m/r/radiohead/comments/6ix8wv/some_details_on_contents_of_oknotok_cassette/
SIDE 1Let Down (acoustic)[UNKNOWN SONG WTF]Motion Picture Soundtrack (piano acoustic)Climbing Up the Walls (creepy little girl spoken word version)[Karma Police sketches]2 Fitter 2 HappierNo Surprises PleaseTalk Show Host (early version)
SIDE 2Climbing Up the Walls (trip-hop version)[Paranoid Android sketches]An Airbag Saved My LifeBig Ideas (Don't Get Any)The National Anthem (early version)
― Karl Malone, Friday, 23 June 2017 17:12 (seven years ago) link
[UNKNOWN SONG WTF]
I trust this is the actual title.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 June 2017 17:13 (seven years ago) link
i don't know about everyone else but i'm approximately 100000000000% more excited about this than hearing the studio versions of i promise, big boots, and lift. nothing against those songs, but i've been listening to those since high school and went through the full cycle of obsession with them a long time ago.
i'm trying not to get my hopes up too much because i expect them to be really rough cuts, and i realize there's a reason they left these old versions behind, but i want to hear them noooowwwww
― Karl Malone, Friday, 23 June 2017 17:15 (seven years ago) link
yeah i feel exactly the same. i've wanted to hear alt-arrangements of Motion Picture Soundtrack & the National Anthem for years. and iirc the rhythm track of the final version of The National Anthem was recorded during the OKC sessions, or shortly thereafter, maybe when they were putting together that Airbag EP. so this is either the Kid A base rhythm track OR an entirely different early rough version, yeahhh so who has the cassette
― flappy bird, Friday, 23 June 2017 17:22 (seven years ago) link
hopefully it'll hit soulseek at some point
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 23 June 2017 17:49 (seven years ago) link
listening to these c-sides on spotify, yall this band seriously DOES NOT KNOW WHAT THEIR BEST SONGS ARE i hate them so much
― nice cage (m bison), Saturday, 24 June 2017 03:43 (seven years ago) link
Lift is a song that really sneaks up on you... fucking brilliant. but another victim of Creep PTSD
― flappy bird, Saturday, 24 June 2017 03:53 (seven years ago) link
haha just came here to say "lift" is the one, im not bowled over by the rest of the new three.
― nice cage (m bison), Saturday, 24 June 2017 04:00 (seven years ago) link
where is melissa w
― mookieproof, Saturday, 24 June 2017 04:03 (seven years ago) link
Lift is the bomb but this new released version is pretty much identical to the one that's been floating around since 1996, just sayin''''''''''mmmm pizza
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 24 June 2017 04:07 (seven years ago) link
― global tetrahedron
everything hits slsk, except apparently for the toulouse record which exists only on rym threads from 2003
― Rodney Stooksbury for President (rushomancy), Saturday, 24 June 2017 04:12 (seven years ago) link
"i promise" is their masterpiece; unfortunately, it contains no music.
― Rodney Stooksbury for President (rushomancy), Saturday, 24 June 2017 04:19 (seven years ago) link
After hearing the acoustic version of 'Motion Picture Soundtrack', I was surprised/delighted when I heard the studio version on Kid A - I'm not expecting an acoustic piano version of it to be revelatory, nor would I expect the early version of 'The National Anthem' to be much different - some different lyrics/no lyrics at all and def. no horns.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 24 June 2017 12:36 (seven years ago) link
In other words, I'll take the studio versions of 'I Promise', 'Big Boots' and 'Lift' and quite happily forget about this cassette. There's nothing on there that I particularly feel any great need to hear aside from the "unknown song" ...
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 24 June 2017 12:37 (seven years ago) link
Now that all of these final studio recordings are available I can see why they were left off. They all sound like out takes from 'The Bends' instead of thematically part of 'O.K. Computer' and none of them improve upon their live versions ("Lift" in particular is much weaker, imo).
Reminds me a bit of "Videotape" except the final studio recording of that is so radically different that it compliments the live version quite nicely and keeps that live version a bit mythical (what would the original sound like with a proper studio take?)
