you do realise this was written by a sometime ilxor who wasn't working at vice years ago when it was what you accuse it of
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 17:42 (seven years ago) link
waht's a "warmbody" tone
― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Saturday, 17 December 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
I have little idea who wrote it beyond —The Noisey Editorial Staff but I will assume this person is aware of what it was when it was what it was, so djp's point still stands
― forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kMPR6P4fBj0/UDfBS-EF-YI/AAAAAAAAAAU/z__Xq6dOSTw/s1600/becks-love-music-hate-racism1.jpg
― forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 17:57 (seven years ago) link
Isn't it better that it has changed into this? I dont see how that makes any of the points less valid
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link
https://images.vice.com/noisey/content-images/article/noisey-best-and-worst-of-2015-dan-ozzi/dan-ozzi-best-of.jpg
You know those days you wake up for work and think "I can't do this. I cannot face the filth bucket that is humanity today?" I had one of those this summer and instead of going to an office, I hopped a train to the beach, and sat there all day alone, doing nothing but enjoying the sun and the ocean and listening to this album. I will forever hear it and tie it to that memory. I highly advise you to force yourself off your daily path once in a while.https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/noisey-best-and-worst-of-2015-dan-ozzi
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/noisey-best-and-worst-of-2015-dan-ozzi
sometimes you fight like fuck, sometimes you just ditch your office job and sit on the beach doing nothing
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link
uuuuugh didn't that guy also do that horrible lecherous celeb interview thing
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link
Xp if and when there is evidence of this relentless new direction you are free to vote "yes". I have tried to leave a sufficient window for people to make up their minds
I am pro taking a beach day
― forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link
yeah w/ natalie imbruglia. awful writer
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link
performatively
woke
― lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link
PAY YOUR WRITERS MORE
you know what i really resent? outlets calling for more marginalised voices - which mostly means young and inexperienced - and using their experiences for a diversity effect while paying them absolute shit, taking advantage of their lack of knowledge/ability to ask for money they can actually live on
― lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:17 (seven years ago) link
he didn't mention fighting like fuck to actually pay people
― Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link
provide a platform and outlet but not, actually, a fair rate of pay
― lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:19 (seven years ago) link
in fairness to noisey they are far from alone in this
― lex pretend, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link
As I wrote on the other thread
Whiney G. WeingartenPosted: December 16, 2016 at 8:42:04 PMMy personal favorite part is the open call for Muslims and immigrants to provide them with content, presumably at the same slave wages that Vice writers get
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link
Yes it is very much better that the millions of dollars made on ironic racism and Terry Richardson blowing loads on teenagers eventually went to self-aggrandinzing woke soapboxing, what a time to be alive
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:24 (seven years ago) link
My friend went to a Vice party in the Aughties and told me the DJ played nothing but Skrewdriver and nobody was the wiser
Now Noisey had articles about how wearing Skrewdriver shirts is problematic. YOUVE COME A LONG WAY BABY
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link
lol
― forgive me fader for I have sinned (wins), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:35 (seven years ago) link
would not assume "nobody was the wiser" tho tbf
from the CEO loudly bragging about fucking an intern with two dicks in one rubber to fighting like fuck for marginalized voices, truly this is a sincere battle being fought and not one rooted in the grotesque commerce of mining social justice for capitalism
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link
haven't music publications been mining social justice for capitalism for a long time? Isn't that part of the Rolling Stone story?
― sarahell, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:39 (seven years ago) link
beats me
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 17:42 Bookmark
wight dorke i knew it
― r|t|c, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link
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― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:48 (seven years ago) link
actually i dont know if the person im thinking of wrote it, i just saw that person share it
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link
who works for noisey obviously
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http://media.salon.com/2015/08/They-Live.jpg
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link
lol wight dorke
― sarahell, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link
more like
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/hellraiser/images/4/4a/960.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160204075810
― Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link
It wasnt him, i dont know him
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 17 December 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link
― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:47 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
just like the platitudinous zombified cut-and-dry voice of takes far and wide. like, Vice tone is indistinguishable from salon, huffpo, slate to me now. for all the awful things about 00's-Vice (the ironic racism--at least among hipsters--seems thoroughly out of style but the unironic racism of McInnes seems a throughline to alt-right in hindsight) the writing had a distinct voice. maybe it was ripped off from 90s zines or whatever but it was strongly associated with Vice and the foundation of the brand
on the 'paying workers slave wages' front, they've recently unionized, so, maybe something will happen with that
― flopson, Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link
This means the staff gets decent salaries, and benefits; their freelance rates are at the low end of average. Each of the 3 stories I've written for them has paid $125. Bandcamp pays 3x that.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link
surely the fighting like fuck makes up for it?
― Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 17 December 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link
http://www.vice.com/en_ca/read/inside-the-sad-world-of-racist-online-dating
this is good content to fight fascism
― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Monday, 19 December 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link
the ironic racism--at least among hipsters--seems thoroughly out of style but the unironic racism of McInnes seems a throughline to alt-right in hindsight)
I mean, this was obvious at the time.
― ¶ (DJP), Monday, 19 December 2016 20:03 (seven years ago) link
Xp "it's hard out there for a racist" hmmm
― fuck like fight like fuck (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 19 December 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link
― sarahell, Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:39 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, December 17, 2016 12:41 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol yeah I was going to say, Rolling Stone really hit its stride by providing political commentary of a sort that wasn't widespread AT THE SAME TIME they were pronouncing god status on rock dudes who were fucking fourteen year olds
― mh 😏, Monday, 19 December 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link
Much like what Pulp Fiction did with John Travolta in the early 90s, 2016 has thrust white nationalism back to the forefront of our collective psyche, forcing our society to—again, much like Travolta—stare continuously into its insane, twinkling, dead eyes.
thinking aout what lex was saying on the other thread about Vice (well, Noisey) being performatively woke while not actually paying writers well enough to make writing for them worthwhile, but this is more an argument of how you get what you pay for
― boxedjoy, Monday, 19 December 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link
Lol I wasn't specifically referring to noisey, though perhaps it also applies
― lex pretend, Monday, 19 December 2016 23:43 (seven years ago) link
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/welcome-to-the-guide-to-life
smh "start a podcast"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 23 January 2017 21:40 (seven years ago) link
Do You Have Something To Say? Make a Game
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/v0RdU1A7jiQ/maxresdefault.jpg
― the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 21:51 (seven years ago) link
An actually useful guide to life would tell people not to bother doing any of these things
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 23 January 2017 21:59 (seven years ago) link
We'll continue publishing explainers on the things you need as you figure out how to live as your best self in this new era.
can i get an over/under on the chances of them publishing an explainer on how to get involved in local politics?
― the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:05 (seven years ago) link
not that 'throwing a diy rave' won't shake entrenched power structures to their very core in and of itself but still
― the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:06 (seven years ago) link
it's on waypoint, their games vertical, what are they supposed to run
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:09 (seven years ago) link
like, a few days ago people were calling out pitchfork for running political content that has nothing to do with music, and now here's a games site called out for running content about games
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:10 (seven years ago) link
i feel like if you make a huge self-important statement about 'fighting like fuck' and then the best you can do to follow up is dribble out some tepid garbage about starting a band then you deserve to be clowned relentlessly from sea to shining sea
― the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 23 January 2017 22:16 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/KKOpPgZ.png
― marcos, Monday, 23 January 2017 22:20 (seven years ago) link
watch this next
the saddest beef
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link
I was talking about Vice
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:39 (four years ago) link
I was at a vice party on a boat in Barcelona (free booze) in the 00s and there was a Spanish hipster with a shirt that said "no soy creyente en el virús del SIDA" ("I am not a believer in the AIDS virus") on it and that seemed very on brand
― Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link
i’m ironically jizzing on a picture of saddam hussein stumbling over a stack of vice magazines with the mirror cover while a band that looks like the strokes takes a picture of me with their phones and posts it to carles’ blog
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:48 (four years ago) link
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, December 17, 2016 1:26 PM (three years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:52 (four years ago) link
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/wjg34w/how-to-know-if-you-are-a-hipster-racist
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:23 (four years ago) link
Ended up voting “no”
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 27 August 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link
But they still got two more months..........
