― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 15:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
i think people have overintellectualized responses to this band, i really do. if it was just a tape of your brother-in-law's pick-up band you'd probably toss it in the bin (but discreetly, so as not to offend the brother-in-law). i will, however, give les rallizes denudes another chance just so i'm not guilty of condeming something without trying to understand it first.
― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 16:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
When its done well, its exceptional.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 28 May 2003 16:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Thursday, 29 May 2003 15:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― libbey adams, Friday, 13 June 2003 19:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
heh.
funny you should mention neil young bcz just on wednesday i got hold of the 'red' and 'green' CDRs and I got reminded of Neil Young (guitars not as distorted as live 77, basically comes down to that). I think the blue cheer connection come from the use of distortion whereas the velvets comes from the use of repeating basslines and drum patterns.
but yeah, its a lot of things.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 13 June 2003 19:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Friday, 27 June 2003 03:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:37 (twenty years ago) link
I like Rallizes but think it's decidedly minor work. Fushitsusha or Kosukuya they ain't.
― Kjoerup, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:53 (twenty years ago) link
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 04:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 10:19 (twenty years ago) link
I have a legit 'Live 77' cd. I'll be happy to let it go for, oh, $400.
― Kjoerup, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 21:34 (twenty years ago) link
Watch for Les Rallizes Denudes & Yellow - Sessions at Fussa double disc. Also, I wasn't aware until recently that there were 2 Doyle/Mizutani trio shows recorded... Hiroshi Nar has been releasing a ton of stuff, including a live thing with Nishinihon.
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:41 (twenty years ago) link
― mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 17:46 (twenty years ago) link
― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 7 September 2004 20:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Soukesian, Monday, 27 March 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsBXLh-v_II&search=rallizes%20denudes
Seems to be some sort of Japanese TV arts show retrospective segment. Any Japanese speakers out there able to clue us in on who is being interviewed and what they have to say?
― Soukesian (Soukesian), Friday, 16 June 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link
anger
― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 16 June 2006 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Dug out 77 live for the first time in a while here. Yup, still great.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 September 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link
milton's link above is dead--i wonder what it was that got him angry?
― ian, Monday, 7 September 2009 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link
probably typical VT price gouging and/or hyperbole.
― sleeve, Monday, 7 September 2009 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I should spend some time with 77 live today.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 7 September 2009 17:17 (fifteen years ago) link
perversely my favourite rallizes song is the acoustic kioku ha toi which i find myself humming on the regular. Tho sometimes Enter the Mirror, the Last One or Night of the Assassins takes its place.
― BIG jock KNEW aka the steindriver (jim), Monday, 7 September 2009 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link
In the past month I realized LRD are one of the best bands I've ever heard, just from the '77 Live album, which gets ten times better each time I hear it (especially on drugs). They have a few other releases floatin around too, like Yoda Go-A-Go-Go, which kicks fucking ass!!
― falc0n2600, Monday, 7 September 2009 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Still one of my all-time favorites
― Soukesian, Monday, 7 September 2009 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Live 77 is indeed a classic. A pity that none of their other releases matches it.
― Duke, Monday, 7 September 2009 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Here's a quick blast of that, from youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HidM7vrL37E
― Soukesian, Monday, 7 September 2009 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link
At least I'm pretty certain it's from that disc, cut to film for wherever. Like to think it gives a feel for what it might have been like to be upfront. But LOUD LOUD LOUD and endless.
― Soukesian, Monday, 7 September 2009 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link
great band
― Lord Crutsos Omicron (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 7 September 2009 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link
I notice from this month's Wire that Phoenix records (whoever they may be) have (re)issued 'digitally remastered' editions of "Heavier Than A Death In The Family" and "Blind Baby Has Its Mother's Eyes". Limited to 1000 CDs each, and LPs are apparently forthcoming:
http://www.piccadillyrecords.com/shop/search.php?search=Les+Rallizes+Denudes
― Duke, Friday, 16 July 2010 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link
My copy of Heavier Than A Death In The Family doesn't play on any CD player known to man, so beware...
― A prog venn diagram for you to think about (Matt #2), Friday, 16 July 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Phoenix = Radioactive Records
So I wouldn't believe that it's really remastered in any significant way.
― Pants Perdu (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 17 July 2010 09:09 (fourteen years ago) link
heavier than a death is so fucking great, would love to own an actual copy, even on pheonix/radioactive
my copy of satori is on radioactive
― good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Saturday, 17 July 2010 09:26 (fourteen years ago) link
heavier than a death is so fucking great, would love to own an actual copy, even on phoenix/radioactive
this sums it up. might wait for the vinyl
― Duke, Saturday, 17 July 2010 10:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Ah if I'd known it was Radioactive I would've thought twice...can't imagine the vinyl pressings being great either.
Info on this guy : http://www.yogarecords.com/press/radioactive.html
― A prog venn diagram for you to think about (Matt #2), Saturday, 17 July 2010 10:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Do those records *need* remastering in any significant way?!
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 17 July 2010 11:52 (fourteen years ago) link
needledropping is a kind of remastering
― good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Saturday, 17 July 2010 11:54 (fourteen years ago) link
also didn't realise that Phoenix = Radioactive. if so, i wld say they've improved the quality of their product - i've got their reish of the Improvisation Sep. 1975 alb by Ichiyanagi/Kosugi/Ranta and it looks & sounds great.
― Ward Fowler, Saturday, 17 July 2010 12:08 (fourteen years ago) link
man fuck James Plummer and whatever scam label he's running now.
plz read that link above if any of y'all are seriously considering buying these.
