fyre festival is going well

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lol lavish vacations from what?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:26 (seven years ago) link

Being 'awesome'

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:36 (seven years ago) link

Just wait, guys! Prison will be "epic".

Let’s just do it and be legends, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 23:53 (seven years ago) link

"...hidden treasures accessible only by jet-ski."

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:16 (seven years ago) link

Serious logistical planning for the festival didn’t even begin until late February or early March — less than two months before the thousands of people McFarland had sold a luxury vacation on a private island were scheduled to arrive.

The employee said McFarland would often urinate in the office with the door open for employees to see. “It’s a boys club,” the employee said. “They laugh about it.” Another former contractor called the environment “low-key sexist and racist.”

“They were trying to get us to use our own cards for the hotel rooms,” a member of the production team said. “And the owners were just walking around with giant wads of hundreds to pay people off.”

A former Fyre employee said McFarland sold Ja Rule a “pipe dream,” though there’s evidence to suggest the seasoned recording artist should have known better. Video hyping the festival he posted on Twitter and later deleted includes footage of the main stage, which had walk-up stairs and lacked barricades or an exit for EMS. “People would have died,” the production employee said.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:30 (seven years ago) link

this shit is so entertaining. hands-down this is better than Dumb and Dumber.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:35 (seven years ago) link

Lefsetz, he has opinions...

http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/2017/04/28/fyre-festival/

...and then goes through the looking glass

http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/2017/05/02/more-fyre-festival/

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 May 2017 01:26 (seven years ago) link

Literally the last person I want to hear on that.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 01:31 (seven years ago) link

i love how 'WE'RE the party!' is 'the EDM ethos'. he's only about 30 years out of date with that one. pretty typical of someone in their 60s who bangs on about 'oldsters'.

piscesx, Thursday, 4 May 2017 01:39 (seven years ago) link

He actually uses the word "oldsters". . . a lot.

Austin, Thursday, 4 May 2017 02:00 (seven years ago) link

eating pussy keeps him young.

(±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Thursday, 4 May 2017 02:23 (seven years ago) link

jut had a bad michael douglas flashback

wouldn't wish cancer on anyone but tbh lefsetz is kind of a walking cancer

a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 4 May 2017 02:30 (seven years ago) link

--Bob Marley

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 4 May 2017 08:02 (seven years ago) link

This is kind of the perfect scandal where you can hate the scammers and the marks equally

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 4 May 2017 12:52 (seven years ago) link

yes it is like a slow motion car crash where nobody gets hurt

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 4 May 2017 12:54 (seven years ago) link

That one lady got a really bad sunburn

your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Thursday, 4 May 2017 13:01 (seven years ago) link

that was one of the promised "solar tattoos"

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 4 May 2017 13:02 (seven years ago) link

This feels...wrong....but......Lefsetz OTM???

It’s a professional business, a skill, requiring boatloads of money and relationships. To believe you can become a successful concert promoter overnight is to believe you can shoot hoops in your backyard and instantly start for the Warriors.

i think it's hilarious that they're trying to continue the scam, offering tickets for the future non-existent Fyre 2018 instead of refunds.

nomar, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:05 (seven years ago) link

I keep thinking of the good old boy network that basically boils down to "I know a guy" or "Hey buddy, do you know a guy?" when it comes to this stuff and the problem is these dudes did not know anyone, and the people they did get they didn't listen to

might have even worked, if they didn't try to find their guys two months (!!) before the concert date

a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link

like their concierge club card scam was failing because they were obviously just getting broadway show tickets via stubhub and other perks via similar services and instead of checking availability they were just like "uhh yeah we can get you a flight/concert ticket" and then calling to say it didn't work out later

a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:14 (seven years ago) link

this really does seem like a cross between that VNYL record club scam and Kamp Krusty

nomar, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:16 (seven years ago) link

has anyone made a kamp krusty edit where it's a recording of ja rule introducing "billy" instead of krusty introducing "mr. black"?

a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:19 (seven years ago) link

Third lawsuit's been filed.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:25 (seven years ago) link

has anyone made a kamp krusty edit where it's a recording of ja rule introducing "billy" instead of krusty introducing "mr. black"?

shockingly no! can i steal this idea w your permission? i will give you a shout out on AV Club

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:35 (seven years ago) link

wow i've been owned

a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:38 (seven years ago) link

The old boys network has a leeeeetle savvy and connex but more basically, it has slaves and maybe concubines. The young boys network is just spoiled dumbasses who want concubines. lefsetz maybe thinks OBN works on just savvy maybe, but not me.

we have no facts and we're voting no (Hunt3r), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:56 (seven years ago) link

did you just refer to grown women as concubines

a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:57 (seven years ago) link

sorry, that was horrible too: did you refer to human beings as "concubines" and remove agency because wtf

a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:57 (seven years ago) link

not to mention the "slaves" comment, people have agency even if they're under the heel of moneyed whatever-percenters

and tbrr the "guys" are likely to include a few people with mob ties

a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 4 May 2017 17:59 (seven years ago) link

my favourite bit from the whole thing:

http://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5907a8bd16779f27abc0a31d/master/w_768,c_limit/fyre-festival-pitch-deck-29.png

piscesx, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:00 (seven years ago) link

mh it was intended to sound shitty and offensive and I agree, it does. Space I'm in, about goings on. sorry.

point on agency is taken.

we have no facts and we're voting no (Hunt3r), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:07 (seven years ago) link

this really does seem like a cross between that VNYL record club scam and Kamp Krusty

