I still think there is a complete division between the US stuff and the UK originated stuff to the point where I don't really think they are they same gentre
yes to this, but without slint + gybe it would be hard to connect first wave uk stuff to the quiet/loud boreathons of latter day uk + global post rock
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 25 August 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link
fearless is a really great book. though I still think there is a complete division between the US stuff and the UK originated stuff to the point where I don't really think they are they same gentre; but I'm happy to read about all of these bands together I guess.
― akm, Friday, August 25, 2017 9:41 AM (thirty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i sort of agree with this, other than the fact that mogwai - the biggest uk post-rock group? - are hugely influenced by slint (later stuff not so much)
― -_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 August 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link
actually i was thinking that this would make a pretty good audio companion to the book and i guess the mix of uk and us wasn't especially jarring to me at the time:
https://image.ibb.co/iTVRrk/moon_men.jpg
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Monsters-Robots-Bug-Men-A-Users-Guide-To-The-Rock-Hinterland/release/178563
― plp will eat itself (NickB), Friday, 25 August 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link
I thought there wasa lot of interplay between bands across the Atlantic anyway. Not sure if results would be immediately recognisable but know taht a band like Bark Psychosis was heavily indebted to the Swans dynamics and both Graham Sutton and John ling hitched following Dinosaur Jr around in '89.
I know taht NYC nouise thing as well as bands like the Butthole Surfers were very popular among bands that went onto be significant in Post-Rock. Also Slint of course.Trying to think what fed back across the opposite direction.
Not got very far into the book, just reading about MBV being a jangle pop band which wasn't the way I remembered seeing them when i did before they became ghuge. I was thinking more noisey garagey stuff verging on psychobilly back in 1986. So was janglepop a transitive stage or was it a longer term thing somehwere between there and '88. Just trying to think when I followed teh first Silverfish tour which was as support for them and by which time i was thinking much more Sonic Youth.I keep coming across things in the book that I disagree with and clunky sentences. So I think she's not going to be one of my prefered writers. I found Seasons They Change far too listy too.
― Stevolende, Friday, 25 August 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link
Has Leech effectively excised all the bands who had ties in with the garage/psychobilly scene's pasts? I haven't seen any reference to the Wolfhounds or the early pre Debbie Googe days of MBV. Would have tghought it might be something taht she might at least refer to possibly as the primitive rock they were supposed to be post i.e. as a major contrast.
Did I hear that MBV actually first formed as ex-pat Irish in Berlin and already had some influence from Einsturzende Neubauten etc from formation or was that a revisionist history at the time.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 26 August 2017 11:14 (six years ago) link
Here to muddy the water further re: "what is post-rock?" how about post-rock 1979-1989:
'Post-Rock 1979-1989': https://t.co/XCJUpvI8J9Post-rock as a continuum of exploration... w/ Gigi Masin, Laughing Hands, Massacre, Michael Brook, @_thisheat_ Hraold Budd, Material, Spacemen 3, Dif Juz, Dome, The Cure, MBV, Glenn Branca, @DuruttiColumn Colin Newman, Talk Talk pic.twitter.com/zT2nMSNzHE— Musicophilia (@musicophiliamix) January 19, 2021
― Soundslike, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:24 (three years ago) link
it's when you play the guitar and post to ILX at the same time
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:25 (three years ago) link
Soundslike, this mix is wonderful! Thank you.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 21 January 2021 04:25 (three years ago) link
Thank you, glad you're enjoying it!
― Soundslike, Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:40 (three years ago) link
I'd missed this until now: Bundy K Brown's band Directions (In Music, sometimes) released a single in 1997 that seems to have vanished out of sight. It was re-released last year and a couple of the remixes are wonderful. This could be on Underworld's Drift series or the Alabaster DePlume record we all lost our minds over during the first lockdown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUCO5J5E0QA
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 7 March 2022 12:19 (two years ago) link