― bug holocaust (sleeve), Saturday, 17 July 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
bought dreaded phoenix copies of heavier than a death in the family and blind baby has its mother's eyes today, with significant regret. but there is no way that i'm otherwise gonna get my hands on "real copies," and no way that anyone's making significant scratch off limited runs of obscure shit like this, nice vinyl and decent packaging at high-but-not-obscene prices. it's not undercutting any legit market that i can see; alls it's doing is removing some of the geek cache associated with the rarity. and for me, it's functionally valid. i mean like i have all these tunes on my ipod, but they don't fucking work there. i basically only use my ipod for shuffling and to get familiar with poppy new stuff. i don't want some blone out 20-minute drug drone reverb epic to come on when i'm biking to work. it's unsuitable. i want to listen to this shit when i'm bonding w/ the couch and reading comix in ur wee wee hours, and that's the point at which i'm spinning vinyl. vinyl is appropriate in this case wr2 my ancient mariner lifestyle patterning.
and i'm just making excuses, i know, but i don't see what the real harm is. like same with FTB's satori. it sucks that my radioactive copy is pirate bullshit, but it was fucking hard to find otherwise. i can't imagine that anyone got rich off jacking it, but lots of people got turned on, and that's all to the good, afaic. still thinking of picking up that german oak.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 September 2010 06:06 (fourteen years ago) link
"people can choose" atm, !!!
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 September 2010 09:55 (fourteen years ago) link
still thinking of picking up that german oak.
Read this as "Listening to rallizes has made me so strong, I think I might pick up that tree over there!"
― Mark G, Thursday, 2 September 2010 10:17 (fourteen years ago) link
it's true, i did. my palms are now all sticky with the teutonic sap.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Thursday, 2 September 2010 10:33 (fourteen years ago) link
I need to mention that there have been a number of issues/re-issues of Les Rallizes Denudes stuff on the rather amazing Univive label. These are either newly discovered tapes or nicely cleaned up. They're really expensive multi-disc jobs w/ nice packaging & the whole works. They're also floating around on the p2p sites. Rumor has it that Mizutani may be involved in some way with this label, at the very least bestowing at least somewhat legit status on them. I understand that they are CDs, not CDRs. Some titles:
Mars Studio 1980 Laid Down '76 Double Heads Black Rainbow Double Heads 6CD Limited edition Laid Down'76 again One More Night Tripper Cradle Saloon78 Great White Wonder
Wild Trips
Wild Trip In the West
I would also like to amend my earlier comments on my olde screen name re. the most intense guitar freakblast. It is in fact France Demo Tape, not Wild Party 1975. Let me just say: Holy f#%king shit!! My joy at having discovered this gem is somewhat dimmed by the realization that my quest for the ultimate gnarly skronkblast tsunami had perhaps ended. It grabs your head and makes a brain smoothie. Its a paint-peeling, wallpaper-yellowing, houseplant-killing, pet-epilepsy-inducing bundle of joy. If it were to take human form, just one of its sperm could wipe a badger's ass with Chuck Norris's nutsack. It could wad Chuck Norris into a ball & shoot him into low orbit with a slingshot fashioned from ox femurs & wolverine hymen.
― ImprovSpirit, Thursday, 2 September 2010 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link
@contenderizer: Very few of the Rallizes records were ever released "officially" in the first place. One discog I looked at listed only Live '77, their side of Oz Days, and the 7"EP as being official. That's 3 out of a zillion CDs & LPs that are in circulation! I'm not sure how accurate that is, whether "official" means self-released or what. I'm just pretty excited to have some of them, myself... :-)
― ImprovSpirit, Thursday, 2 September 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
also recommend Tachikawa December 17th 1976. Not sure what label its on. Good show, good sound.
― ImprovSpirit, Friday, 3 September 2010 05:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Very few of the Rallizes records were ever released "officially" in the first place. One discog I looked at listed only Live '77, their side of Oz Days, and the 7"EP as being official. [...] I'm just pretty excited to have some of them, myself... :-)
yeah, that's how i feel. there's clearly a demand, so someone might as well meet it. hell, i've read that only live 77 and the single are really/truly official. who knows?
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 05:59 (fourteen years ago) link
will definitely try & DL the france demo you mention. haven't heard it, sounds amazing.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 06:00 (fourteen years ago) link
i didn't 'rallizes' before that improvspirit was john b from oz days gone by...
any clues where i might find a dload of the france demo?
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 3 September 2010 07:52 (fourteen years ago) link
I think buying these versions of Les Rallizes stuff is not too objectionable. Pretty much the entire Rallizes catalog is bootleg and it was tolerated even before the digital file swapping era. On the other hand, stuff like the Flower Travellin' Band material being bootlegged/pirated is really bad news. Phoenix seems to be taking some of their cues from the Japrocksampler material. A few years after Krautrocksampler a lot of legit reissues of rare German records started showing up on various labels, to everyone's benefit. Would there have been the Kraftwerk re-masters or the Neu! box set without the interest generated by this book and other artists and writers turning people on to the stuff at the same time? I sincerely doubt it. One of the worst consequences of pirate operations like Phoenix is that they basically destroy any chance of a legit, licensed, decent-sounding official reissue by sucking up all the demand with their BS needledrop bootlegs. I'm appalled that Forced Exposure carries Phoenix's stuff. Anyone ever inquire about that? Sorry for the derail, this has been on my mind a lot lately...
― FRESH MEAT (MFB), Friday, 3 September 2010 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link