YES

Impartial Father (stevie), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:36 (seven years ago) link

my favourite bit from the whole thing:

http://media.vanityfair.com/photos/5907a8bd16779f27abc0a31d/master/w_768,c_limit/fyre-festival-pitch-deck-29.png

― piscesx, Thursday, May 4, 2017 2:00 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is incredible

qualx, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:39 (seven years ago) link

i'm pretty sure this is the exact plot of the dreamworks animated film The Boss Baby

qualx, Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:40 (seven years ago) link

I made that slide into the header for my Facebook page

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Thursday, 4 May 2017 18:45 (seven years ago) link

from the last slide on the Vanity Fair power point article:

"Fuck Jerry: Social Media - From the success of his personal instagram account, Eliot Tebele has build an empire through social media. Though thoughtful content strategy, FuckJerry references in-depth analytics to ensure that the data behind content performance is aligned with creative direction. Analytics are based on three factors: audience, engagement and optimization."

pavane to the darryl of strawberry (bendy), Thursday, 4 May 2017 19:03 (seven years ago) link

with the "three factors", we know where they stand on the Oxford comma

pavane to the darryl of strawberry (bendy), Thursday, 4 May 2017 19:05 (seven years ago) link

I mean "concubines" better describes what the young boys' network wants than grown women

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Thursday, 4 May 2017 19:08 (seven years ago) link

if I was writing fan fiction from their standpoint I'd use it, maybe

a landlocked exclave (mh), Thursday, 4 May 2017 19:21 (seven years ago) link

Understand brand goals >> Fuck like porn stars >> Go to prison

dinnerboat, Thursday, 4 May 2017 19:33 (seven years ago) link

http://variety.com/2017/music/news/fyre-festival-employees-reveal-chaos-1202409085/

The two production professionals became concerned as soon as they came on board. “They had fired a [previous production company], so we took a look at how much had been done — and there were so many red flags,” one said. “Things like water [supply], bathrooms and other everyday structures that should have been in place six months before — none of that had been done. We all said to them, ‘It takes at least eight months to a year to produce a festival, you have to push the date’ — we stressed that and said that over and over. And they were like ‘It’ll be fine, it’s not that big of a deal.’ They kept making it seem like we were exaggerating. It was like they didn’t care.”Even appealing to the young entrepreneurs’ reputations among the rich-millennial set they coveted had little effect.

“We said, ‘What you’ve promised [in statements and advertising promoting the festival] as opposed to what we’re even maybe capable of delivering in this amount of time is not the same. You’re going to destroy your brand if you try to have it on this date and don’t deliver what you promised. If you push the date a year, people will be upset. But once you deliver what you promised, they’ll get over it.’ But it was like they didn’t care: They literally kept saying, ‘We’re gonna be legends.'”

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 4 May 2017 19:57 (seven years ago) link

They literally kept saying, ‘We’re gonna be legends.'”

lmao at these chumps

i mean honestly i've driven myself batty trying to book a 4 band weeknight show at a fucking dive bar in minneapolis, putting on a festival must be a living hell

This is the telling bit I think:

“The marketing person behind this entire thing is Grant,” one said. “He kept saying in meetings, ‘I’m a marketing genius, I’m a prodigy — [the concerns] don’t matter, we’re gonna sell this and it’s gonna be amazing.’ He said that over and over and over. And after we went down to the Bahamas to assess the situation and we realized there was no possible way [the festival] was going to happen, he told the man who hired us that he wasn’t happy with (us) because we were a bunch of women who didn’t smile enough.”

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link

man, u can't make this stuff up

HONOR THE FYRE (sleeve), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link

They literally kept saying, ‘We’re gonna be legends.'”

tbf If this had even gone just poorly instead of disastrously we still wouldn't know anything about these guys

duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:05 (seven years ago) link

i mean honestly i've driven myself batty trying to book a 4 band weeknight show at a fucking dive bar in minneapolis, putting on a festival must be a living hell

I like to tell this story sometimes -- I've been to a number of the Terrastock festivals over the years, and they're all (essentially by default) somewhat shoestring affairs, relying a lot on volunteer time, connections and a bit of luck. They've all worked, mind you -- seven were held all told and even with some bizarre last minute problems once or twice, they've all been great weekends. But I saw and sensed how hard everyone worked to put them on -- and especially since you can so rarely actually enjoy any of the performances -- and whenever I thought it would be good to be a point person for a future Terrastock I realized after five seconds 'Wait, are you crazy?'

The demonstrative anecdote -- Jeffrey Rosenberg was the key guy behind the sixth Terrastock in Providence. Again, great effort all around, possibly my favorite of the five I attended but they were all wonderful in their own ways. So he's also playing a set with his then-band, Black Forest/Black Sea. About halfway through his set, he got down on the floor for some reason -- prepping an instrument or a pedal or just playing along on a quiet number -- and the poor guy literally fell asleep; his wife/bandmate Miriam had to wake him up with a gentle tap of her bow.

But everyone KNEW he'd been working that hard and understood, and it showed. So every story about this fiasco is almost the exact and total opposite, and it's an amazing contrast to easily be able to draw on in my mind.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:08 (seven years ago) link

yeah god bless the ppl who do stuff like terrastock (for ex. luke here in mpls is a saint for doing the drone not drones 24 nonstop show every year)

but these shitheads are so dumb they think it's gonna be FUN to put on a festival


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