oh nothing, just the unfair call. carry on.
― W4LTER, Friday, 1 February 2008 02:59 (sixteen years ago) link
i mean extra golden have like a dude from africa in them and are way more pointedly afro-centric from vampire weekend
― J0rdan S., Friday, 1 February 2008 03:00 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah I guess that's true. Ok let me rephrase the question: I don't like this band.
― Hurting 2, Friday, 1 February 2008 03:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Whiney, you can't imagine Camper Van Beethoven having gotten an Alternative Press cover or a lead CMJ story??
― nabisco, Friday, 1 February 2008 03:43 (sixteen years ago) link
I'd say if this were 1992, Vampire Weekend would be featured on 120 Minutes a few times, and maybe worked into an episode of Pete and Pete. I think it's just the state of things that easy going collegiate indie is the mainstream rock style right now.
― burt_stanton, Friday, 1 February 2008 03:49 (sixteen years ago) link
I'd say if this were 1992, Vampire Weekend would be featured on 120 Minutes a few times, and maybe worked into an episode of Pete and Pete. I think it's just the state of things that easy going collegiate indie is the mainstream rock style right now. The internet.
― J0rdan S., Friday, 1 February 2008 03:50 (sixteen years ago) link
oh yeah, that thing.
― burt_stanton, Friday, 1 February 2008 03:51 (sixteen years ago) link
We already talked about blinkers upthread, but Burt, if some MTV2-level success is "the mainstream rock style" then I envy you the Daughtry-free world you live in.
Camper Van were on one of the 120 Minutes comp, back in the day.
― nabisco, Friday, 1 February 2008 03:52 (sixteen years ago) link
I wish you would like them Hurting :(
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Friday, 1 February 2008 03:59 (sixteen years ago) link
indie aspirational let's call it then. go through the suburbs and you see kids wearing the skinny jeans and shit.. indie's the big style right now. I bet you'd find more highschool kids in the Jersey suburbs listening to Vampire Weekend now than your precious Doughy, whatever that is. I don't think you'd find too many of 'em in 1991 listening to ... the Drop Nineteens or whatever. probably the intetnrets inteterstseeeeeeees
― burt_stanton, Friday, 1 February 2008 04:02 (sixteen years ago) link
OTM
― Choose Leif, Friday, 1 February 2008 04:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Back in the day, the audience for indie was much smaller, and information moved much, much slower. Adjusting those differences, though, the level attention accorded VW is pretty much exactly what a promising young indie band would have recieved in the early 90s. Doesn't seem at all surprising.
― contenderizer, Friday, 1 February 2008 05:21 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm not sure those skinny-jeaned kids are mostly listening to Vampire Weekend though. More likely [emo/grindcore/hardcore band that I've never heard of]
― Hurting 2, Friday, 1 February 2008 06:21 (sixteen years ago) link
I mean that's the impression I get from the indie-looking high school kids who work at coffee shops around here
― Hurting 2, Friday, 1 February 2008 06:22 (sixteen years ago) link
I think it just boils down to I don't like the cut of their jibs. I can't completely explain it.
― Hurting 2, Friday, 1 February 2008 06:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Whiney, you can't imagine Camper Van Beethoven having gotten an Alternative Press cover or a lead CMJ story??-- nabisco, Friday, 1 February 2008 03:43 (3 hours ago) Link
-- nabisco, Friday, 1 February 2008 03:43 (3 hours ago) Link
Hell no! They were a great art-novelty, not a magazine cover band. They saved that for shit like The Cure or The Pixies or Gene Loves Jezebel or something.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 1 February 2008 06:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Vampire Weekend is way too flowery for me. Whats wrong with music? Indie has become fused with flowers and violins. and not in the good way.
― CaptainLorax, Friday, 1 February 2008 07:40 (sixteen years ago) link
For instance, that Final Fantasy guy did a good job with He Poos Clouds. Belle and Sebastian worked cuz all the instruments went together. They weren't mixing genres.
― CaptainLorax, Friday, 1 February 2008 07:43 (sixteen years ago) link
now we're down to nude spocks talking to each other
― gabbneb, Friday, 1 February 2008 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link
They were a great art-novelty, not a magazine cover band.
oh, I think by Key Lime Pie and a #1 modern rock hit they were up to Gene Loves Jezebel levels of notoriety.
― da croupier, Friday, 1 February 2008 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link
Next step -- the airy heights of the Mighty Lemon Drops.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 February 2008 15:17 (sixteen years ago) link
let's talk about The Ocean Blue again.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 1 February 2008 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Boy that Innocence Mission lemme tell ya.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 February 2008 15:23 (sixteen years ago) link
"You wanted the best and you got the best, the hottest band in the world -- THE MILLTOWN BROTHERS!"
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 February 2008 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link
I've been having "A-Punk" stuck in my head.
― The Reverend, Friday, 1 February 2008 15:33 (sixteen years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4177QTBQZJL._AA240_.jpg
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 1 February 2008 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Belle and Sebastian worked cuz all the instruments went together. They weren't mixing genres.
what
― St3ve Go1db3rg, Friday, 1 February 2008 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link
suburbs of mexico city ?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ru5dsbVOwzQ
or london ?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bEqXcG_9dK0
― tramp steamer, Saturday, 2 February 2008 00:53 (sixteen years ago) link
DUDES, LETTERMAN TONITE. OMG WTF.
