grime in 2004

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i'm weirdly fond of bruza lately. propa essex wideboy

candour floss (mwah), Monday, 20 September 2004 12:03 (nineteen years ago) link

i was suprised to see at the sidewinder awards he was black. for some reason i figured the 'cheeky cockney' was white. not that it makes any difference but it was just a surprise.

martin (martin), Monday, 20 September 2004 12:10 (nineteen years ago) link

really feeling Footsie & D Double E - "Prang Man"
team of the year!

Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 20 September 2004 13:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Footsie, D Double, Trim and Scratchy on a Karnage set: Sidewinder was fun...

martin (martin), Monday, 20 September 2004 13:25 (nineteen years ago) link

so lethal b forward riddim got signed to relentless! chart action ahoy, i'm a bit surprised

candour floss (mwah), Monday, 20 September 2004 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

The pained growl (as in "Pull Up That" and other tracks I've been hearing) is the UK equivalent of Lil' Jon's "yeah!" interjections.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 20 September 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link

banned in Essex! too hype!
http://www.rwdmag.com/music_articles/news/16262/forward_riddim_banned/

Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 20 September 2004 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha! I was just about to post that.

"Essex"

adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 20 September 2004 18:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Kano's major label debut.

JoB (JoB), Monday, 20 September 2004 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Warner, weird.

adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 20 September 2004 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link

679 Recordings, see also: The Streets.

JoB (JoB), Monday, 20 September 2004 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Cool, "Ps & Qs" is a great track. He still definitely has to release "Boys Luv Girls" though!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 20 September 2004 22:27 (nineteen years ago) link

it will get a re-release in some format, i'm fairly confident...

martin (martin), Monday, 20 September 2004 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link

So did anyone else put their money where their blog is and make it to the Sidewinder awards in Hackney...?
-- martin (martin_clark...), September 19th, 2004.

i heard there was about 8 people there.

rhythm divison has sold out of lord of the mics. is heat in the street 2 worth it?

luka, Tuesday, 21 September 2004 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm waiting for Heat In The Street 2 and the Crazy Titch tape to get sent over here via my parents' house.

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 12:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Sidewinder was about 3/4 full by 2am. loads of tickets got lost in the post aparantly.

martin (martin), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link

anyone else feeling TremorefireDubz - "My Boo" ?
with this and Babycakes it's practically a full on fluffy 2-step revival
break out those handbags:
"if your game is on give me a call Boo"

Paul (scifisoul), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I've been looking for that for a couple weeks - although the original is sort of proto-2-step anyway (Along with Bone Thugs "It's All Good").

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 21 September 2004 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Gemma Fox - "Paris Hilton Riddim" anyone?

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 26 September 2004 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Who heard D Double/Triple Threat - "Hard like Nipple"?

And why aren't more people talking about Lord of the Mic??? It's REALLY good!

adam. (nordicskilla), Sunday, 26 September 2004 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Gemma Fox - "Gone (Delinquent mix)" is *classic* 2-step revival!!!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 27 September 2004 00:02 (nineteen years ago) link

omg omg the riff on "The Rush" is the Deftones' "My Own Summer (Shove It)" which is like my favourite metal song ever omg omg

toby (tsg20), Monday, 27 September 2004 10:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha! I love that Deftones song but I am still not feeling The Rush!

adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 27 September 2004 11:14 (nineteen years ago) link

the rush is ok, i think, but nothing special. unlike the deftones.

toby (tsg20), Monday, 27 September 2004 11:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Do you think if I kill someone and blame it on Forward Riddim that I won't go to jail because it's totally validated?

SHOOT IT, TOMMY GUN, SHOOT IT, MACK-11, SHOOT IT

Has anyone been in a Forward Riddim riot yet? This whole banning thing reminds me of "Never Scared" before it blew up on the tele.

Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Monday, 27 September 2004 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

And why aren't more people talking about Lord of the Mic??? It's REALLY good!

