WaitForEverything emo in youComes out
― THAC0 Pastorius (Tom Violence), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 05:00 (seven years ago) link
xxxxp - I'll be 40 in April, so I guess that settles it.
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 06:29 (seven years ago) link
Deja Entendu suffers from having such a brilliant and novel opening track (after the intro). The rest of the album doesn't really stand out for me, especially after having heard almost nothing but emo for the past week. 'Jaws Theme Swimming' is great, though.I'll definitely relisten before I vote, but for now I don't really get all the praise.
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 07:18 (seven years ago) link
deja is great but I much prefer their next one
― Spottie, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 07:23 (seven years ago) link
BTW, is there a technical term for that trick where a singer overlaps the end of the previous line with the next one, like Brand New does in 'Sic transit gloria' and 'Jaws Theme Swimming'? My favorite example of this is Kim Gordon in 'JC' from Dirty.
I'm thinking of starting a thread about this technique.
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 07:26 (seven years ago) link
whats your saves the day beef?
too strongly associated with a problematic person in my life (the emo-est of beefs)
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 08:09 (seven years ago) link
didn't like straylight run much when it first came out - i think bc i didn't like taking back sunday back then (only really got into them a little bit after where you want to be and until today i'm not a huge fan of tell all your friends) but this is very nice + pleasant
― Mordy, Monday, February 20, 2017 7:25 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
both straylight run albums are incredible imo, they're both kinda reactionary non-emo emo albums, especially the first, which exists in a v strange aesthetic space between emo and singer-songwriter-y stuff. second is a great ambitious indie pop album like the format's dog problems
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 12:56 (seven years ago) link
there are so many saves the day records and they're all good-to-great but i always rep most for the least emo and most power-pop of their records, in reverie, the songwriting is incredible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBh6ueNaN6c
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 12:57 (seven years ago) link
got busy with family and missed the end of the nominations period, but the list looks awesome, will have to start whittling down ASAP, and try some of these ones out, Thirty Ought Six sounds really interesting on first blush, i still love SDRE's Diary a lot so anything Enigk-related is an automatic listen.
I have to rep for my nomination Five Knuckle Chuckle, they are absolutely skate-punk (w/ slighly pop-emo lyrics at times) but really great nonetheless and I think the voters in this thread would be the most likely on this site to enjoy this particular shit. Both albums are on youtube. They keep the speed to the nines the whole time so they never quite slowed down enough to write something that was really radio ready. They gave me their albums for making a donation to a charity of my choice, so I guess it figures they had to give it up and get real jobs, i suppose that wasn't the best business plan. That and there isn't a huge market for skate punk bands in Orangeville, ON.
Charliee HorseAll Hammed Up!
― Will (kruezer2), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 14:13 (seven years ago) link
ha I know a coupla folks from Orangeville, I'll have to ask if they heard of em
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 14:14 (seven years ago) link
I'm 40 Sund4r, so congrats, old guy award probably goes to me.
― husked, tonal wails (irrational), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 15:06 (seven years ago) link
Gonna campaign for the One Last Wish album. Rites of Spring's post-Rites of Spring band, with the same raw-throat conviction, but an overall more hopeful, lighter, poppier spirit. One of the great dead ends in underground rock history, imo, since the LP wasn't released until well after the fact (too late to be influential), but it imagined a cross between emo and '80s guitar-pop that never existed elsewhere. Every song is great, song for song as solid at Rites of Spring, so it's not a stretch to think it could've become a touchstone if it had ever been pressed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rjnH3jL7AAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7slGajKCOI
― Evan R, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 15:09 (seven years ago) link
the record not on spotify that i'm most aggressively going to campaign for is jejune's this afternoon's malady, which is simultaneously emo, indie pop, and shoegaze, and which is sometimes my favorite record in any of those subgenres
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivkEDtbIFM0
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 15:21 (seven years ago) link
iirc i think i learned about jejune on this ilx thread
the emo canon
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 15:23 (seven years ago) link
it could add an interesting stat dimension to the results if we all submitted our ages lol
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 15:23 (seven years ago) link
^^^^^excellent thread xp
ugh that's making me realize i forgot to nominate phantoms by acceptance
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 15:24 (seven years ago) link
simultaneously emo, indie pop, and shoegaze, and which is sometimes my favorite record in any of those subgenres
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 15:28 (seven years ago) link
The hardest part of this poll is going to be deciding whether or not to vote for some of my favorite records ever that I never considered emo.
― cwkiii, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 16:08 (seven years ago) link
yeah I'm not gonna vote for Unwound, Converge, and some others. I may vote for the Wrens though because I get the same satisfaction of idenficiation/immersion from them as I do from emo bands, if that makes any sense
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 16:14 (seven years ago) link
I'm listening to the straylight run for the first time (the second album) and uhhh I think this is what I wanted out of Pretty. Odd.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 16:24 (seven years ago) link
Yeah Unwound is probably my favorite LP on the whole list but I won't vote for it.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 16:32 (seven years ago) link
the opening track is great but imo actually seems a bit out of place w/ the rest of the album which is tremendous on its own virtues. boy who blocked his own shot, quiet things that no one ever knows, okay i believe you but my tommy gun don't, guernica -- i mean like every track at least to me is incredibly memorable w/ a v distinctive musical aesthetic and maybe more importantly just chockfull of really clever lyrics. idk if you were paying attention to the lyrics while you were listening but they're a big part of the appeal to me. it's also a fantastic album to sing along really loudly to while you're feeling sad and driving somewhere.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 16:50 (seven years ago) link
I like Deja Entendu a lot but I can't help feeling that The Devil and God makes it sound a bit quaint.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link
i like devil & god but somehow it's not as lyrically interesting to me. musically probably more impressive but i don't think deja entendu is a slouch in that department either, just a bit more conventional
― Mordy, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 16:57 (seven years ago) link
i think deja entendu might be the greatest transitional album of all time; it's definitely suffering from an identity crisis but if anything that makes it better, both rejecting and embracing what made your favorite weapon work, trying to make something both ambitious and poppy, straightforward and oblique. i prefer devil and god but they're kinda equally special imo
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 16:57 (seven years ago) link
idk if you were paying attention to the lyrics while you were listening but they're a big part of the appeal to me. it's also a fantastic album to sing along really loudly to while you're feeling sad and driving somewhere.