― gabbneb, Saturday, 2 February 2008 02:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Dudes, just because a band has "notoriety" doesn't mean they get magazine covers. Not that CVB isn't great, but putting them on your magazine cover in 1984 is like putting Cake on your magazine cover in 1994 or Electric Six in 2004.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 2 February 2008 02:25 (sixteen years ago) link
that's why i was referring to the band in 1989
― da croupier, Saturday, 2 February 2008 03:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Would you call this band an internet phenomenon? I remember reading about them in the NYC media even as early as late 2006 as being the "next big thing".
― burt_stanton, Saturday, 2 February 2008 03:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Even though they were less alt-leaning back then, isn't the equivalent of a Spin magazine cover in 1989 "a Spin magazine cover"?
Spin covers in 1989: Mick Jagger, Elvis Costello, U2, Tom Petty...
Also: http://stereogum.com/img/oldstand/spin_july89/top_30.jpg
You're nuts!
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 2 February 2008 04:15 (sixteen years ago) link
How would Vampire Weekend not perfectly slot into that 1989 college radio top 10?
― scottpl, Saturday, 2 February 2008 04:27 (sixteen years ago) link
It looks like all of those bands are waaaaaaaaay established; I'm surprised you don't see Dinosaur Jr. on there ... I thought that's what all the college kids listened to back then.
― burt_stanton, Saturday, 2 February 2008 04:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Chris, aren't you underestimating the "notoriety" that this band is/will get? I'd reckon this is going to be the biggest indie rock debut since Arcade Fire's, which was three-plus years ago. If SNL comes back, they'll play that. They could be on a Spin cover this year. They'll make the P&J top 10. I've not had time to keep up with 600 posts, so apologies if I miss the point and we're lamenting that it's come to this rather than saying it will never happen, but these dudes are turning into (relatively) a rather big deal.
― scottpl, Saturday, 2 February 2008 04:34 (sixteen years ago) link
I unwittingly went to Amoeba during their in-store which was probably the most I've ever seen it during an in-store. The music was utterly unmemorable, but there was some cute banter. Mostly I was annoyed that people were blocking my access to the music sections I wanted to go to.
― Alex in SF, Saturday, 2 February 2008 05:09 (sixteen years ago) link
scottpl, you missed my point.
I'm saying they would fit GREAT in that playlist. They even remind of bands like CVB, Violent Femmes, Feelies, They Might Be Giants. But these are bands (and bands i LIKE) for cult followings and novelty hits--not Spin magazine covers
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 2 February 2008 05:22 (sixteen years ago) link
Cutesy funtime novelty alt-rock bands don't traditionally get this type of noterity is what I'm saying. It would be like Cake being on the cover of Rolling Stone.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 2 February 2008 05:24 (sixteen years ago) link
God, this is so depressing.
― Tape Store, Saturday, 2 February 2008 05:27 (sixteen years ago) link
What's depressing? You mean this thread?
― dell, Saturday, 2 February 2008 05:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Whiney, I think you're right on some of the comparisons, but the way VW are and will be received this year is absolutely the OPPOSITE of "novelty band." Their whole selling point is that they've put together the sort of comfy indie record people can leave playing in their stereos for months on end, one of those all-day basics people will listen to in pretty much any mood. That's not a novelty, it's bread-and-butter stuff for chipper-indie fans.
― nabisco, Saturday, 2 February 2008 06:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Unwarranted hype (including parts of this thread, yes)
― Tape Store, Saturday, 2 February 2008 06:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Their whole selling point is that they've put together the sort of comfy indie record people can leave playing in their stereos for months on end, one of those all-day basics people will listen to in pretty much any mood.
This is exactly right. Which is why it's befuddling to me that band that SOUNDS like weirdo-novelty '80s college-rock trifle (flirts with world music, quirky cutie-pie lyrics about things like grammar, ska parts) is being taken as SERIOUS BAND 2008.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 2 February 2008 06:17 (sixteen years ago) link
"Cape Cod Kwassa Kwassa" Vs. "ZZ Top Goes To Egypt"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 2 February 2008 06:18 (sixteen years ago) link
wait when were they on da cover of spin ?
― tramp steamer, Saturday, 2 February 2008 06:21 (sixteen years ago) link
In further summary, Vampire Weekend are STILL a band from New York.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2008 06:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Replace "Spin" in this thread with "Option" and everything makes a lot more sense. In the early 90s, it took cute little indie bands quite a while to work up to the Spin cover level. But you could get an Option cover in '85 with quite a bit less label muscle/money behind you. And I think that's about where VW are.
― contenderizer, Saturday, 2 February 2008 06:30 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm curious as to what other bands' debuts garnered such a lengthy thread in such a short time in ILM's past. I can recall M.I.A.'s Arular being a pretty huge thread from the get-go. What were some of the others? Lily Allen?
― dell, Saturday, 2 February 2008 06:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Ha, Whiney, maybe we've found the slipping point: what exactly are you interpreting as "SERIOUS BAND 2008," as opposed to "HEY, FUN BAND LOADS OF PEOPLE WILL ENJOY 2007?" I can't say I've seen a shred of press on these guys that offers anything in the way of "mindblowing" or "amazing" or "future-of-music" praise -- as opposed to a lot of gushing about how their sound is charming and their album is the sort of all-day basic (etc.) described above.
Although speaking of young-band, I can't believe I'm going to say this just days after their debut is released, but the new songs they've been playing make me fear they're going to try and get actually-more-African, which is not the best idea for them at all! They've got time, though.
― nabisco, Saturday, 2 February 2008 06:43 (sixteen years ago) link