the music of the internet generation

xp Flopson

Chillwave dude's my age, and if he followed the same generic trajectory, he graduated college during an economic boom time. When I graduated everyone was hiring like crazy, and I was able to get massive employment experience kids younger than me couldn't. And I'm still living off that.

I don't include people younger than that in "chillwave" because they're not in the same age group.

Reading further, maybe these people are just lazy morons, then.

also there's more music influenced by Wire now than there was seven years ago... jussss sayin' (on an indie rock bandcamp page sense)

lol this thread is reminding me of one of my favorite students who loves death grips and v a p o r w a v e

thank god the kids wear headphones all the time

as someone of that generation it's been very weird seeing vaporwave go from being a mostly-joke niche thing that only places like /mu/ (ugh) seemed to care about, to something much more widely known?

the strangest is probably hearing some very non-internet/music nerd acquaintances excitedly talk about seeing yung lean live

as someone adjacent to that generation it is very weird and offputting (although I'm used to it by now) to have "the internet generation" equated with "a small subset of redditors"

that's fair, but I did concede upthread that this concerns music nerds rather than the generation as a whole

maybe it's just about RYM lol

although as ufo says, it probably does stretch a little beyond the nerd inner circle at this point

Ugh the love for Frank Ocean makes me feel old. I’ve seen more young people praising Run the Jewels and the Kanye West “vibes” over Death Grips tho.

Fwiw, I teach music technology and contemporary music at a progressive liberal arts college and have never heard a student talk about anything from this thread except Frank Ocean and Kanye West

who else do you hear them talk about instead?

i remember when i was young and people used to talk about "my generation". apparently i was a "slacker" and i wore flannel and i listened to pearl jam. now that i am no longer young people have stopped talking about "my generation", which is a significant relief.

ilxors be agin'

there wasn't so much of a 'u triggered bro?' vibe to it before though, it feels nihilistic but still completely libidinous.

yeah horrorcore rappers definitely weren't trolling for a reaction

would be nice to have young people on ilx to provide insights on this

wonder if ilm at some point becomes an alternative Steve Hoffman forum

"becomes"

Dude if you're going to handwring about the kids then you might want to do so on the basis of more than just Odd Future + a load of shit that hardly anyone listens to.

"the frank ocean love makes me feel old" why?

also I can't think of a single frank ocean song since nostalgia. ultra that was built on meme

who else do you hear them talk about instead?

Varies between classes but it mostly seems unsurprising to me: if we exclude jazz and classical, mostly a mix of Top 40 (Chainsmokers and Daft Punk were among the most popular presentation topics last year; Adele, Lana del Rey), mainstream EDM (Major Lazer, Tiesto), classic rock/jam bands (a lot of Zappa love in addition to more obvious stuff like Zep/Floyd + contemporary stuff like Trevor Hall), 90s alternative rock (Hole, NIN, Beck, Radiohead, one guy really into old grunge), some Pitchfork-ish indie (Mitski, Tame Impala, Mt Eerie, Bon Iver), trap (Future), and alternative hip-hop (Kid Cudi, MF Doom).

"the frank ocean love makes me feel old" why?

― hackshaw, sábado 30 de septiembre de 2017

Because I don’t get it at all and the people I know in their mid 20s and below all seem to be on board.

Yeah, but I think that that's labeling. It's like: that kind of music — like, what does that mean? I love music; I love all styles of music. I love Mike WiLL's music; I love Wayne Coyne's music. I love country music; I love Dolly (Parton)'s music. I love Leonard Cohen's music. I may be the only person that has Wiz Khalifa and Leonard Cohen on the same iPod. I don't ever label music.

http://www.npr.org/2017/09/24/552924293/-i-m-not-afraid-of-who-i-used-to-be-miley-cyrus-on-younger-now

interview is full of gems like this

Your art makes people uncomfortable sometimes!

That's what punk is all about. If you don't piss somebody off, then that's not punk rock, I guess. But I wish people wouldn't be pissed off.

dam miley u special snowflake.

I may be the only person that has Wiz Khalifa and Leonard Cohen on the same iPod.

http://replygif.net/i/1216.gif

a leonard cohen and wiz collab seems like the most conflicting thing ever

Wiz Kohen's "Famous Black and Yellow Raincoat"

/dadjk

*smoking weed* damn, that raincoat... hurts me.

who is the internet generation? ... it sounds like a useless term, like the electricity generation, the cotton gin generation, the hitler generation ...

sarahell oTM

Actually, I'm thinking the person I know who seems to be most on board with this groove is my decidedly not-young former PhD supervisor, whom I knew as a composer of hardcore serialist orchestral and chamber music but who, in his retirement, seems to have bafflingly dedicated himself to doing things like chopped and screwed remixes of Petula Clark or Nicks/Henley songs with Soundcloud tags like #vapor.

People are less tribal about their music genres than before, yes. Beyond that what I'm not getting is the difference between this conversation and all the "can't understand this young people's music" conversations that middle-aged people have had since forever.

The only thing that seriously unnerves me about Brockhampton is that they seem to be named after the village next to the one I grew up in.

Yeah, it makes me think of cricket on the village green, parish councils, Tory majorities in the 10,000s.

This Brockhampton - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brockhampton,_Herefordshire

just heard a bladee song

fucking soul-destroyingly terrible, obv

and i do not mind sounding like a raving elitist when i say that the problem is just a complete lack of musicality. compare and contrast the pc music gang, who all know music theory and production to a v great extent

see also black dresses etc. artists who mine a similarly deathly ultramodern vibe but know their shit. bladee is just an embarrassment

see also 100 gecs

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/8e3b222f0c916d0baf4e27bb354a9f844d2c74c5/0_113_3500_2100/master/3500.jpg?width=1200&height=1200&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&s=9dd0f44ec11a3cfa5e1a5dab77c73d04

Actually Bladee is good

When Bladee said "When I'm in New York I go to Jersey" I felt that