"Freestate" takes forever to get where it's going, but once it gets there, it's great. They could have chopped a minute or so out of "Home", as well.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link
That's the one vocal on the album which was recorded when he was still in his smack hell. It's edited together from about thirty takes!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Super Cub (Debito), Monday, 24 October 2005 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Super Cub (Debito), Monday, 24 October 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Super Cub (Debito), Monday, 24 October 2005 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link
I think the only one that annoys me even slightly is "Freestate" because I don't really like it when Gore's recent tendency to become positive 'n' preachy - but even then it's only because it feels like it prepares the way for "Freelove", and yeah, the last half is killer. "Barrell of a Gun" occasionally annoys me because it seems a bit try-hard, but then at other times I love the very same thing about it.
"Insight" is awesome, "Sister of Night" is probably better for that huge synth riff than for the singing, but best of all the album tracks is "The Bottom Line" for me.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 24 October 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link
No, you couldn't. "The Love Thieves" is the best track on the entire album.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 24 October 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 October 2005 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Kim (Kim), Monday, 24 October 2005 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link
I must agree with whoever posted that I've always loved 'Never Let Me Down Again'. It's just so fucking HUGE. Yes, it is, particularly the version on one of the live DVDs that I have - One Night in Paris? Been a while since I watched it. However, filler such as Pimpf dragges Music for the Masses down as an album, imho.
― John Hunter, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 06:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 23 July 2006 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark e (mark e), Friday, 20 October 2006 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 6 November 2006 06:20 (seventeen years ago) link
"Strangelove" is not the single version and that's a good thing, because I like the machine gear loop noise and that barely audible bell-like synth bit then BAM BAM BAM and it's suddenly bass and drums that in its brute simplicity could be, I dunno, Prince 1984 in Eastern Europe or something. Motown 1971 after the apocalypse when the robots took over. The guitar on this one is subtle compared to That Riff on "Never Let Me Down Again" but like on so many later songs it's this lovely shading hiding out amid the strident synth riff that's this unmissable nag nag nag. And the song's about circular codependency of extremism in 'love' or somesuch. I like how at the end there's a part where Gahan calls and responses and then suddenly where his voice 'should' be a sudden high synth bit squirrels across the mix.
― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Monday, 6 November 2006 06:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― All The Furniture Is In The Garage (Bimble...), Monday, 6 November 2006 06:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― All The Furniture Is In The Garage (Bimble...), Monday, 6 November 2006 06:25 (seventeen years ago) link
I love you love me love
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 6 November 2006 07:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Charlie Howard, Thursday, 1 March 2007 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 1 March 2007 18:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 1 March 2007 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link
Does it really have anything to do with the "joys of drug use" though??
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 March 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 1 March 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 4 March 2007 00:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 4 March 2007 00:49 (seventeen years ago) link
― gershy, Sunday, 4 March 2007 02:21 (seventeen years ago) link
Ultra is easily the best of their 90s albums IMO; it's much more cohesive than SOFAD and it isn't completely forgettable two weeks later the way that Exciter is.
funny how 7 years later I don't really like Ultra all that much and am really, really, really bullish on Exciter (which still isn't as good as Violator)
― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 27 April 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
also, "Never Let Me Down", "Strangelove" and "The Things You Said" all own hardcore
Especially in their various album mixes.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 April 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
oh yeah, the single version of "Strangelove" is TERRIBLE and embarrassing tbh
I don't think there's a version of "Never Let Me Down Again" that I've heard that I've disliked, though
― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 27 April 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
There is not one song on this album that I dislike.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
I like the remix of "Behind the Wheel" that was on the single more than the album version (probably because I heard the single first)
― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 27 April 2012 18:35 (twelve years ago) link
I had all of the remixes back in the day on a cassette tape, but I couldn't even tell you what they sounded like now.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Friday, 27 April 2012 19:10 (twelve years ago) link
I like this record but still prefer Violator even if I think about it for more than a few seconds the later album has as much filler.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 April 2012 19:14 (twelve years ago) link
violator is the ne plus ultra of zero filler albums!
― Touché Gödel (ledge), Friday, 27 April 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link
don't like "Blue Dress" or "Clean"
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 April 2012 19:26 (twelve years ago) link
well that's just crazy
― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 27 April 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
Great thread, yawl. What a magnificent op too. Love the love for Agent Orange, I keep going back to it. They have some very pretty instrumentals.
Ned, I hope you're going to vote in this one.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 27 April 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
Alas, you'll have to make do without me.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 April 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link
booooooooooooooooooooo
― I'M THAT POSTA, AAAAAAAAAH (DJP), Friday, 27 April 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
it would be politically and philosophically incorrect to know Ned's top 20 songs by any of his favorite bands. he gave us Ned's Nineties and anyone who dares connect the dots further from there is on their own.
― pizza pizza and cult jam (crüt), Friday, 27 April 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
Our loss that any alliterative decades are a long ways off (unless he has a Scooby Doo-style change of heart in 28 years and brings us Raggett's Rirties).
― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Friday, 27 April 2012 23:32 (twelve years ago) link