Rolling Metal 2016

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It's not until next February, but holy shit...

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/files/2016/12/Stardust-VI-e1480622322912.jpg

$100 for a four-day pass is almost criminal.
I am trying to finagle ways to get there.
I never thought I would get to see Aluk Todolo!
They are playing *two* nights.
Doing Voix one evening and Occult Rock the other.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 8 December 2016 00:09 (seven years ago) link

not exactly metal, but if anyone was looking for some cool female-fronted pop-grunge(?!)

https://bloodpeople.bandcamp.com/album/blood-people

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 December 2016 12:11 (seven years ago) link

RIYL Hole, Dead Sara

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 December 2016 12:17 (seven years ago) link

RIYL Hole, Dead Sara

*sits up* *pays attention*

summervillain, Thursday, 8 December 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link

i wonder if this means Aluk Todolo will tour the U.S.

never mind, i went and looked on FB, where someone said "come to San Francisco" and the band replied "working on that"

alpine static, Thursday, 8 December 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link

Digging this one

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/kairon-irse-mem-oranssi-pazuzu-releasing-new-lp-stream-starik/

Early next year, Finland’s Kairon; IRSE! are planning to release a new album, Ruination, which was produced by Oranssi Pazuzu frontman Juho Vanhanen. (Kairon’s Niko Lehdontie also plays guitar in Oranssi Pazuzu’s live lineup.) The album’s new single “Starik,” which premieres in this post, is wacky prog that sounds like early King Crimson mixed with Ornette Coleman-style sax freakouts, and the seven and a half minute song even brings in some jazz fusion at the end without getting corny.

Dinsdale, Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:38 (seven years ago) link

Interesting, I have their previous album which is a decent post-rock/shoegaze hybrid, sounds like they've changed a bit. More prog than metal but still, cheers.

ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 8 December 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link

That's nice. I'm gonna buy the shit out of that.

rudy githyanki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 9 December 2016 10:47 (seven years ago) link

Fuck, new Teitanblood EP coming out on the 13th. And I just saw a more-or-less unreleased Shape of Despair demo at the store. And a True Werwolf comp. Looks like we're going to have to nom stuff from December in next year's poll again.

rudy githyanki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 10 December 2016 10:49 (seven years ago) link

do they seriously have a fucking SEMICOLON in their band name? that does not seem very metal to me.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Saturday, 10 December 2016 12:18 (seven years ago) link

lol these guys

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 10 December 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link

do they seriously have a fucking SEMICOLON in their band name? that does not seem very metal to me.

It's just a sideways umlaut that's bleeding out of one dot dude.

rudy githyanki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 10 December 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link

Once upon a time Ratt were a metal band, so I'm putting this here: the new Stephen Pearcy solo album, Smash, is really good. It's classicist (but not retro) hard rock, with some great riffs that steal from unexpected sources (yeah, he's ripping off Led Zeppelin, but it's Physical Graffiti, not IV), and his vocals are as strong as ever...assuming you like his voice, which I kinda do. His 2008 solo album Under My Skin was good, too, but on first listen this one might be even better.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 01:33 (seven years ago) link

Whoa, here's the first of many albums I will regret not hearing in time to nominate for the poll.

http://arriver.bandcamp.com/

Don't even know how to describe them but the end of The Demon Core has these waves of guitar that verge on Rhys Chatham or Chris Forsyth or something. Death metal but not exceedingly brutal. Maybe comparable to the last Emptiness album?

rudy githyanki (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 11:41 (seven years ago) link

So according to a press release I just got, Darkest Hour will be releasing a new album in March...on Southern Lord.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link

Really liked Arriver's 'TSUSHIMA' - thanks for the tip.

BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 13 December 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link

Listening to the debut album by Portuguese death metal band The Ominous Circle, Appalling Ascension. It's super heavy creepy-crawl stuff in the vein of Immolation and Aevangelist. Out January 27 on 20 Buck Spin. Two tracks are on Soundcloud:

http://soundcloud.com/20-buck-spin/the-ominous-circle-poison-fumes

http://soundcloud.com/20-buck-spin/the-ominous-circle-from-endless-chasms

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link

Power Trip + Iron Reagan dates:

2/24 Houston, TX @ Walter's
2/25 New Orleans, LA @ Siberia
2/26 Birmingham, AL @ Saturn
2/27 Raleigh, NC @ King's w/ Genocide Pact
2/28 Richmond, VA @ The Broadberry w/ Genocide Pact, Concealed Blade
3/1 Baltimore, MD @ Baltimore Soundstage w/ Genocide Pact, Concealed Blade
3/2 New York, NY @ The Marlin Room w/ Concealed Blade, Krimewatch
3/3 Pittsburgh, PA @ Spirit Hall w/ Concealed Blade, Protester
3/4 Cleveland, OH @ Now That's Class w/ Concealed Blade, Krimewatch
3/8 Montreal, QC @ Les Foufounes Electriques
3/9 Ottawa, ON @ The Brass Monkey
3/10 Toronto, ON @ Velvet Underground
3/11 Detroit, MI @ Marble Bar
3/12 Chicago, IL @ Reggie's
3/13 Minneapolis, MN @ Triple Rock Social Club
3/14 Des Moines, IA @ Vaudeville Mews
3/16 Kansas City, MO @ Riot Room
3/16 Oklahoma City, OK @ 89th Street Collective

