This period may also mark the only time when they were eclipsed by Aerosmith, at least in America ?
― calstars, Saturday, 23 September 2017 01:37 (six years ago) link
TS: Aerosmith "Combination" vs Stones "Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo"
― calstars, Saturday, 23 September 2017 01:40 (six years ago) link
aerosmith's first album didn't come out til 73 so yeah maybe a torch was passed, i don't know, wasn't there
― brimstead, Saturday, 23 September 2017 01:44 (six years ago) link
"Doo Doo Doo..." has Charlie going 3/4 tempo during the verses and Mick's(?) rhythm gtr makes it almost funky? Also can imagine Keith in the control room making sure the wah is up in the mix
― calstars, Saturday, 23 September 2017 01:48 (six years ago) link
yeah this is the era when Mick started playing a lot of electric rhythm ("Fingerprint File," "Winter," "Crazy Mama").
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 September 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link
I meant Taylor
― calstars, Saturday, 23 September 2017 01:59 (six years ago) link
him too!
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 September 2017 02:03 (six years ago) link
I had It's Only Rock and Roll as a kid on an 8 track, so that is about the Stones record I have hard the most. Really any mid-70s Stones is still good, just not to the level of where they had been. I think the slow and ballad tunes, which are not bad, kinda drag these records (and side 2 of Tattoo You). I'd figure they were living so hard and fast, when they got in a room to play, they were probably just so wound/strung out, that easy going acoustic slow things felt better when writing them.
I don't know to me any SLOW tune that doesn't have some unique or crazy musical break/bridge that goes on for 5-6 minutes would be better dropping a verse and chorus. I'd say that is the issue to me on some of these tunes.
― earlnash, Saturday, 23 September 2017 02:46 (six years ago) link
'Time Waits For No One' is the best song on any of these records... love the "ticking" drums, the subtle use of synth and Taylor's sublime guitar playing. It's also got that grimy, fucked-up vibe to it that one would expect from mid '70s Stones.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 23 September 2017 08:33 (six years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Friday, 29 September 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link
I really need to hear these albums someday.
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 29 September 2017 00:25 (six years ago) link
yeah no rush
― calstars, Friday, 29 September 2017 00:53 (six years ago) link
Snrub, listen to Goats Heads Soup first
― brimstead, Friday, 29 September 2017 01:37 (six years ago) link
i'm hearing "hand of fate" right now.. it's a great riff and mick sounds fabulous but the production sounds really off to me. too light and airy or something, not violent enough.
― brimstead, Friday, 29 September 2017 01:42 (six years ago) link
mandel's minimal harmonic laden solo is pretty sweet
― brimstead, Friday, 29 September 2017 01:43 (six years ago) link
― calstars, Thursday, September 28, 2017
description of Stones recording these songs
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 September 2017 02:07 (six years ago) link
These albums do all kinda suck.....I really like the way Charlie Watts gets them from verse to chorus on "Heartbreaker," and the completely generic unfelt social consciousness of the lyric charms me, so GHS gets my vote
― Swag Heathen (theStalePrince), Friday, 29 September 2017 02:48 (six years ago) link
Yeah, Charlie is all over the map on that one. It's almost like some free jazz shit. Also wonder if '78 Mick walking Central Park singing after dark could have been the same boy the police chased back in '74
― calstars, Friday, 29 September 2017 03:19 (six years ago) link
Also no one has mentioned the causal enjoyment of "luxury!" make a million for the texan. 20 dollar me. My woman need a new dress. My daughter got to go to school.
― calstars, Friday, 29 September 2017 03:26 (six years ago) link
TS: luxury vs Haitian divorce
― calstars, Friday, 29 September 2017 03:28 (six years ago) link
'Luxury' is utterly terrible.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 29 September 2017 06:13 (six years ago) link
Goats Head Soup doesn't suck either.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 29 September 2017 06:15 (six years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Saturday, 30 September 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link
What the fuck? You guys don't like Mick Taylor or something?
