Oceania was the last gasp, IMO.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 19 October 2017 06:50 (six years ago) link
Pale Horse on piano was great
― flappy bird, Thursday, 19 October 2017 06:54 (six years ago) link
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, October 18, 2017 11:50 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that last gasp sure was recent
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 October 2017 07:05 (six years ago) link
I fucking love this new album by William Patrick Corgan :-/
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 19 October 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link
it's great :\
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 October 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link
that last gasp sure was recent― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, October 19, 2017 7:05 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, October 19, 2017 7:05 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Indeed, but it came after a near-decade of not particularly great music, and was followed by a half-decade of not particularly great music. Including this. So that's... what? One excellent album in nearly 15 years? Yeah. Cool.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 19 October 2017 16:47 (six years ago) link
this record is much better than oceania but ok dude
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 19 October 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link
yeah no contest this is by far the best thing he's done in many, many years. this is a record i'll be listening to more than a week after release.
also, seeing him play a lot of "lesser" later songs last night on piano/acoustic guitar showed that his ability to write great songs & melodies hasn't diminished as much as he's lost his ear for production & going too far in the studio. he made me like Drum + Fife last night on the piano. Pale Horse was another highlight. thank god for rick rubin
― flappy bird, Thursday, 19 October 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link
'Pale Horse' is always a highlight.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 19 October 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
WPC's voice has so much weird vibrato that it sounds insane when he harmonizes the longer notes in Amarinthe
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 19 October 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link
Turrican -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeKGVw4-CN0
― flappy bird, Thursday, 26 October 2017 01:30 (six years ago) link
I'm suddenly wanting to listen to Oceania again ... 'Panopticon' fucking rules.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Thursday, 26 October 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link
lol this video rules
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36_4dx_0Qdk
― flappy bird, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link
the second set in LA last night was pretty nuts. he's doing four nights at Hollywood Forever Cemetery, first two nights were the same as the rest of the tour, last night after Ogilala he played:
Jesus is the SunCrushSnailPurr SnicketyMayonaiseRocketPorcelina of the Vast OceansIn the Arms of SleepGalapagosShameTearPerfectWoundWith Every LightGlass and the Ghost Children---The End of the World [Skeeter Davis]Let Me Give the World To You
― flappy bird, Monday, 13 November 2017 01:22 (six years ago) link
wow that’s a fucking setlist
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 13 November 2017 02:12 (six years ago) link
damn
― crüt, Monday, 13 November 2017 02:14 (six years ago) link
Purr Snickety!
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 13 November 2017 08:58 (six years ago) link
night 4:
I FallSpace Oddity [David Bowie]RiverviewOnce in a WhileLyricEyeTonight, TonightPinwheelsSootheTo SheilaBox of Rain [Grateful Dead]Friends as Lovers, Lovers as FriendsSpaceboyLandslide [Fleetwood Mac]Burnt Orange-Black---Stand Inside Your LoveMuzzle
― flappy bird, Monday, 13 November 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link
Please tell me you are a witness at all these nights, Flapp
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 13 November 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link
I wish, I'm on the opposite coast. I was really happy with the show I saw in Delaware, I posted the setlist from the second set of that show upthread. Pretty remarkable that he played Soothe and Once in a While, the latter of which hasn't been played since that infamous Cat's Cradle show in early 2000 when Jimmy was out with a "jellyfish sting" and Billy & James played by themselves.
― flappy bird, Monday, 13 November 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
yo flappy i hate to say these words all in one post but: have you listened to billy's recent interview with joe rogan, it's pretty fantastic
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 13 November 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link
yeah it was great! i watched it on friday without reading any of the comments anywhere beforehand because i knew it could go in a lot of different directions. it went as well as it could've gone imo. Billy very humble & interesting & making an effort to get on an even keel with Joe, who clearly had a peripheral knowledge of the Pumpkins at best. it was a good contrast to Billy's appearances on Howard (massive SP fan) where they usually talk mostly about childhood neglect, abuse, trauma. I enjoyed the conversation with Joe about fame, celebrity, and the 'behind the curtain' machinations of show business. fwiw I think Joe gets a bad rap, he's had some shit guests but he's a pretty open-minded and even-keeled and positive guy. I watch/listen to his podcast fairly regularly depending on the guest.
― flappy bird, Monday, 13 November 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link
problem seems to be that he is so open-minded that he can convince himself of anything
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link
sure, depending on the guest. he knows very little about a lot. he gets stoned and interviews comedians, rockstars, scientists, academics, his friends, pundits, crazy people. it's fun
― flappy bird, Monday, 13 November 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link
stoned guy asking scientist about extrapolations of quantum physics is a state every aged fraternity brother seems to occupy for at least a little while.
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link
hell yeah brother
― flappy bird, Monday, 13 November 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link
lol
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:50 (six years ago) link
Great interview!