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 December 2016 00:49 (seven years ago) link

This one starts with a pretty long and interesting intro essay from Michael Nelson. I'm curious what you all think.

http://www.stereogum.com/1914718/the-40-best-metal-albums-of-2016/franchises/2016-in-review/

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 15 December 2016 03:59 (seven years ago) link

dude is one of my least favorite music writers and that first sentence is not convincing me to go further

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 December 2016 05:29 (seven years ago) link

lol yeah i was done after that sentence.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 15 December 2016 05:32 (seven years ago) link

These may sound like minor developments, and maybe taken individually they are minor developments. Maybe they’re not even that. Maybe, in fact, you could frame all these things as net positives.

maybe nothing is something. maybe something is nothing. maybe

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 15 December 2016 05:34 (seven years ago) link

maybe yes. maybe no. maybe fuck yourself.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 15 December 2016 05:35 (seven years ago) link

I like Mike a lot, but his reasons for omitting a Metallica album he says is very good are baffling.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 15 December 2016 05:43 (seven years ago) link

I guess because of a couple quotes from interviews where they say they don't enjoy discussing politics. Hate to break it to him, but that's probably just as true with most of the other bands he rated. It's just that they're not famous enough where there's multiple interviews expecting them to issue statements on their political views.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 15 December 2016 06:25 (seven years ago) link

I like Mike as a person (full disclosure, for those who don't already know: I write for Stereogum pretty regularly), but that essay was pretty damn muddled. The actual list has a few great records on it, a bunch of things I have no interest in even investigating, and a few other things I'm definitely gonna check out. But it wound up reinforcing my own decision not to do year-end lists for Burning Ambulance, and convincing me that my idea to do a year-end essay instead was misguided, so I'm not even doing that.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:12 (seven years ago) link

That's too bad, I'd read it. Even if you went out on a limb to say something wacky!

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 15 December 2016 13:53 (seven years ago) link

First record I woulda coulda nominated - Clandestine Sacrament by the underwhelmingly named Death Fetishist - which on this record, at least, is a weird BM supergroup with members of Aevangelist, Mispyrming, Pyrrhon, Gnaw Their Tongues. Murky but spacious.

https://dmp666.bandcamp.com/album/clandestine-sacrament

summervillain, Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:01 (seven years ago) link

I can kind of understand his disappointment in Metallica, however - explicitly bringing politics into your music as a middle-aged artist is such a tightrope act that it's not surprising that most don't bother. And besides, it wasn't their occasional political lyrics that made them good in the past. Sure it helped that their young and angry fanbase could identify with them, but do that now and you'll risk looking like Dave Mustaine.

Siegbran, Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:09 (seven years ago) link

That said, I think the Megadeth album this year wasn't bad and if anything Dave's unhinged conspiracy thinking actually enhances the experience.

Siegbran, Thursday, 15 December 2016 15:12 (seven years ago) link

I don't need Metallica to write political songs, nor do I care that (and I don't know why Nelson didn't just come out and say this in his piece) Lars Ulrich is a typically Scandinavian lefty and Hetfield is a (pretty well-documented, if you know where to look) redneck Republican, basically a quieter Ted Nugent.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:11 (seven years ago) link

they maybe do avoid talking politics simply because they want to avoid arguments as chances are they all know each others politics and differ as phil just said.

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link

That stereogum article makes a claim with which I could not disagree more strongly:

I think music benefits from having ubiquitous figures inspiring universal debate. I think prominent artists push forward the entire art form. I think metal today lacks standard-bearers — and maybe even standards — and as such, it fails to meaningfully engage with the culture at large. Right now, it barely seems to understand how to substantively connect with its most-devoted community members. You can be a serious metal enthusiast and probably not give a shit about a single one of the 40 albums on Decibel’s list — or our list, for that matter. And while I understand how we got here, I think that’s ultimately probably not a great development for metal.

Like, every claim here, I think is horseshit. The music this guy is looking for is called pop, and there's plenty of it. Metal is great when it's diffuse, not when we're all swooning because our favorite artists trended on Twitter today.

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:58 (seven years ago) link

Heh, i agree with you smithy. over on the voting thread I highlighted that quote and responded to it

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:05 (seven years ago) link

no, wait. It was here and theres been a lot of replies to it which i found interesting
Thread for all 2016 albums of the year lists

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link

it's such an inimical-to-the-entire-spirit-and-history-of-the-genre position. standard-bearers are boring. universalized discourse is boring. there's ample supply of both in mainstream culture; I don't come to metal for the metal version of things I can already get from mainstream culture.

