I got addicted to Ballerina through his live sets. Particularly this one ....
https://youtu.be/mRpLokqyQF0
― that's not my post, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 03:21 (six years ago) link
^formatting fail. That leads to the Pacific High Studio version from 1971. Hard not to hit repeat after listening.
― that's not my post, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 03:23 (six years ago) link
gonna take full advantage of the 1-day extension, 4-5 spots left on my ballot
― sleeve, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 04:40 (six years ago) link
ok here's a great them song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or_-J0wKpSw
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 12:22 (six years ago) link
i had also never heard "friday's child" before this poll and wow
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 12:46 (six years ago) link
anyway i submitted my ballot
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 12:49 (six years ago) link
Zappa & Van had history: The Mothers (and The Doors, and Beefheart!) opened for Them on their only US tour w/Morrison in '66.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, July 31, 2017 5:30 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Jim Morrison was a huge fan of Them (a band I get the sense that any recorded material can't really convey what they were as a force of nature during a small club date in the mid-60s) and also is said to have studied Van's stage moves in Them very carefully and adopted them for his Lizard King dramatics
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 13:47 (six years ago) link
OK, so tomorrow is the last full day of voting. Please have your ballots in by 12 AM, August 3. Rollout starts on Thursday and we'll finish up on Friday.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 14:09 (six years ago) link
the "friday's child" from that pacific high 71 bootleg is unbelievable (as is most of the rest of that show)
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link
http://www.thatericalper.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Van-and-Jim-Morrison.jpgjim van morrison
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 14:40 (six years ago) link
(plus sherlock holmes on the sax!)
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link
not enough deerstalkers in music nowadays imo
― the shape of a hot willie lumpkin (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link
i regret not voting for "fire in the belly"
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 14:57 (six years ago) link
Let me tell you, the results of this are pretty surprising thus far.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link
that is the greatest photo
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link
listening to Enlightenment right now. Dude is so weird, "Cleaning Windows" he goes "I'm a workin' man in my prime (lol you haven't worked a day in yr life Van), CLEANIN' WINDOWS!" then, oddly he just speaks, matter of factly "Number 36" before a sax solo
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 15:45 (six years ago) link
also really regret not voting for "dweller on the threshold," specifically the faster live version from 1984
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
"van is a saxophone" theory falls apart on "Almost Independence Day" where he is a guitar and "When Heart is Open" where he is a harmonica
― Gaspard de la Nuit: III. ScarJost (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link
Can't see cleaning windows on my copy of /enlightenment/ but man is it a ropey album
― wtev, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link
Will probably make my ballot because of the Glastonbury recording. Such a great set. Most of my post 74 picks will be as a result of that gig
― wtev, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link
rave on
― wtev, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link
holy shit that glastonbury 87 setlist is incredible
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link
Sorry summertime in England. The vocal interplay with one of the backing singers towards the end is phenomenal. And the line about Avalon strikes a local chord...
― wtev, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link
It was a revelatory experience.
― wtev, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
I was trying to find time at the weekend to put the tracks somewhere for you all to hear but I ran out of time
― wtev, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:26 (six years ago) link
i found a bootleg and i'm def gonna listen to it after i finish live at the grand opera house
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:29 (six years ago) link
btw is there a definitive Van Morrison biography/history book?
It's weird for how much I love him I don't really KNOW that much about him.
One thing that I'm curious about as I work through his discography is what occurs from 1974 (Veedon Fleece) to 1977 (A Period of Transition)...like from 68 to 74 he's basically dropping a classic to really good album a year, and while they all have a differences, they all seem of a piece somehow...then there's an uncharacteristic (esp for those days in the industry) gap of 3 years between albums, and then A Period of Transition definitely feels like we're in a different place now, the "classic" era is done or we're evolving into some other era, I guess an aptly named album (if pretty mediocre itself)
does anyone know what was going on w/Van at that point? Or was it just like coming off a historic run like that and being out of gas/worn out?
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link
he became a scientologist for a while in the early 80s: i have a friend who saw him proselytising outside their shopfront in tottenham court road, offering personality tests to passersby
― mark s, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link
(so he has worked a day in his life)
― mark s, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link
maybe when he says "136" in "cleaning windows" he's referencing axiom 136 of dianetics: "the mind is plastically capable of recording all efforts and counter-efforts"
― mark s, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link
There was a scrapped post-Veedon Fleece album that would have used the cover that became The Royal Scam.
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link
this unreleased 75 session popped up a little while ago -- though I don't think any of it has leaked. if you've got 10 grand to spare ... https://recordmecca.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/IMG_3379.jpghttps://recordmecca.com/products-page/museum-quality-collectibles/van-morrison-master-tape-of-unreleased-1975-studio-album-9-completely-uncirculated-studio-tracks/would love to hear "Grits Ain't Groceries" lol
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link
well that explains some of the '75 recordings on philosopher's stone
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link
i found a bootleg and i'm def gonna listen to it after i finish /live at the grand opera house/
Cool. It was fm quality so should sound good. Would be interested in your verdict.
― wtev, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
You're probably right. Nothing is off the table with van.
― wtev, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
i'll def need to download a new bootleg bc there's a lot of weird problems with this one, but the audio quality itself is still v good. his band sounds so buoyant in this era, or maybe i'm projecting onto how fun "dweller" and "cleaning windows" sound to play xp
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link
fair amount of van boots yonder: http://www.ousterhout.net/mp3/vm.html
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link
Speaking of unreleased Van, would be nice if he signed off on the live 1968 Astral Weeks tape currently collecting dust at Peter Wolf's house.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link
the version I knew of "Grits Ain't Groceries" was an ooooold country tune but I'm guessing this was Van's jam in '75
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vel5wqOURMo
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link
Update: Tomorrow is the last day to vote. Right now this thing is a tossup, there is a handful of songs that could easily win, and albums is wide open as well.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link
XP Also a career-making hit (under the title "All Around The World") for Little Willie John in the mid-'50s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XHC-qZXOyI
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link
working my way through the discography
Wavelength is pretty bad
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link
i disagree!!!
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link
i couldn't find room for it on my ballot but i really love "take it where you find it" and how it slowly loosens into this enormous gospel song
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:11 (six years ago) link
I'm to the title track now and it's my fav so far. It's funny I was like "Is Garth Hudson on this?" and it turns out he was, he's so distinctive, esp once he gets into synths, in fact this is a good song
Venice USA was such a pastiche of late period Band it turned me off tho
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link
Wavelength album is uneven but utterly key imo.
Checkin' It Out > Kingdom Hall > Wavelength > Natalia > Hungry for Your Love
― okapi paste (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link
kornrulez is there a time cut-off tomorrow (2nd Aug)? I'm on GMT.
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link
holy crap at the opening...
https://youtu.be/Ndt3bVNcug0
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link
on to Into the Music, really good so far...I love "Full Force Gale", seems like he's trying to get back to the Caledonia Soul Orchestra sound here but a bit more modern
― Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link
"rave on john donne" merging into "did ye get healed" at the end of the '87 glastonbury show = a+
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link