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do you even like dance music, miccio?

― mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:14 (twenty years ago) link

or electronic music? or what? that's a legit question.

― mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:17 (twenty years ago) link

totally. hell, I even mention in that post that I like most of side one of Remedy and the two singles I've heard off Rooty.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:20 (twenty years ago) link

though I like that you said dance music in your first post and then asked electronic instead in the second. I think that's the problem right there.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:21 (twenty years ago) link

"Planet Rock" > "Trans-Europe Express"
Human League > Kraftwerk

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:22 (twenty years ago) link

jazz > new age
people > possessions

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:33 (twenty years ago) link

It's too background music for me

Are you being contrary or just posting after listening to 10 seconds of each track? A little from column a/little from column b?

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:47 (twenty years ago) link

There's definitely an ounce of contrariness in the sense that I wouldn't bother to post this if people hadn't been squealing about it's glory. But nothing from column b.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

I may just be too personality-driven in my musical tastes to appreciate IDM-style stuff the way most of you guys do. The three guys making jokes helped Paul's Boutique a lot, and unlike Basement Jaxx I don't feel that just ANY three guys would have been just as good.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 18:55 (twenty years ago) link

IDM?

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:18 (twenty years ago) link

If I take the name Intelligent Dance Music at face value Kish Kash totally qualifies, though I assume IDM doesn't mean anything more than alternative rock does (other than possibly an excuse to not be accessible).

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:26 (twenty years ago) link

What's taking it at face value?

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:28 (twenty years ago) link

Holy shit, a techno fan asking me to explain terminology!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:33 (twenty years ago) link

The reviews for this record, with some exceptions, are all following the same script or something. A shitty script. "Y'know, Rooty was sooooooo overrated, hey, let's knock this one down a little to show the Jaxx are not gods." The the complaints about the density just shows why lotsa J-pop records would never get past the pigeonholing rag-writers in this country, there are far too many massive overgeneralisations about the album involving Prince, the number of guests is actually being used to argue against the album (annoying cause I agreed with Ronan (?) upthread about the 'anonymity' of Jaxx vocalists, plus the whole JC argument) and I could've ripped out the page when I found one reviewer whining about the lack of 'a step forward'. Wasn't it jess or stevem who recently said something about the pointlessness of looking for giant leaps and revolutions in music in this day and age?

(Barima in intolerance non-shocker)

― Barima is pronounced 'Burma' or one of many female orgasmic sounds (Barima), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:35 (twenty years ago) link

so you're not going to explain Anthony? can we presume jess was right above and let you stop digging. your opinion's your opinion but it doesn't seem too informed.

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:38 (twenty years ago) link

Pardon me for getting in the way there boys, but Anthony, are you taking IDM to mean 'sickening production skills, astounding studio mastery and impressive stereo mixing' or are you just perceiving a high concept in Kish Kash Ronan (and I) aren't getting?

(Most of the dance fans I know think IDM is a random, very meaningless and dumbass term, no 'fense)

― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:39 (twenty years ago) link

Xxxxxxxxxx-poooooooooooooooossssssssstttttttttttttttt!!!

― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:39 (twenty years ago) link

I still like Remedy better! I suspect it will never be topped in mine heart!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:41 (twenty years ago) link

miccio wtf is that 'context of abundance' ism bs up there - them college books messin wit yo head boy!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:43 (twenty years ago) link

: ) - it's just 'oh great, another ilxor who I'm not gonna understand wtf they're saying half the time'

― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:44 (twenty years ago) link

ie. SPEAK ENGLISH MUTHERFUKKER!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:44 (twenty years ago) link

Remedy is more the sort of music I like, ie house, but I think I can safely say I like Kish Kash better than any of the other albums now. I can't stop listening to If I Ever Recover and putting it on mixtapes. Dizzee single is only going to get even more fun as it breaks into the mainstream and fills some floors

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:44 (twenty years ago) link

I've been listening to Rooty on and off ('Breakaway' is my new fave song off that record), but I haven't found my way back to Remedy, despite 'Rendez-vu' being my Jaxx song for life. How wack am I?

Next single - 'Plug It In', round mid-January time?

― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:50 (twenty years ago) link

no Blount, just Koganisms.