― calstars, Saturday, 30 September 2017 00:02 (six years ago) link
Sorry, I hallucinated that BAB won
― calstars, Saturday, 30 September 2017 00:03 (six years ago) link
― calstars, Friday, September 29, 2017
I do! A lot! But his last two albums suck.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 September 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link
Good to see that the correct choice topped the poll!
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 30 September 2017 10:50 (six years ago) link
oh thank god.
― campreverb, Saturday, 30 September 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link
Goats Head Soup is a fantastic album. There are some hints at a slide toward banality -- some of the forced vulgarity and detachment of "Doo Doo Doo Doo" and "Star Star," which to me for some reason prefigure one of their lowest moments, "Too Much Blood" -- but still. Winter. Angie.
― Treeship, Saturday, 30 September 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51KTfqMf2DL._SY355_.jpg
nah, this picture alone is better than anything on Goats Head Soup
― droit au butt (Euler), Saturday, 30 September 2017 16:15 (six years ago) link
No it isn't and stop lying.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 30 September 2017 17:13 (six years ago) link
xpost:
'Heartbreaker' and 'Star Star' are two of the best things on the album.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 30 September 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link
I really love the album art as well, although I know that I'm in the minority there.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 30 September 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link
You a stawfucka stawfucka stawfucka stawfucka staw
― calstars, Saturday, 30 September 2017 17:20 (six years ago) link
I thought "Star Star" (and "Short and Curlies," for that matter) were puerile when I was 15.
― the general theme of STUFF (cryptosicko), Saturday, 30 September 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
I think that these three albums are distinguished by solid performances but a lack of actual songs. The Stones weren't yet at the don't-give-a-shit point of their career--they were still a band coming off of Sticky Fingers and Exile on Main St.--but they were clearly exhausted with the process of songwriting, and needed to produce content in order to keep the brand going (and having a reason to tour). So, at best, we get half-baked things like "It's Only Rock 'n' Roll" (the song), which actually has a provocative lyrical conceit, and is tightly performed, but which they were obviously in such a hurry to complete that they just slapped the most generically anthemic chorus possible on and called it a song.
― the general theme of STUFF (cryptosicko), Saturday, 30 September 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link
haha i love the chorus of that song but tbh 90% of that is probably the tape-bleeding delivery on the opening IIII KNOW!!!
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 30 September 2017 17:41 (six years ago) link
I think that these three albums are distinguished by solid performances but a lack of actual songs.
This applies to about half of Black and Blue and It's Only Rock'n'Roll, but there's plenty of "actual songs" on all of these albums.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 30 September 2017 17:44 (six years ago) link
Before Goats Head Soup's release, Mick Jagger advertised it as a RETURN to "songs" following the freewheeling Exile.
― Treeship, Saturday, 30 September 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link
Goats Head Soup, which is also actually one of their best albums of the '70s, even if it is a minor step down from the preceding two.
If so then I've been right in my decision to not bother listening to any 70s Stones albums released after it.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 September 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link
The thing about Exile on Main St. is while it definitely has some stunning all-time moments, about a quarter of the LP isn't all that great.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 30 September 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link
Some Girls is worth a listen.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link
1/4 of 2 sides is still 1 1/2 albums of juice
― calstars, Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link
I can't think of a song on EOMS that wouldn't have improved GHS, though admittedly they would probably have sounded shit if actually recorded at the GHS sessions.