― yesca, Saturday, 24 June 2017 13:05 (seven years ago) link
The studio version of 'Videotape' is the definitive version, IMO.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 24 June 2017 13:24 (seven years ago) link
my favourite Videotape arrangement is the version they've been playing live from 2008 onwards, it's a midpoint between the studio version and the 2006 version https://youtu.be/q9RnH6iXQvw
― ufo, Saturday, 24 June 2017 13:37 (seven years ago) link
the studio cut of lift is like 10% too slow it doesn't capture the propulsive-ness of the live versions. still a good song tho probably would have been more appropriate on the bends than okc
― ciderpress, Saturday, 24 June 2017 14:13 (seven years ago) link
Yeah that live version of videotape that mixes the energy of previous live versions with the syncopated rhythms of the studio version is amazing, wish that was the studio version.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 24 June 2017 14:46 (seven years ago) link
the counter argument to this is the HTTT era, where exactly the right songs were left as b-sides (even if maybe a couple of the album tracks should also have been left off)
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 24 June 2017 14:51 (seven years ago) link
i'm genuinely surprised the tape hasn't leaked yet. wasn't the release date yesterday?
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 24 June 2017 14:59 (seven years ago) link
yeah me too.
― piscesx, Saturday, 24 June 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link
the box set with the tape download code isn't shipping until July
I agree about Lift being just a little too slow, it would still be one of the best songs on The Bends though
― ufo, Saturday, 24 June 2017 17:06 (seven years ago) link
d'oh, thanks! i was thinking all formats shipped on the 23rd.
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 24 June 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link
the counter argument to this is the HTTT era, where exactly the right songs were left as b-sides (even if maybe a couple of the album tracks should also have been left off)― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, June 24, 2017 10:51 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, June 24, 2017 10:51 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
which of these are better than songs on HTTT? i only ever heard the There There single with Paperbag Writer and Where Bluebirds Fly, the former of which I don't remember and the latter I really love but it's an instrumental - where would it go on the record?
Paperbag WriterWhere Bluebirds FlyI Am Citizen InsaneGaggjng OrderI Am a Wicked Child
― flappy bird, Saturday, 24 June 2017 21:20 (seven years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/arts/music/radiohead-ok-computer-influences-playlist.html
Odd that it doesn't site "Tiptoe Through The Tulips" as an additional reference point.
― bodacious ignoramus, Saturday, 24 June 2017 22:00 (seven years ago) link
the nick lucas version?
― Rodney Stooksbury for President (rushomancy), Saturday, 24 June 2017 22:02 (seven years ago) link
Gagging Order is the only HTTT b-side i like, idk if a acoustic guitar + vocals only song would ever feel at home on a radiohead LP though
― ciderpress, Saturday, 24 June 2017 22:02 (seven years ago) link
Simon H. is OTM - none of those songs would have fit on Hail to the Thief, which probably would benefit from being at least 3 or 4 songs shorter.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 24 June 2017 22:57 (seven years ago) link
which ones would you cut?
― flappy bird, Saturday, 24 June 2017 23:19 (seven years ago) link
I still don't understand how they made two records out of the 'Kid A' sessions, and on neither one were two of the best three or four tracks from the whole thing, 'Kinetic' and 'Worrywort,' both of which I feel like presage a lot of the best Radiohead work of later years. Both would be among the most successful of Yorke's stabs at "electronic" music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q906M5_Vfw
― Soundslike, Sunday, 25 June 2017 00:53 (seven years ago) link
(Skip to 9:57 on that--the other b-sides were otherwise mediocre)
― Soundslike, Sunday, 25 June 2017 00:54 (seven years ago) link
i'd add fog to that list, too. one of my favorite things they've ever done
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 25 June 2017 00:55 (seven years ago) link
still so gobsmacked that "Cuttooth" (skip to 22:45 in the video above) didn't make it on any album bcz it is def one of their strongest b-sides but also like str8 up one of their strongest songs imo??? I mean in its current form it wouldn't have fit neatly into either Kid A or Amnesiac but like just throw some crunchy glitchy electronics on it ffs
― he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 25 June 2017 01:00 (seven years ago) link
amnesiac is def the canonical "b-sides better than the album cuts" radiohead album. can't object too much with the rest of the records. yeah "talk show host" was good enough for a record but i'm not about to go out and demand they drop "sulk" to make room for "the trickster" or whatever.
― Rodney Stooksbury for President (rushomancy), Sunday, 25 June 2017 01:03 (seven years ago) link
i agree. but since you mention it, pulling the old switcheroo with talk show host + permanent daylight with high and dry + bulletproof would actually improve the album quite a bit imo
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 25 June 2017 01:12 (seven years ago) link
still so gobsmacked that "Cuttooth" (skip to 22:45 in the video above) didn't make it on any album bcz it is def one of their strongest b-sides but also like str8 up one of their strongest songs imo???
