has started.
― President Keyes, Friday, 24 November 2017 02:46 (six years ago) link
Maybe--which is actually pretty weird, since the calendar year is such an artificial construct anyway. And it's also almost like giving out sports MVP awards with two weeks left to go in the season.
But I guess I prefer that to the idea that every publication is simply being driven by what every other publication does.
― clemenza, Friday, 24 November 2017 04:01 (six years ago) link
The truth is, I'm just looking at this in terms of my own participation and nothing else.
― clemenza, Friday, 24 November 2017 04:03 (six years ago) link
The antiquarian notion...
Found only in rare and expensive books, I guess--let's go with antiquated instead.
― clemenza, Sunday, 26 November 2017 04:59 (six years ago) link
Unless I've been dropped from the list--something that should have happened 15 years ago, and since it didn't happen then, I'm not sure why it would happen now--I assume this is the end of Rico.
― clemenza, Saturday, 16 December 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link
I've gotten nothing either.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 December 2017 22:03 (six years ago) link
Knowing nothing about how these things work, I always assumed it'd be the one thing that would remain till the last online edition--that it was one thing they could reasonably expect would generate some ad sales. I really am living in some 1987 time warp.
― clemenza, Saturday, 16 December 2017 22:05 (six years ago) link
When it comes to the "media landscape," I mean. Mostly I live in a 1972 time warp.
― clemenza, Saturday, 16 December 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link
Glenn, upthread, thought they would start earlier this year, but that hasn't happened.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 17 December 2017 06:19 (six years ago) link
I bowed out of tabulating, so I no longer have any inside info on when, how or if this is going to happen...
― glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 17 December 2017 07:58 (six years ago) link
There's talk that it's coming.
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 17 December 2017 13:04 (six years ago) link
Of course, I just realized that earlier this year I deleted the Hotmail account where my ballot used to be sent.
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 17 December 2017 13:33 (six years ago) link
did some searching and found ballot dates for the last 5 years, looks like it kept getting earlier til now
12/27/1212/11/1312/10/1412/4/1512/2/16
― geoffreyess, Sunday, 17 December 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
Yeah, as far as I could squint into my ancient and apparently almost bottomless inbox, got the same impression. There have been several years when ballots showed up after Xmas, pretty sure. If nothing by New Year's Day, let's post out lists here, okay?
― dow, Sunday, 17 December 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link