Actually I was being a bit facetious when I referred to Basement Jaxx as IDM. I know they're not IDM because the D is actually valid. Taking the term at face value would be dance music that is "intelligent" and judging by the praise being heaped on the album, I'm surprised you'd take offense at my use of the term, Ronan. Besides, one doesn't have to have a Simon Reynolds glossary to understand whether music is moving you or not. Or to enjoy electronic or dance music. The only way my opinion could be cast aside as "uninformed" is if you're enjoying the album on some academic prog-type level, in which case my comment on this album being masturbatory would be dead-frikkin'-on.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:51 (twenty years ago) link

and to explain what I meant by "context of abundance." Kogan wrote this Disco Tex essay that everybody creams about where he talks about music where ANYTHING could happen (as opposed to say a Husker Du album where salsa couldn't possibly happen), this being a context of abundance. Kish Kash qualifies, but my problem is that it seems to be too busy reaffirming it's everythingness to actually say anything. Though may be I haven't been playing it loud enough to hear it say DANCE DANCE DANCE so I'll rectify that next time.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:54 (twenty years ago) link

typo in post before last. "heaped on the album, so I'm surprised"

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:55 (twenty years ago) link

FUCK. my typo explanation was wrong! there was no typo after all. sorry.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:57 (twenty years ago) link

I think there's an implication here that dance music is either intelligent or stupid, rather than good or bad. That good dance albums are "intelligent" and there's a remaining "rest" which aren't. That it's an either or, that exceptional in dance music is "not stupid/throwaway".

I also think you've no idea of the connotations of the term IDM, but that's less important.

Also I'm not really sure about this shit of "saying something", it's music for music's sake, like most worthwhile albums/singles, it doesn't have to "say" anything. That's our job.

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:00 (twenty years ago) link

dude, I don't actually like the term IDM. Again, I was basically making a joke. and album has to tell us why it's worth listening to, critics just repeat what they hear. So far Kish Kash just says it's got a lotta crazy sounds on it, not a lot of grabbing hooks.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:06 (twenty years ago) link

ok, that's fucking crazy. this album's all hooks.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:07 (twenty years ago) link

can't remember many myself (though how much do you wanna bet I'm gonna play the damn thing a little louder next time and come back and retract all this indifference?)

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:11 (twenty years ago) link

I'm sensing a divide between people who can perceive hooks in this album and those who can't. And I'm botherd.

― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:11 (twenty years ago) link

but until this volume-increased reappraisal I'm just gonna note that I doubt I'm gonna hear any of these "hooks" in a Coke ad in the next year.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:12 (twenty years ago) link

anthony I blasted half this thing at a frat party in south georgia. it held up. play it at a party. stop thinking of it as an album, feel free to skip the trax that don't grab you, then when you get tired of the trax that do grab you - lo and behold: more trax!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:14 (twenty years ago) link

don't listen to it alone unless you are in your car and you just got off work.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:14 (twenty years ago) link

Re: hooks - your point being? One of my co-workers has been singing 'Good Luck' all week (he's being playing it all week but all I can hear are the d'n'b synth squiggles at the end and an occasional snatch of (YES) the hook (!).

― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:15 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah so if it's not used in an ad then it can't have a hook. Pop music doesn't have to bludgeon you with a sledgehammer Anthony.

I think I've only listened to it alone but then I tend to imagine what everything I listen to would be like at a party.

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:16 (twenty years ago) link

when I hear 'good luck' I hear what I imagine people who liked 'crazy in love' heard when they heard 'crazy in love' (somebody demangle this)

― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:18 (twenty years ago) link

I'll follow yer logic tonight, Blount. And Ronan, it kinda does have to have an effect on you, whether it bludgeons you or kills you softly. But anyhow, I've spoken my peace until I give it the correct "ok I'm at a party I'm not chillin' at the crib" listen.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:18 (twenty years ago) link

haha and I loved "Crazy In Love" from the first time I heard it!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:18 (twenty years ago) link

Good Luck is astounding. Like many elastic bands in unison.

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

I think it's one of the best songs ever. To release it as a single would really spoil us.

― adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:26 (twenty years ago) link

And I hate The Bellrays so much!

― adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:27 (twenty years ago) link

I am scared it will appear at the end of some film where someone teaches someone a lesson. Or on an ad with someone telling someone off and strutting off independently.

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:30 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, it's tailor made to strut independently and look forward to a brighter tomorrow to.

And Plug It In will be behind some exciting premiership highlights soon enough.

― adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:35 (twenty years ago) link

"Today's moment of romantic entanglement and emotional turmoil on Smallville was brought to you by Basement Jaxx and Lisa Kekaula with 'Good Luck'".

Hey Anthony, good luck in your new bed! I hope you'll enjoy the record eventually.

― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link

re:sports highlights. On the last 5-6 years' evidence, this is in fact "Red Alert's" raison d'etre, no?

― adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:37 (twenty years ago) link

They use The Terrace on BBC! Wasn't Fatboy Slim's I'm Going Out Of My Head popular too?

― Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:39 (twenty years ago) link

"Red Alert" also sold Coke for awhile. I think I heard "Where's Your Head At?" in a million ads too.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 19 October 2003 20:44 (twenty years ago) link

Including PRINGLES! Where the handlebar mustachioed mascot SANG ALONG!

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 19 October 2003 21:11 (twenty years ago) link

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