Yeah I don't think I've ever had a missing download code when it was promised.
― Evan, Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link
Don't most scanners, printers need a disc drive to install the necessary software?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link
I use a CD player to play CDs. They work like a charm.
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link
Guess how much the CD player I have at the store weighs. Go ahead, guess. Give up? 25 pounds. That's around 11 kilos for you Canadians.
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link
My laptop's external CD drive sits on a shelf in my office, right next to the external hard drive where I store my AAC files. I can lay hands on either one of these items in seconds when I need them. If someone was, say, a hoarder living in a garbage house, though, I could see how keeping track of things might be difficult, and cause one to just groan loudly and throw up one's hands when it came time to rip a CD.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:20 (seven years ago) link
I don't live in a garbage house but I do live in 60 square feet and a common area I'm not allowed to spend more than an hour per day in
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link
it must be nice to have such a thing as a "house," a relic from the good old days when there were also such things as "jobs" and "paychecks"
What's the best free CD-burning software these days? (Or should I buy something?)
― _Rudipherous_, Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link
Which label decided to get rid of download codes? Was it Numero Group? Anyway, there was some amazing stat that like less than 5% of people cashed them in. So they got rid. I assume it'd be the same with CDs.
No disc drive is a royal pain in the arse, but we'll adapt, I guess.
― Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:26 (seven years ago) link
I've lived in the same one-bedroom apartment for over 10 years. Decadent luxury, I know.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link
a one-bedroom apartment would be the height of luxury at this point, but until then I'm OK resenting the neverending shunting of basic functionality to peripheral devices
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link
You're both making me feel well off for a change, but rent buys a lot more in the "War Zone" in Albuquerque than it does most other places. (Not nearly as bad as its name suggests, though I wouldn't walk far at all at night.)
― _Rudipherous_, Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link
I'm on my second external optical drive at this point -- went and got a handy Samsung Blu-ray drive last year that plugs directly into a USB port on my MacMini, no other power source needed. Very helpful and add in a third party software thing to actually use Blu-ray on my Mac as a bonus and I'm set (and lucky, per K's comments in general).
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:58 (seven years ago) link
Oh good! Thanks for the info I'd been wondering if there was a nice, mac compatible blu-ray supporting external drive out there.
― Evan, Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:59 (seven years ago) link
It is but as mentioned, you'll need to get separate software. I went ahead and bought this, does the trick just fine.
http://www.macblurayplayer.com/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 December 2016 19:08 (seven years ago) link
yeah to be clear so far I have no complaints about the quality of the external drive I'm using, just the fact that it has to be external
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Thursday, 22 December 2016 19:12 (seven years ago) link
Agreed there.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 December 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link
Ripping cds is technically illegal here in the UK. Wasn't for about a year, but is again now. So i'd like cds to come with a download code, but they mostly don't.
Often buying things on bandcamp will get you a download code when you pay and another included in the physical version when it turns up.
― koogs, Thursday, 22 December 2016 19:52 (seven years ago) link
Interesting. If I saw a CD with a download code a few years ago (when CD drives were still more common) I'd have been baffled. Ripping a CD to back it up just seems like such an innocent task. Distributing the digital copy to others is when legality comes into question.
― Evan, Thursday, 22 December 2016 20:00 (seven years ago) link
like, great, I can play the CD while I'm in my living room, and if I really want to listen to it on my phone or at work I guess I can spend another 75% of the CD price for something I've already paid for, or I can dig out the old portable CD drive for my laptop and try to find all the cables and spend a while fighting with EAC settings and wait through 20 minutes of rumbling while it rips, or... yeah I'll just steal the thing I've already bought, fine
― a passing spacecadet, Thursday, December 22, 2016 5:14 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is me, many many times
― Wimmels, Friday, 23 December 2016 14:52 (seven years ago) link
lots of things to hate about amazon, but their autorip feature where you get mp3s when you buy a CD (sometimes for less than buying just the mp3s!) is pretty nice.
― mizzell, Friday, 23 December 2016 14:55 (seven years ago) link
yeah that is cool
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 December 2016 15:14 (seven years ago) link
^^It's even cooler when AutoRip hooks you up with a nicer version of whatever you bought, as I rediscovered when I picked up the 2-disc Fleetwood Mac Mirage, and they threw in MP3s of the live disc from the deluxe box for free.
― "I must believe that my charm was not in my ass." (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 December 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link
Now that's a nice bonus!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 December 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link
Autorip is a cool feature. I wish they'd make them 320 rips, though.
― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Friday, 23 December 2016 22:47 (seven years ago) link
Seriously
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 24 December 2016 00:43 (seven years ago) link
you kids and your burning and your ripping...
― scott seward, Saturday, 24 December 2016 00:54 (seven years ago) link
Those space saving sleeves do work pretty well. I'm through about 700 out of a case of 1000 and it has opened up quite a bit of space on the shelves for other Cds. Mostly I have been putting them in the bag when I rip the CD as a uncompressed wav file into my library. I've been working on that for a couple of years whenever I feel like it and have probably have a aprox 1.7 tb uncompressed music ripped at this point. I'd figure that to be probably 2000-2500 CDs ripped and I probably got over 4000 at this point. It's pretty much pure lunacy, but I could not imagine having to keep all of this around in LPs. I only have a couple hundred vinyl records.
