the spoken breakdown in keep your name is excruciating. Up in Hudson is beautiful ototh.
― the klosterman weekend (s.clover), Thursday, 19 January 2017 19:12 (seven years ago) link
ILX will probably be interested to know Dawn Richard is on this album (singing a song co-written by Solange, I believe)
― Evan R, Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:10 (seven years ago) link
Noticed the cover is a riff on the motif from the cover of Bitte Orca and Slaves' Graves and Ballads. But I can't tell if that's like... a giant chocolate sculpture or wood.
― flappy bird, Thursday, 19 January 2017 20:12 (seven years ago) link
Dave's singing has dramatically gotten better. I can't believe how good he sounds on little bubble.
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, 19 January 2017 21:49 (seven years ago) link
imho dave's singing was always great, but he deffo more refined/practiced now
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 20 January 2017 09:37 (seven years ago) link
*he is
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 20 January 2017 09:39 (seven years ago) link
If DL is referencing a Dylan lyric, that Dylan lyric upsets me too. It's transparent to me as a listener which lyrical devices will transform a "cathartic song about the singer's heartbreak" into an "abusive kiss-off to a lover". Reminding the ex (and the world) that her breakthrough star turn was "hey, a song ~I~ wrote for you"? It disempowers the ex both internally and externally, reminds the audience to check writing credits, is a form of aggrandizement-for-the-author, and, worst of all, threatens to be, if the song achieves some kind of NPR ubiquity, some evil black lantern that's gonna hang over the ex's aural environment for the song's lifespan. I write this because I respect DL as a musician and a man from head to toe, but if I'd been privy to hearing these lyrics at a stage where I could've offered some advice, I'd tell him to make beautiful music, not shitty music. Stuff like this is legacy-souring for me
― fgti, Friday, 20 January 2017 13:25 (seven years ago) link
otm
― illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Friday, 20 January 2017 15:04 (seven years ago) link
Felt similar about the line "What I want from art is truth, what you want is fame" from Keep Your Name.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 20 January 2017 15:43 (seven years ago) link
About Stillness Is The Move, Amber is credited as a writer on that track (only other person on that record other than DL) and don't all the lyrics just come straight from Wings of Desire? I always wondered how there was no credit for that on the track.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 20 January 2017 15:47 (seven years ago) link
"keep your name"'s lyrics are just, ugh
unfortunate bc musically this is the most i've ever liked dp
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 20 January 2017 16:04 (seven years ago) link
Nauseating profile up on p4k today http://pitchfork.com/features/profile/10013-going-solo-dirty-projectors-dave-longstreth-steps-outside-the-frame/
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link
We talk about The Blues Brothers joining the canon of flinty, ’70s American cinema, and how Magic Eye illusions double as a metaphor for the concentrated power of female orgasm.
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 18:59 (seven years ago) link
I'm going to assume you made that sentence up 'cause there's no way I was gonna read that anyway.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 19:01 (seven years ago) link
no that sentence is absolutely in there
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 19:02 (seven years ago) link
yep. along with pictures of Longstreth looking pensive in the woods
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 19:04 (seven years ago) link
jfc burn it all down
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 19:05 (seven years ago) link
:D
― left hand hierarchy (imago), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 19:05 (seven years ago) link
Interesting that he produced Coffman's album, I guess.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 January 2017 19:19 (seven years ago) link
also that he recorded this new album a year and a half ago
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link
Did Eli Cash write this:
"They took breaks listening to bachata, dancehall, Jorge Ben’s A Tábua De Esmeralda, music where even harmonic elements are framed as rhythm, and at night stood out by the train tracks with burritos, staring up at the factory silos nearby, filled with corn syrup."
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 08:08 (seven years ago) link
Still kinda enjoyed it and hoping against hope that I can take DL's "the songs are not autobiography" claim seriously.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 08:46 (seven years ago) link
So this new song with Dawn Richard
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 8 February 2017 01:35 (seven years ago) link
this is easily the best of the new songs so far, the end with the overlapping vocals is really nice
― ufo, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 03:54 (seven years ago) link
http://www.stereogum.com/1924017/dirty-projectors-fleet-foxes-frontmen-discuss-the-bad-and-bougie-state-of-indie-rock-today/news/
In which Dave Longstreth of Dirty Projectors starts a conversation about how indie rock is resting its laurels on the unearned, lazy appropriation of other people's ideas by extensively quoting "Bad and Boujee".
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Friday, 10 February 2017 16:54 (seven years ago) link
"well removed from the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience"
my new display name
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 16:55 (seven years ago) link
feels great
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 10 February 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link
The whole thing is pretty vomitous. Like, yeah, you guys are real fuckin' artists, man. Critics of society, even.