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:12 (seven years ago) link

I think a lot of people do prefer the maidens and metallicas because of that though. Most people do stick with what they know rather than look for new bands trying things.

Some of course like both and thats what keeps the genre going. Metal has traditions and everyones expected to know the lineage and the classic bands/albums. Which i like but its very unhealthy if you only listen to the old established

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link

yeah but...when those were new, they weren't The Leaders -- Maiden, Priest -- they were The Really Successful Ones. Meanwhile, at a much lower level during the NWOBHM, bands like Manilla Road and the Tygers of Pan Tang (and Satan, whose Court in the Act can proudly stand next to any NWOBHM album). In the clubs, on the packed-van-package-tours, in tape trading, through the mail, away from How Does This Impact/Intersect With Popular Culture discussions -- as far away from those discussions as possible -- that's where metal was made, that's where it thrives, that's its DNA. Not at the God damned Grammys or whatever.

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link

sentence needs finished! should read

Meanwhile, at a much lower level during the NWOBHM, bands like Manilla Road and the Tygers of Pan Tang (and Satan, whose Court in the Act can proudly stand next to any NWOBHM album) were making records that inspired and entertained and dazzled everybody who cared and NOBODY who didn't -- Diamond Head was interesting to people who loved the genre and had nothing at all to say to "the culture at large," thank God. Nor did Mercyful Fate, one of the best bands of all time. Etc etc

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link

I do agree with you

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:33 (seven years ago) link

otm overall. my favorite band for years was Immolation, who have no real crossover appeal, but as a genre enthusiast like I am, they are one of the best of the business to me...

that there is no one torchbearer largely speaks to the depth and the scope of the genre more than anything. I love seeing two different metalheads' top 40 lists where neither intersect

Neanderthal, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link

that was the great thing with metallica ans reign in blood era slayer in that they appealed to both the underground fans and culture at large.

somewhere thats been lost. I think a lot of peoples disconnect was when Pantera went to #1 in the USA at a time metal did go underground as it was unfashionable. Millions loved that stuff but many did not .

Not picking on pantera or anything I just think thats when the disconnect happened for many. Im sure it had been there gaining steam for a while.

Pantera did seem to really symbolise metal having to be extreme to be metal. That whole the only band flagwaving in the 90s for metal.

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:37 (seven years ago) link

I stopped worrying about being part of the commercial Zeitgeist about 20 years ago watching Oasis at Loch Lomond with 50,000 singing along to every word of bsides. After that you realise you can just do your own thing as you get older.

You dont need to belong to anything at a certain age but you dont have to stop liking new music either.

Im not interested in watching metallica and maiden yearning for the good old days of my youth when music was great and theres no good bands now.

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:40 (seven years ago) link

Or indeed Oasis as they fit that kind of thing too haha

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link

I disagree with Aero, obviously. I used to work for Roadrunner Records - I had a professional interest in metal bands winning Grammys, selling as many albums as possible, etc., etc. But even when I didn't, I never liked the whole "the underground is where it's really at/this is not for you, square" mindset - at least, not after I graduated high school. I don't only like huge bands, but I always want the bands I like to get huge. I like discovering things, but I also like sharing them with people. The whole point of writing about a record, after all, is to make sure that as many people know about it as possible. It's a gesture of outreach. And I'd much rather be in an arena full of people whose ages span a 30-year range, all screaming along to "The Number of the Beast," than in a dank, stinking basement club watching five death metal bands play. The underground is not my idea of fun, and hasn't been for a long time.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:43 (seven years ago) link

I agree with you that I like bands I love to get more successful, why else do we share tips to everyone? But as smithy says metal thrived on that kind of word of mouth as much as it did by winning grammys and that winning grammys isnt the be all and end all.

Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:49 (seven years ago) link

personally I selfishly root for bands to not become too popular because I am cheap and don't like big crowds

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:52 (seven years ago) link

But it wound up reinforcing my own decision not to do year-end lists for Burning Ambulance

Will you post a list here at least? I like seeing the Burning Ambulance list.

jmm, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:53 (seven years ago) link

yeah I mean I like for musicians to get paid - I have a stake in that, myself - but I disagree with the "get as big as is possible" mindset, and have for my whole career -- a career which would have been much shorter had I taken the advice of label people in the mid-90s, who, to a man, all told me I needed to get into a fancy studio and polish my lo-fi gems to a don't-you-want-to-reach-the-most-people shine. I didn't like the sound of that, and now we have a still-comparably-small audience...but for several of us, it's still our main day job, and it keeps the lights on. There's plenty of middle ground between playing a shitty closet and playing in mid-sized clubs where you've found an audience that'll follow you through many different inspirations. not all jazz has to be Diana Krall, and metal's most exciting to me when the conversation is about what's bubbling under and getting born, not what's-your-take-on-the-thing-everybody's-talking-about.

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link


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