― earlnash, Saturday, 24 December 2016 02:15 (seven years ago) link
> a uncompressed wav
What about the metadata, though? Won't someone think of the metadata?!
I use abcde on Linux to rip to flac and ogg at the same time, flacs go into the archive, oggs onto the sansa.
All needs a massive reorg though.
― koogs, Saturday, 24 December 2016 07:41 (seven years ago) link
I've been using dBpoweramp for a few years to rip my CDs which does apply an editable metadata on the files. That said, I don't really use a database reader for playback on my main music PC. I've been using Foobar2000 for quite a few years for playback, mostly as it's such a stripped down and efficient player and doesn't have all the bells and whistles. My music is in good shape organization wise and I keep a spreadsheet on it all, which is enough for me. I got a converter and a directory and will export wavs into MP3 every so often to put on thumb drives for external listening.
I'd perhaps ripped them as .aiff had I ever became a Mac person, but I have worked in IT with Windows for so long, I've never really crossed that line. Every time I price out a Powerbook or something, I go price out a comparable Windows laptop and I can't make the leap.
― earlnash, Monday, 2 January 2017 03:00 (seven years ago) link
I carted off the giant floor-to-ceiling CD shelves I built in 2001 to Goodwill today. Made my choices awhile ago.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 5 January 2017 07:00 (seven years ago) link
big fan of grabbing CDs at random from the world music section of the library, always end up with cool stuff.
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 January 2017 14:49 (seven years ago) link
Isn't it weird that in a near future most people may not own collections of music, movies and literature? They'll still listen, watch and read, but through subscriptions - there'll be no physical (maybe not even digital) collections to look at in their living rooms. Otoh there's only really been movie collections for what ~30 years or something. Personal/private music collections for ~100 years? Book collections must be the oldest, and perhaps the ones that'll last longest.
there may be another thread for this
― niels, Saturday, 28 January 2017 15:44 (seven years ago) link
Glad I've built up a substantial library of all three. I'll never trust downloads/streaming/subscriptions--whatever is given there can be taken away. Plus I'd imagine at least a quarter of what I listen to most isn't on any subscription service, probably a lot higher than that. Also besides the ethics, given that subscriptions/streaming don't seem to pay artists/producers a meaningful amount.
― Soundslike, Saturday, 28 January 2017 15:56 (seven years ago) link
Really don't like the idea of people only having subscriptions. If you're a kid and you're parents won't pay for it, that would suck. Or people who love music but don't like the internet.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 28 January 2017 15:59 (seven years ago) link
I just bought a physical copy of the Kehlani album #luddite
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 January 2017 16:03 (seven years ago) link
As long as there are physical CDs, I will be buying them. Books, too. DVDs and Blu-Rays, too, but in much smaller quantities 'cause I don't really care that much about movies - I see maybe five a year in theaters, if that, and maybe twice that many via Amazon or Hulu.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 28 January 2017 16:07 (seven years ago) link
I've no doubt enthusiasts (and some people who grew up when blu-rays, cds, lps had value) will maintain collections - but I don't think coming generations are likely to
― niels, Saturday, 28 January 2017 16:29 (seven years ago) link
Apparently sales of eBooks have leveled off. Even my students tell me they look to them as escapes from the tyranny of the screen.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 January 2017 16:30 (seven years ago) link
them = books
i'm ready to make a run for the border at a moment's notice.
https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16388119_1736894629957515_1793370399160766769_n.jpg?oh=df9fcc467cb28d6168a70507a96a0028&oe=5949BF89
https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16299497_1736896039957374_5411641323181886341_n.jpg?oh=a167a6529c0f205ea919fabd0cac11c9&oe=591B472F
― scott seward, Saturday, 28 January 2017 16:36 (seven years ago) link
You have two copies of Scream Bloody Gore! Good idea - in case anything happens to one, you have a spare. That album rules. Oh and you have two copies of South of Heaven too! Smart man.
I will always buy physical media, and will have a physical collection of music until the day I die, at which point it will probably all end up in a dumpster
― Wimmels, Saturday, 28 January 2017 19:49 (seven years ago) link
noise, metal, old school hip hop ... and red house painters.
― mark e, Saturday, 28 January 2017 19:53 (seven years ago) link
and Cranes!
what are the 2 with the same pattern/logo, one below Red House Painters just above bottom left, one in the next column over, between Eric B & Rakim "Let the Rhythm Hit 'Em" and Kool G Rap?
(this may an ignorant question, but hey)
― a passing spacecadet, Saturday, 28 January 2017 20:20 (seven years ago) link
I think that's Death
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 28 January 2017 20:53 (seven years ago) link
Maybe not.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 28 January 2017 20:54 (seven years ago) link
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 January 2017 16:30
Glad other people feel this way but I don't hear it often enough.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 28 January 2017 20:55 (seven years ago) link
i'm reading more and more varied stuff since getting my kobo. and it's costing me less (being mostly public domain novels and amazon daily deals)
― koogs, Saturday, 28 January 2017 21:42 (seven years ago) link
yeah, those are Death demos/live things. bootlegs.
― scott seward, Saturday, 28 January 2017 21:43 (seven years ago) link
(and you do get to keep ebooks that you buy (if you free them from the amazon ecosystem)) xp
― koogs, Saturday, 28 January 2017 21:44 (seven years ago) link