― Austin, Friday, 10 February 2017 17:15 (seven years ago) link
Dick Longstretch
― flopson, Friday, 10 February 2017 17:26 (seven years ago) link
lol @ GAPDY nostalgia
― I Am In Atlanta And Thug Is Young (imago), Friday, 10 February 2017 18:02 (seven years ago) link
fleet foxes guy is slightly less of a complete disaster there than dave wanker
― I Am In Atlanta And Thug Is Young (imago), Friday, 10 February 2017 18:03 (seven years ago) link
that was otm though, about GAPDY being the last time indie was proggy
― flopson, Friday, 10 February 2017 18:07 (seven years ago) link
Grizzly Bear’s Ed Droste chimed in, too, with a screaming face emoji.
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Friday, 10 February 2017 18:10 (seven years ago) link
Ed Droste otm.
― flopson, Friday, 10 February 2017 18:07 (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
someone wants to be deluged in links
― I Am In Atlanta And Thug Is Young (imago), Friday, 10 February 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link
that is such a pathetically closed-minded perspective
― I Am In Atlanta And Thug Is Young (imago), Friday, 10 February 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link
also all those bands have made more records since 2009...
― flappy bird, Friday, 10 February 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link
Ahhh this is awful
"Refined and effete, well removed from the rain drops and drop tops of lived, earned experience"
Lifting your guitar-style wholesale from Malian players, lyrics about listening to Tupac and Kanye, this is imo the most dangerous and insidious form of cultural white supremacy, that kind that is colonialism masquerading as wokeness
And if somebody uses "effete" as a pejorative again I will limp-wristedly pull a gun on them
― fgti, Friday, 10 February 2017 18:30 (seven years ago) link
god i wish jamie from xiu xiu hadn't deleted his tweet about Longstreth, it was something like "do you KNOW that Dave Longstreth is a /something/ with fucked ideas about colonialism?"
― flappy bird, Friday, 10 February 2017 18:32 (seven years ago) link
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY PERSON WHO REMEMBERED THIS!
was something like 'racist notions about eastern european ethnicity' i think
― devvvine, Friday, 10 February 2017 18:34 (seven years ago) link
ChipotleIndie rock has been criticized as refined and effete for as long as I can remember, but I think a narrow focus on a certain strand of American indie rock masks how bands like Tame Impala and Unknown Mortal Orchestra really are pushing music forward while influencing artists across genre lines. I think 2016 was an unusually weak year for indie rock, but 2015 and 2013 had lots of great stuff. But yes, you can't keep mining 90s lo-fi indie rock/Pavement forever and expect it to sound fresh.
02/10/17 9:43 AM+7REPLY
ChipotleAlso call me crazy, but I think 2017 will be a really good year for (indie) rock music. 2016 was dominated by great superstar R&B/hip-hop albums, so I think the time is more than ripe for a shift.
02/10/17 10:02 AM+8
― nomar, Friday, 10 February 2017 18:34 (seven years ago) link
lil wotiemy take is that rock music should move away from the "indie" sound of idkkkkk jangly guitars and delicate vocals...idk what effete means. Move to something harder that shreds
02/10/17 9:56 AM+10REPLY
ChipotleYup. Stooges/Stones/Faces/Led Zeppelin/Velvet Underground influence would be welcome and would sound super fresh.
02/10/17 10:10 AM+9
And once again ILX seems like a beacon of sanity.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 February 2017 18:40 (seven years ago) link
I mean maybe we're all wrong
Maybe Dave Longstreth in fact invented Ali Farka Toure
Maybe he invented Black Flag also
― fgti, Friday, 10 February 2017 18:40 (seven years ago) link
lmao yes!!!! i tweeted at him at the time like "JUICY DEETS SPILL THE BEANS!!!!!!"
― flappy bird, Friday, 10 February 2017 18:43 (seven years ago) link
Longstreth reminds me a lot of David Byrne: aloof, arrogant, annoying, constantly appropriating African music
― flappy bird, Friday, 10 February 2017 18:45 (seven years ago) link
I made the joke a few times before but Dirty Projectors reaallllllly living their band name these days
― fgti, Friday, 10 February 2017 18:45 (seven years ago) link
it would be "fun" to read a group intvw between Longstreth, JS, and Downtown Boys
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 10 February 2017 18:45 (seven years ago) link
I've tried to engage with DL one-on-one about serious stuff, but he's such a brainiac and he's clearly spent weeks upon weeks building up internal logic structures to excuse himself, explain himself, preserve the idea of his own genius. Maybe I'm just not on-the-ball enough to call him on his bullshit irl but it's like trying to play tower defence against a racist and misogynist Harvard graduate who knows every possible loophole
― fgti, Friday, 10 February 2017 18:48 (seven years ago) link
man who clearly spent weeks upon weeks building up internal logic structures to excuse himself is a pretty good summation of the new songs imo
― devvvine, Friday, 10 February 2017 18:52 (seven years ago) link