― how's life, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 00:12 (six years ago) link
Billy Corgan - Hollywood Forever Cemetery - November 11, 2017
Set 1, running time 43:06
1. Zowie2. Processional3. The Spaniards4. Aeronaut5. The Long Goodbye6. Half-Life of an Autodidact7. Amarinthe8. Antietam9. Mandarynne10. Shiloh11. Archer12. If I Were a Carpenter [ Hardin ]
Set 2 and encore, running time 1:14:07
1. Jesus is the Sun2. Crush3. Snail4. Purr Snickety5. Mayonaise6. Rocket7. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans8. In The Arms of Sleep9. Galapogos10. Shame11. Tear12. Perfect13. Wound (abandoned)14. Wound15. With Every Light16. Glass and the Ghost Children17. [encore break]18. The End of the World [ Davis ]19. Let Me Give The World To You
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 19:44 (six years ago) link
I gotta be honest I've never understood the appeal of "glass and the ghost children", otherwise very cool
― Simon H., Tuesday, 14 November 2017 19:47 (six years ago) link
Just listened to the interview with Joe Rogan. Not sure if Rogan actually knows anything about SP, as he didn't name any song or album and they didn't talk about the music that much. I was cheered to hear that Billy is self-aware enough to acknowledge that many fans don't want to hear anything about his wrestling ventures -- count me in. Aside from Billy's requisite rant about "the left," he seemed like he was in a good mood. He confirmed he's on good terms with everyone and they're aiming for a full-band reunion next year. It warms the heart!
And funny stories about Rodman and the '90s Bulls.
― Sam Weller, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 12:18 (six years ago) link
Okay, so I've actually convinced myself to check out the new album and shit, 'Processional' is a really beautiful song that was totally worth hearing! In fact, I've got no problem with the songwriting or production on this album at all, really... if this record has any flaw, it's that the arrangements expose the flaws in Corgan's voice more than usual (I lost count of the amount of times the autotune kicked in) - I never really got that problem with Adore so much. Anyway, this is a much warmer record than Adore and one I'm glad he made.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Sunday, 26 November 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link
So yeah, make that 2 good albums in 17 years.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Sunday, 26 November 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link
i told you!!!
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 26 November 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link
hearing reports that the full title was (I Am The Last Person in the World to Find Out About) Hollywood Forever Cemetery
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 26 November 2017 22:04 (six years ago) link
lmao
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, 26 November 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link
:D
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 26 November 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link
Processional is beautiful, these lines & their melody hit me hard:
And stake your heart on mineto places, other timesIt's a long way, it's a long wayto get back home
― flappy bird, Sunday, 26 November 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link
i told you!!!― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:30 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:30 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yes, but you have a tendency to like everything and flappy is a massive superfan Corgan apologist, so it was pretty hard to gauge whether this albun was going to be any good based on the fact that the pair of you liked it, fwiw. I'm glad I could summon up enough enthusiasm to check it out myself.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 27 November 2017 03:31 (six years ago) link
*album
This will probably lead me to binge listen to the discography again.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 27 November 2017 03:32 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs9GSGR1XHA
― flappy bird, Monday, 27 November 2017 03:35 (six years ago) link
ok then enjoy music on your own shithead!
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 27 November 2017 05:46 (six years ago) link
Processional is beautiful, these lines & their melody hit me hard:And stake your heart on mineto places, other timesIt's a long way, it's a long wayto get back home― flappy bird, Sunday, November 26, 2017 10:56 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flappy bird, Sunday, November 26, 2017 10:56 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, I completely agree! After a couple more listens, it's a late-period Corgan classic for me now.
Of course, I'm mow on a Pumpkins B-sides kick, of all things...
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 27 November 2017 06:53 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiFMosotuPo
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 December 2017 00:32 (six years ago) link
only watched a few songs from that, p good so far
not optimistic about the odds of this ever coming out (at least as a double album:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BcqDsVZAk_E/
― flappy bird, Saturday, 16 December 2017 02:29 (six years ago) link
caption reads:
I just finished a few weeks recording in Nashville for the follow-up to Ogilala. So far (the new album) is more stark and tangled. Also looks like it will be a double (16 songs at least)
― flappy bird, Saturday, 16 December 2017 02:30 (six years ago) link
lol i really hope he puts it out
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 December 2017 02:31 (six years ago) link
me too. i will say i was p sure what became Ogilala was shelved before it was announced in August (he recorded it in the summer of 2016... Linda Strawberry posted a picture of him doing vocals and said the album was called The Land of Maybe). i still have reservations about this new one though mostly because he's working with Howard Willing and presumably self-producing again, so there goes the quality control of Rick Rubin. i don't think Ogilala sounds drastically better than any of the post-2000 records, but Billy needs to have someone listen to all of his demos and pick out the gems that he's been throwing away for years now. i don't know what happened to his quality control compass. if not for Rubin "Aeronaut" not only wouldn't have been on the album it probably never would've been recorded. anyway he's still got some good momentum atm and seems like he's in a good place, hope "Cardinal Rule" is on it.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 16 December 2017 02:42 (six years ago) link
this is approaching Chrysanthemum levels of post-SP songwriting for me lately
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AAtElcmYic
― flappy bird, Thursday, 1 November 2018 06:37 (five years ago) link