Are you cool with forks making Spotify playlists out of every rolling thread without permission?

Spotify playlists of rolling threads make rolling threads 100x better for me. All the Spotify hate here is baffling.

bonkers and baffling...unless you're an artist I guess

spotify is tremendous garbage for rolling threads like hip-hop where artists are often not on official above ground streaming services

it has also discouraged important voices not to participate

& its pure dilettante service

i hated them then and i hate them now. ban forks

omg are yall gonna do this again for real

Deej operates on a 12 month delay

tidal is cool tho, right?

M.I.A. truffles discussion on deck

has it been a year omg

How do you measure
Measure a beef

apologies

spotify is crap but dip is still some weird vendetta guy/sock

lol @ 'dilettante service', someone's scared of his cultural echelon being infiltrated

I thought we were complaining about immigration-themed playlists

stop giving them ideas

forkin' tubes

"Hey man, stop gabbin and fork me that tube already!"

*uses the forkin' tubes app to fork the tubes over to his buddy*

LA's largest IPO since snapchat, dlp bans himself, etc.

is dlp a deej sock

like... deelp

pleedj

yknow

(drunk)

- djleeper casino

Haha

lol @ 'dilettante service', someone's scared of his cultural echelon being infiltrated

― I Am In Atlanta And Thug Is Young (imago), Friday, February 3, 2017 9:37 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no one's talking about a cultural echelon dipshit my job has literally been to expose more artists from the culture, as many as possible

im talking about the value of reading the threads & participating in them vs. leeching off them like a lazy turd

https://img.clipartfest.com/099f94e8f77bbe3524b0c046d55eac91_fort-worth-double-jeopardy-dwi-double-jeopardy_466-349.png

lol

it's the internet ffs, take your secret recommendations to 77

this is the dumbest thread

what 'secret recommendations' the point is to get ppl to participate in the thread instead of leeching from it

the purpose of discussion here is ... discussion, not providing u with playlists

good to know that I am using ILX (and by extension, the internet) wrong most of the time.

I think it's possible to both have a discussion and link to a playlist with access to some of the music being discussed

I can't imagine why people are put off contributing to rolling threads that are like 60% Deej pedantry and tirelessly pushing the same argument over and over again.

On the other hands Forks dude, I subscribed to all those playlists last year and with the exception of the afrobeats one I didn't bother to listen to any of them at all. Like a huge data dump is the worst possible way of consuming music, whether it's a 400-track playlists or an endless string of Youtube links. And it does sort of grate when the only time you ever post to them is to say "hey, the playlist's updated!" On the other hand no one's able to stop Forks, or anyone else, from making them so who gives a shit really.

FWIW I still think ILM got worse when it coalesced around rolling threads. If you look at New Answers sometimes then 90% of the new music being discussed is in them, unless it's Beyonce or Kanye or whoever. It obviously allows a deeper dive into genres, but it's amazing how rarely people break out of these little sub-communities now. When you get to the end of year poll results you really realise how balkanised ILM has become. The over-excitable thread about an individual song or album is almost a thing of the past, and that's what enabled a song like, say, Desloc Piccalo's 'Drums' to be heard more widely.

weirdly they participated in them for years but then when spotify playlists come around they stopped

its almost as if it has nothing to do w/ me

" On the other hand no one's able to stop Forks, or anyone else, from making them so who gives a shit really."

which is exactly why it's worth complaining abt

i mean what would you do if you couldn't publicly blame me for arguments i end up in

I'm pretty dubious that these things are connected fwiw. Certainly compared to the ILM membership skewing older and older, with all the lifestyle changes that implies. (It's also skewing maler, but that's another discussion).

I'm also idly wondering if ILM in general would be improved by a blanket ban on YouTube and Spotify links. I just looked at all the rolling threads and there are some exceptions, but some of them are literally people just posting links. The removal of the need to describe a piece of music or even make an argument as to why it's good has done a lot to suppress discussion here in general.

Admittedly some of the most vocally anti-playlist people still actually bother here.

#NoBanNoWall

Matt DC's last two posts 100% otm imo

The amount of discussion on ILM - even the amount of just posting comment-free links! - has completely fallen off a cliff over the past year (ignoring those ghastly Rate Your Music nostalgia-wank polls). Rolling threads are virtually the only thing keeping it half alive given that most single-song threads die after 2 answers anyway.

the actual ironic thing about these bloody Spotify data dumps is that no one's particularly invested in keeping any rolling thread an exhaustive document of what's going on in that genre anyway, so tons of music will never make it onto your precious playlists. gosh you might have to go looking for it yourself and engaging with the genre outside ILM!

gosh!

pretty sure smartphones and youtube links have wayyyyy more to do w any putative changes in music discussion here than forks's playlists, but of course those and othrr factors have been discussed with great thought and participation on other threads not created to flame a specific poster...

if you don't like the playlists don't listen to them? i can assure you that they are not why i avoid rolling threads, a practice i had established long before forks started doing this. I guess that makes me a leech. hot tip tho, y'all should stop doing EOY polls I'd you want to keep sideline-sitters like myself from cream-skimming the best stuff to come out of the rolling threads...

There have always been people who have used ILM primarily as a recommendation engine, and it's kind of interesting/unsurprising that the people who take the dimmest view of that are also the ones whose jobs/lives allow them to basically sit there listening to music all day if they want to. Most people don't have that luxury.

I'm not sure who these posters are who apparently only ever engage with genres through ILM playlists through. Like I'm curious as to who you actually think that is?

forks, don't change the game for these hoes

The over-excitable thread about an individual song or album is almost a thing of the past, and that's what enabled a song like, say, Desloc Piccalo's 'Drums' to be heard more widely.

― Matt DC, Saturday, February 4, 2017 5:07 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a year ago people were freaking out about the existence of an excitable thread about kaitlyn aurelia smith

(I don't give a single shit about someone making a playlist about my ORIGINAL DISCUSSION DO NOT STEAL and find it ridiculous that anyone else does, but the reason I post to rolling threads is that almost every time I have opened a thread for an artist or album I love, I'm lucky if one person responds. Single-artist/song threads only work if there's a pre-existing fanbase, which should be obvious.)

i think rolling threads have a place but it feels like there are more of them every year & people are getting sorted into smaller and smaller buckets. i understand why e.g. the metal and bobbins ones need to exist but some of the more specific ones less so

i've found in recent years that the 'Favorite Tracks + Albums 20XX' thread is the most valuable rolling thread to me since it covers the whole spectrum

I'm not sure who these posters are who apparently only ever engage with genres through ILM playlists through. Like I'm curious as to who you actually think that is?

― Matt DC, Saturday, 4 February 2017 15:15 (two hours ago) Permalink

*looks at poll results*

I don't see how you can compare someone posting an audio link in a thread with someone skimming all the audio links from a thread but that's just me... rolling rap thread has been full of youtubes and audio links from day one

what year is this

1933