I dled this a while ago and agree, but i have nothing to say about it cause i'm not enough of a grime nerd (sadly).

artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 27 September 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Say how much you like DESTRUCTION w/WIley, Kano, D Double and Doogz!

adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 27 September 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Is that "Destruction" as in Jammer's "Destruction" or a new tune?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link

No, the Jammer beat, with all of those MCs spitting straight FIRE over the top of it.

adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:54 (nineteen years ago) link

the 'shoot it' verse isn't in the video incidently. i'm going to get lord of the mics but it's not in stock yet. i've seen bits and pieces and it looks very entertaining. anyone want to give us a rundown of the highlights
eg-discarder gets merked and gets all huffy and aggressive about it, stealing his rivals baseball cap and hurling off the towerblock balcony.

.., Tuesday, 28 September 2004 08:51 (nineteen years ago) link

highlights of lord of the mic:


- the lethal b wiley diss over 'cant get you out of my head' maybe this is old but ive not heard it before.

- the lady fury track

- ESSENTIALS duh

er cant really remember
i sat down and listened to it all then wrote things down about each track. but then when i was writing it on the computer blogger fucked it and i couldnt be fucked. i'll have anopther listen tonight

but why was no one excited when i talked about it a couple of months ago?! seemed like everyone was hating on it then!

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 13:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked it, ambrose!

I got some good stuff in the post today, Heat In The Street 2, and the Crazy T/Vader/Mr Wong mixtape, which is straight garage and fucking brilliant on first listen!

Oh, and also Uptown threw in a Paperchase thing called Street Anthems which looks really good, nice roundup of all the good Essentials/Davinche/Terra Danjah stuuf, inc. So Contagious and Gone.

The Bitter Tears Of Little Lord Travolta (nordicskilla), Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry if this is old news to everyone, please just flatter this dilettante expat, ok? ta.

The Bitter Tears Of Little Lord Travolta (nordicskilla), Saturday, 2 October 2004 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link

someone hit me up, please!

cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 2 October 2004 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link

It's not like I owe you something.

The Bitter Tears Of Little Lord Travolta (nordicskilla), Saturday, 2 October 2004 20:47 (nineteen years ago) link

love isn't just something.

cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 2 October 2004 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, I have listened to the Crazy Titch tape three times in a row. I don't think I've done that with anything else this year, except for maybe Wiley and Morgan Geist. Does that make it good?

I think that it easily matches the N.A.S.T.Y. mix, although I guesses it kind of lacks the shock of the new that N.A.S.T.Y. had for me when I first heard it. But still...

xpost haha, it isn't?

The Bitter Tears Of Little Lord Travolta (nordicskilla), Saturday, 2 October 2004 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link

are you sharing it?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 2 October 2004 20:52 (nineteen years ago) link

top of my shared folder, now ALL in mp3! heh...

The Bitter Tears Of Little Lord Travolta (nordicskilla), Saturday, 2 October 2004 21:18 (nineteen years ago) link

a friend of mine thinks grime beats are like post-garage production. im not sure how possible that is since garage is still going.

splooge (thesplooge), Sunday, 3 October 2004 12:04 (nineteen years ago) link

can someone explain the fuss about davinche and paperchase? is it perhaps that they r heroically mediocre?

the dizzee/doogz tune is boring. i have thought this of much grime i have heard since 'stand up tall' was released, including the rest of dizz's lp, i am coming to admit. except ruff sqwad's 'anna' and 'move to this'; do you all agree with the widow twanky blogs that have bemoaned the ruff sound qwality and mired lyrics? these songs are intensely perfectly great and i shouldnt be the first one to say so.

candour floss (mwah), Sunday, 3 October 2004 13:08 (nineteen years ago) link

"Anna" is brilliant, but I've only heard an instrumental version. The rhythm programming alone is stunning though. Don't all the blogs love Ruff Sqwad though?