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 17:11 (seven years ago) link
2) I'm one of the happiest guys on the planet
fp
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 17:13 (seven years ago) link
dgi
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 17:17 (seven years ago) link
flagging ur post bc u self-identified as happy in the emo thread
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 17:19 (seven years ago) link
if ur happy get out
LOL
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 17:20 (seven years ago) link
Agreed tbh
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 17:31 (seven years ago) link
idk if i'm often sad tbph, more like perpetually angsty and anxious
― Mordy, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 17:32 (seven years ago) link
i'll allow it
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 17:33 (seven years ago) link
I didn't nominate anything cause I was never really into the late '90s early '00s pop-punk emo, but this is a damn fine list of albums. I'll try to get a ballot together.
― ridiculous perm ban decision (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 17:34 (seven years ago) link
xxp - That's why you're running the poll and not me. I'm going to put on an I Hate Myself album now and see if it helps...
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 17:35 (seven years ago) link
OK gonna attempt to campaign for two of the bands on my nomination list: Hot Water Music and Small Brown Bike...
At their core these are very similar acts. Three word band names! Dense, detuned guitars! Scruffy dudes howling over each other in gruff voices! Both take cues from acts that came before: HWM, say, Leatherface; and SBB, say, HWM and Jawbreaker. Both at/were near the top of my late 90s-early 00s post-hardcore/emo-core/punk fandom.
Fuel for the Hate Game and Forever and Counting are the essential HWM albums for me because they manage to be both strong and sensitive, lyrical and gutteral, and complex yet simple in their execution in true punk style. The lyrics are damn near impossible to decipher (especially considering the singers are frequently singing different lines at the same time) but they still bring a sense of unity, purpose, and optimism. Musically, their rhythm section and syncopated play has always impressed me... dare I say they can even be "groovy"?
Key tracks for me: On Fuel, "Turnstile", "Blackjaw", "Drunken Third". On Forever, "Better Sense", "Just Don't Say You Lost It", "Minno".
Small Brown Bike, at first, sounds very similar to HWM. I know they played shows/toured together, and both were mainstays of No Idea Records during their careers. SBB is a bit more emo, I'd say -- more songs about relationships and less about scene unity. The fact that they're from my home state of Michigan definitely plays into their selection on my part, I've probably seen them live a dozen times. At times they feature three vocalists taking on different levels of screaming/shouting the words, often answering one another. Of these two albums, Our Own Wars is the earlier and probably the more complete work, but the production and live execution of Dead Reckoning was amazing in its time. Neither have held up as well as I feel the HWM albums have, but I still love them.
Key tracks: On Dead Reckoning, "Sleeping Weather", "This Ship Will Burn", "I Will Bury You In Me". On Our Own Wars, "The Cannons And Tanks", "Zerosum", "Make This A Holiday" -- the last being the best SBB song ever and one I'm not ashamed to admit I will scream along with at full volume if given the chance.
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 18:30 (seven years ago) link
"listen to I Hate Myself and see if that helps" would be an excellent name for the poll imo
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 18:32 (seven years ago) link
Turnstile is one of my fave songs ever.
― husked, tonal wails (irrational), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link
All of the experts say you ought to start them young. / That way they'll naturally love the taste of corporate cum.
<gag>
― Mordy, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 19:58 (seven years ago) link
lmao i love that line/song
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 20:04 (seven years ago) link
Hah, I assumed that line was from one of Dan's screamo bands, but then I looked it up. Good song!
― ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 20:26 (seven years ago) link
lol my shortlist turns out to be 107, and that's not including some of my absolute favorite records that I never considered emo before (Blood Brothers, Refused, Unwound). Time to do some trimming.
― THAC0 Pastorius (Tom Violence), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 21:36 (seven years ago) link
I wish refused had more songs about being sad
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 21:45 (seven years ago) link
ugh i def should've made the ballot larger. i guess 30 is plenty but my personal list would love to be ~50
― Mordy, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 21:46 (seven years ago) link
yeah, I'm about to cut serious classics of the genre and it hurts me inside, which is appropriate.
― THAC0 Pastorius (Tom Violence), Tuesday, 21 February 2017 21:48 (seven years ago) link
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Tuesday, February 21, 2017 10:19 AM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmao great exchange
― Spottie, Tuesday, 21 February 2017 23:16 (seven years ago) link
weird, i didn't even notice that only one piebald record was nominated and it's not my favorite piebald record
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 01:17 (seven years ago) link
crybald
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 01:27 (seven years ago) link