― The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link
Aerosmith snagged the vocal delivery of "Casino" and threw it on "uncle salty"
― calstars, Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link
I can think of several. Like, 'Hide Your Love' and 'Silver Train' are, to me, the two "lesser" tracks on Goats Head Soup, and stuff like 'Casino Boogie', 'Shake Your Hips', 'I Just Wanna See His Face', 'Sweet Black Angel', 'Turd On The Run' are of the same quality.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link
Goats Head Soup doesn't sound shit either, if anything it's far more produced than Exile On Main St. and there's a thickness to the sound that Exile doesn't have.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link
Exile is perfect
― brimstead, Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link
Goats and Only sound like shit. Too much...mid range? But on Black they get some of that treble back, and then Some, which has the crispiest snare ever
― calstars, Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link
I disagree. It's a great snapshot of where the Stones were at at the time, but it definitely has its flaws.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 30 September 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link
Excellent postAll that's missing is a download link
― calstars, Thursday, 5 October 2017 01:29 (six years ago) link
They pulled out "Dancing With Mr. D" for the obscure tracks/potty break section on early dates on the current tour.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 October 2017 01:46 (six years ago) link
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51tT%2B9-yo9L._SY355_.jpg
i found a fair copy of The Rolling Stones "Made in the Shade" the other day for $5. it's a really great compilation of early-to-mid-70s stuff:
Side A"Brown Sugar" 3:48"Tumbling Dice" 3:45"Happy" 3:04"Dance Little Sister" 4:11"Wild Horses" 5:42
Side B"Angie" 4:33"Bitch" 3:38"It's Only Rock'n Roll (But I Like It)" 5:07"Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)" 3:26"Rip This Joint" 2:22
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 5 October 2017 01:54 (six years ago) link
i think "Goats Head Soup" would be my choice from this poll, love "Angie" and "Heartbreaker" (and "Dancing With Mr. D").
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 5 October 2017 01:55 (six years ago) link
do we have a Stones bootleg thread?
― calstars, Thursday, 5 October 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link
whitehallunity delivers the goods! i wanna dig out that exile bonus disc now..
― brimstead, Thursday, 5 October 2017 02:12 (six years ago) link
Okay, so while this period of the Stones might not be everyone's favourite, but the very best of the material from this time still makes me think "fuck, I love the Stones" ... which is something I can't say of, for example, the Undercover era or Bridges to Babylon ...
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 5 October 2017 06:09 (six years ago) link
Excellent postAll that's missing is a download link― calstars, Thursday, October 5, 2017 2:29 AM (yesterday)
― calstars, Thursday, October 5, 2017 2:29 AM (yesterday)
whitehallunity delivers the goods! i wanna dig out that exile bonus disc now..― brimstead, Thursday, October 5, 2017 3:12 AM (yesterday)
― brimstead, Thursday, October 5, 2017 3:12 AM (yesterday)
haha, I was sorta half-worried my post would've been a little too much for the thread, glad to see it was well received. Here's a link:
https://mega.nz/#!d6AEWZwZ!0mxVGYO7gWkp__i9NrqIfYUS43G-XWA0e5nkx4VXuwQ
Also, if you haven't seen it, here's a rough sketch of the originally proposed cover by Hipgnosis:
http://blog.casafina.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/u.png
which was later re-used for this:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41rX7-oPfFL._SY300_.jpg
― whitehallunity, Friday, 6 October 2017 22:45 (six years ago) link
lol had no idea that was the backstory to the Ride a Rock Horse cover
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 October 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link
HahahaThank you and cheers
― calstars, Friday, 6 October 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link
jagger crapping on mick taylor
― new noise, Friday, 6 October 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link
The Daltrey cover was designed by Graham Hughes, Roger's cousin. Dunno if he worked for/with Hipgnosis. Hughes also designed/photographed the Quadrophenia and Odds and Sods covers.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 7 October 2017 00:07 (six years ago) link
def feel a certain way about that Keef horse
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 October 2017 04:55 (six years ago) link
Let's do this!
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 April 2019 03:53 (five years ago) link
Must dig out Goats Head Soup later for a listen. One of their finest LP's.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 20 April 2019 11:41 (five years ago) link
Memory f’in Motel
― calstars, Saturday, 20 April 2019 11:47 (five years ago) link
https://carnaby.therollingstonesshop.com/products/pop-art-black-and-blue-t-shirt/?
They took Bill off the cover of Black & Blue for this tee.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 00:07 (two years ago) link
The ad it's based on:
https://blogintomystery.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/stones.jpg?w=640
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 00:10 (two years ago) link
I remember the kerfuffle around the ad for Black and Blue that featured a bound young woman who was . . . well, black and blue.
I really dig "Hand of Fate." Some nice, if basic, back and forth by Ron and Keith in that one.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 00:15 (two years ago) link
Pretty sure they all hated Bill.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 00:31 (two years ago) link
Making MIck a blond is equally rude
― Josefa, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 00:32 (two years ago) link