― more haim than good (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 28 August 2020 11:47 (three years ago) link
We are going to start every week by re-reading this letter. We are going to remember our outrage at this moment and let it fuel our direction over the next four years. We are never going to let ourselves get complacent. We are never going to let the flames of resistance burn out.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 25 October 2020 03:02 (three years ago) link
some small part of me wished you got on their editorial staff before this poll expired.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 25 October 2020 04:42 (three years ago) link
all hands meeting on monday, we're going to review some key directives
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Sunday, 25 October 2020 04:44 (three years ago) link
but also let's get some clicks out there!
― president of my cat (Karl Malone), Sunday, 25 October 2020 04:45 (three years ago) link
Have they fart like fuck yet
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 25 October 2020 05:21 (three years ago) link
always, fart like fuck, always
― sarahell, Sunday, 25 October 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Monday, 2 November 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link
*bites nails*
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Monday, 2 November 2020 00:40 (three years ago) link
vote twice for justice
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 2 November 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link
anyone here ever been to kokie's? i always associate the legend of that place with the vice of yore
― treeship., Monday, 2 November 2020 03:22 (three years ago) link
i walked past it many times and laughed but no i never went there iirc.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 2 November 2020 08:42 (three years ago) link
Judging by the torrent of angry anti-Noisey Trump tweets over the years, yeah they did they work and fought like fuck. They really got under his skin.
― Matt DC, Monday, 2 November 2020 09:34 (three years ago) link
wish the results to this poll could be read out in the Curtis narrator voice tomorrow
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Monday, 2 November 2020 11:59 (three years ago) link
I think this is the nicest thing I've ever said about Vice/Vice contributers:
Not everyone who writes for Vice is entirely terrible, some people just wanna get paid by dicks― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Saturday, March 30, 2013 8:23 PM bookmarkflaglink
― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Saturday, March 30, 2013 8:23 PM bookmarkflaglink
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 2 November 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link
nearly everyone who gets paid to do anything is paid by at least a few dicks
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, 2 November 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link
sometimes also some vaginas
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 2 November 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link
don't forget the assholes
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, 2 November 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link
one assumes the assholes are always there
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 2 November 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link
i get paid by puppies
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 November 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link
(and I mean actual dogs u pervs)
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 November 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 2 November 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link
had some prepositional confusion there -- wondering the exchange rate of dicks to dollars vs dollars to donuts
― sarahell, Monday, 2 November 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
don't GIS "dicks to donuts"
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link
worst Harry Potter spell
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link
"eat a dick" now a confusing insult
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link
feel like this is going to be a landslide, polls are ignoring shy dave cool voters
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 November 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link
Was at a vice party on a boat once in the 00s and there was like a roulette table or something, and I just remember seeing a vice exec nonchalantly peeling off bills from a scrooge-mcduck wad of 100s the size of a grapefruit. I've spent the last 12 years wondering if it was real or movie prop money or what.
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 2 November 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link
every day since then i've moved forward, done the work, and fought like fuck to figure it out
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 2 November 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link
oh place your dicks to donutsand pray
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 2 November 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link
this is like Mickey Rourke in The Wrestler
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link
i do not remember what poll option i chose 4 years ago
― sarahell, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 00:36 (three years ago) link
What all those immigrants about to be deported should really do is learn how to make an indie video game
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, January 23, 2017 5:44 PM bookmarkflaglink
repression quest
― the greg evigan school of improvised explosive devices (bizarro gazzara), Monday, January 23, 2017 5:45 PM bookmarkflaglink
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 03:51 (three years ago) link
no
Breaking News: Vice, the brash digital-media disrupter that has struggled to find a buyer, is preparing to file for bankruptcy, according to two people. https://t.co/Ydz7ofzIpy— The New York Times (@nytimes) May 1, 2023
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 07:31 (one year ago) link
lol i had forgotten the poll closed 4 years ago and saw this thread bumped and thought, "oh, did the poll finally close? what were the results?"
― sarahell, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 11:15 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc7_1GAYNOw
― Marvel Puzzle Quest is my favorite gasm (DJP), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 13:38 (one year ago) link
it’s funny how the narrative used to be evil vice paving DBA and putting up a cynical corporate newsroom and now it’s about how this plucky independent media outlet is getting destroyed by corporate behemoths. perhaps the truth … is somewhere in between ….
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 13:48 (one year ago) link