I disagree re Davinche though, I reckon he's a really good producer (do you still hate Terra Danjah candour?)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 3 October 2004 13:14 (nineteen years ago) link

(oh i didnt mean solo t stryder's 'move', i forgot about that, it was thinking of a different one)

candour floss (mwah), Sunday, 3 October 2004 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link

woebot and shoelaces complained about anna's mastering. i smashed my head with my keyboard.

davinche has nice chops, and a tidy sensibility. but i find it of little consequence. if he was a uk hiphop producer i'd give him a pat on the back.

i already said i liked the grimette td stuff! has he had any new riddimic ones? because it was cock back and the sort that i wasn't so into. terra will let you all down very soon though

candour floss (mwah), Sunday, 3 October 2004 13:27 (nineteen years ago) link

(man some of the newer dubs i heard on woebot's ruff sqwad stream, ones beginning to use anguish vocal samples, even i would darkly say: blimey it's the continuum)

candour floss (mwah), Sunday, 3 October 2004 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah I thought you'd already changed your mind on td I just couldn't remember for sure.

My version of "Anna" sounds fine, though 'cos it's all grainy mp3s for me I'd hardly know the difference anyway. Whenever I hear Ruff Sqwad tracks as instrumentals I find it difficult to imagine rapping on them cos they're so dense and multilayered ("Anna" is like a six part round!), but then later on I do hear vocals on the tracks and it makes perfect sense.

"davinche has nice chops, and a tidy sensibility. but i find it of little consequence. if he was a uk hiphop producer i'd give him a pat on the back."

I sort of get where you're coming from here in that he's very much a producer producer rather than a sonic artiste, but I don't know if that's such a bad thing. Stuff like "Ps & Qs" or Wiley's "Baby" or "Leave Me Alone" or "Grimey" work really well as foundations for great rap/pop tracks. He's like the K Warren of grime maybe. Or... no... No I'm struggling to think of a 2-step parallel right now that really fits. But yeah I'm love "Ps & Qs" at the moment, it's like generic grime that makes generic grime seem like a brilliant thing, like those second tier Neptunes tracks that are actually secretly first tier (lotsa Clipse stuff obv).

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 3 October 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I loved his "What I Found In You" with Kele Le Roc as well although I haven't heard it in an age.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 3 October 2004 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link

kano's recorded a self-produced tune with live rock guitar on his new album. i'm not *quite* sure about it myself, but the other stuff i heard in the studio sounded ace: sumptuous flutter-pop grime that rides on confidence where dizzee rides on paranoia. apparently "what have you done" won't be on the album, but "boys luv girls" will.

Chris Houghton (chrish), Sunday, 3 October 2004 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link

OK here's some news I've wanted to add to this thread for months.

The first major label-backed grime compilation, called "Run The Road" has just been completed. It's a snapshot of this scene in 2004, taking in past classics and future hits.

It's coming out on 679 Recordings (home to Kano and The Streets) on November 15th and was A&Red by 679 and myself.

Here's the tracklisting:

1. Terror Danjah feat. Hyper, Bruza, D Double E and Hyper 'c*ck Back V1.2'
2. Riko and Target 'Chosen One'
3. Roll Deep 'Let It Out'
4. Kano 'Ps and Qs'
5. Jammer feat. Wiley, D Double E, Kano and Goodz 'Destruction VIP'
6. Dizzee Rascal ft D Double E 'Give U More'
7. No Lay 'Unorthadox Daughter'
8. Shystie feat. Ronnie Redz, Kano and Bruza 'One Wish' Terror Danjah Remix
9. Goodz 'Gimmie Dat'
10. Demon feat. Bruza and Big-E-D 'Da Rush'
11. Tinchy Stryder 'Move'
12. Lady Sovereign 'Cha Ching (Cheque 1, 2 Remix)'
13. Ears 'Happy Dayz'
14. The Streets feat. Kano, Donae'o, Lady Sovereign and Tinchy Stryder 'Fit But You Know It'
15. Wonder feat. Plan B 'Cap Back'
16. Kano feat. Demon and Wiley 'Mic Fight'

martin (martin), Monday, 4 October 2004 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Congrats Martin, from the 2/3rds of that I know it looks like an excellent selection.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 4 October 2004 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link


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