That's so funny, because seeing that compilation and hearing that track reminded me it existed, I'd hated it so much when it came out. Really presaged their sludgy thing of thinking they were riding a groove a la Can circa 'Hail to the Thief,' when really they were just plodding aimlessly. It doesn't have songcraft, it doesn't have an interesting structure, it's boringly produced, it doesn't have an interesting beat. . . Man I guess I still hate it ; )
― Soundslike, Sunday, 25 June 2017 01:35 (seven years ago) link
'Fog' and 'Cuttooth' are both essential Radiohead, IMO. Sure, 'Cuttooth' is a bit rough in the recording but I love it.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Sunday, 25 June 2017 08:39 (seven years ago) link
There's nothing about The Bends that I would change, really... the best of the B-sides from that period would make up a very good record, though.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Sunday, 25 June 2017 08:41 (seven years ago) link
i ordered the box set >_<
― global tetrahedron, Sunday, 25 June 2017 22:20 (seven years ago) link
I love Cuttooth.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 26 June 2017 10:21 (seven years ago) link
bonus tape is floating around out there
Side A:Zx sprectrum symphonyAMS HelloTrue Love Tape LoopLet Down (Thom 4Track)I may be paranoid but not an andoroid...Attention (Thom 4Track)Noise sketch by NigelClimbing up the walls (Abbey Road Strings)Someone help this guy..Motion Picture Soundtrack solo pianoWas that recordingThe jumbled words of climbing up the walls read by little Dan ClementsLull (ed guitar infinite reverb)Airbag Drums through MoogKarma Police in space echoKarma Police voice through telephonbe(Talking)Piano sketch by JonnyBid bird story by Stanley DonwoodNo surprises (first idea from soundcheck somewhere)Radio chaser noiseFridge BuzzTrue Love Space Loop(Talking)Are you Someone?Side B:Nigel AMS DelayJonnys Radio from Climbing up the wallsClimbing up the walls (Thom 4track)A piano lies down in the middle of the roadTransposing Noise sketch by NigelEarly paranoid android version by Jonny and ThomAlternative Paranoid Android ending live in PittsburgAirbag early acoustic version(Talking)Paranoid Android Loud Room at St CatherinesNigel AMS paranoid guitar sampleNude early band versionThe national anthem (Thom 4 track)Ambient LoopsMan of WEar live in MontpellierNigel AMS delay againThoms acoustic as microphone in Climbing up the WallsOk Computer program
Side B:Nigel AMS DelayJonnys Radio from Climbing up the wallsClimbing up the walls (Thom 4track)A piano lies down in the middle of the roadTransposing Noise sketch by NigelEarly paranoid android version by Jonny and ThomAlternative Paranoid Android ending live in PittsburgAirbag early acoustic version(Talking)Paranoid Android Loud Room at St CatherinesNigel AMS paranoid guitar sampleNude early band versionThe national anthem (Thom 4 track)Ambient LoopsMan of WEar live in MontpellierNigel AMS delay againThoms acoustic as microphone in Climbing up the WallsOk Computer program
― Number None, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link
I don't understand why this wasn't made widely available. I would pay $10-20 bucks to hear this tape but instead I'm going to go find a rip of it somewhere. What's the damage? Just put a zip file up on W.A.S.T.E. and I'm there.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 22:23 (six years ago) link
yeah, same
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 22:27 (six years ago) link
i don't understand why they even bothered with the rest of the reissue, this shit actually sounds interesting
seriously people would rather listen to "i promise" than somebody in the band farting around on a zx spectrum? what is wrong with people.
― The Saga of Rodney Stooksbury (rushomancy), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 02:26 (six years ago) link
I gave up on people
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 03:21 (six years ago) link
it's not just bumbling around in the studio, the Let Down demo alone sounds incredible. the full tracklist above is almost too much to take in. and i still haven't found a rip
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 03:33 (six years ago) link
hearing all the demos is fascinating, especially the early version of The National Anthem, and Motion Picture Soundtrack and Nude are fantastic here
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 03:46 (six years ago) link
I would love to listen to their outtakes and experiments because their recorded output is obviously meticulously controlled and their live performances don't include much room for improv (cue someone telling me about jonnys guitar solos or thom moaninv slightly differently but come on when a Radiohead song starts, live, you pretty much know exactly how it will proceed)
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 03:51 (six years ago) link
Wait has this shit leaked yet?
Fuuuuck I gotta get on it
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 03:52 (six years ago) link