There, beat that low
― Karl Malone, Monday, 4 December 2017 15:42 (six years ago) link
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― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 4 December 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link
There's a short recording of "Help!" with Lennon fooling around on the piano (I think it's from 1970 or something).The problem is it's a total mess (chords, words, you name it !).
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 4 December 2017 15:43 (six years ago) link
https://www.popsike.com/pix/20131014/390679120555.jpg
― Mark G, Monday, 4 December 2017 15:44 (six years ago) link
One thing about Help! that's always got me thinking is that they included 'Act Naturally' as a replacement for 'If You've Got Trouble', but they had 'Wait' around at the time which would have been a better choice. While not one of their finest, it's a lot better than Harrison's songs on Help! and stuff like 'Tell Me What You See' ... I'm curious as to why they initially shelved it, and even more curious to know what led to it appearing on Rubber Soul - they didn't really ressurrect aborted stuff like that often.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link
The contrast on A Hard Day’s Night between John’s lewd, modulating melody and Paul’s keening bridge that keeps climbing and building tension is one of my favourite early Beatles moments.
For covers, this one’s great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1YKfu5sD24
― dinnerboat, Monday, 4 December 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link
Well, "I Need You" is a minor Beatles work but it might be my favourite Harrison song.That said I'm not a big fan of his stuff in the Beatles. All Things Must Pass is great though and is all I need to hear from him.
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 4 December 2017 15:54 (six years ago) link
Ah I remenber an alt. version of "A Hard Day's Night" (no idea where it came from) which was basically the same but a bit slower and with a fat bass and less "clean" vocals (actually, one of the things I prefer in their post 65 stuff is that the production on the vocals is less "clean", with more effects etc).it was great !
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 4 December 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link
Haven't we learned by now that there's no low Turrican can't manage to squirm under.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2017 16:06 (six years ago) link
I like "Wait" for the line ".. and I've been good, as good as I can be.." which means not very good at all.
― Mark G, Monday, 4 December 2017 16:12 (six years ago) link
i thought this revive wd be about the touring doc that just was on PBS
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 December 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link
Don't know what you're talking about - me and AlXTC from Paris are having a discussion about the early Beatles and others are attempting to derail the thread because they don't like an album being called by its actual title. Funnily enough, these people are doing the exact same thing they (wrongly) got all huffy about on other threads. ILM logic in action right there.
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― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 16:19 (six years ago) link
Grow up ffs.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Monday, 4 December 2017 16:20 (six years ago) link
I like "Wait" for the line ".. and I've been good, as good as I can be.." which means not very good at all.― Mark G, Monday, December 4, 2017 4:12 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Mark G, Monday, December 4, 2017 4:12 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I like the volume swells/"violining" effect on the guitar - I know this also appears on Harrison's 'I Need You', but it seems to work better on 'Wait' ...
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 16:22 (six years ago) link
this one deserves posting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5yMKIlwTd0
― Darin, Monday, 4 December 2017 20:46 (six years ago) link
jeff beck covered "she's a woman" on blow by blow
― brimstead, Monday, 4 December 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link
you've gotta put Jimi Hendrix's live cover of "sgt peppers" on there, rushomancy
― brimstead, Monday, 4 December 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link
"Act Naturally" is one of my favorite Beatle covers. Love the guitar on it, great backing vocals by PM, and it's just a really good song.
― timellison, Monday, 4 December 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link
I utterly despise every single thing about it. Loathe it.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 4 December 2017 22:51 (six years ago) link
Buck Owens rules.
― timellison, Monday, 4 December 2017 22:53 (six years ago) link
yup
― Οὖτις, Monday, 4 December 2017 22:58 (six years ago) link
what is turrican calling the beatles' drummer "ringo" for, his name is richard starkey. it actually says so on his birth certificate. you can call him ringo if you want, but you'd be wrong. it's the actual name vs. the mythology.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 00:08 (six years ago) link
all experience sensed and thus dated, which means nothing is dated.
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 00:11 (six years ago) link
I think the point about the word is that it's always used as a pejorative, but buying into that implies buying into the idea that sounds or styles are placed irrevocably in time. That music moves ahead in a linear manner.
For me, "Help" is so special now precisely because it does seem to have a lost art quality to it. And I think that is in what some here and elsewhere refer to as the contradiction between its energy and its theme. I don't believe there's any contradiction there. I've never interpreted "Help" as being "upbeat." How can you?
― timellison, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 00:44 (six years ago) link
Is "Like a Rolling Stone" "upbeat?"
― timellison, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 00:45 (six years ago) link
Kind of like the Nilsson track, this another one everyone should be familiar with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_smoNNCFbY
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 01:19 (six years ago) link
Please everybody if we haven't done what we could have done we've tried... this was the b-side...
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 01:23 (six years ago) link
... no it isn't, here it is!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-xxXN9qAQI
― brimstead
it's got spunk, but i'm not sure i rate it any higher than, say, tomorrow's version of "strawberry fields forever".
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 02:13 (six years ago) link
having said that i do like the "christmas on earth continued" version a lot more than the "stages" version i was familiar with, i'll tentatively slot that one in!
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 02:19 (six years ago) link
Tomorrow's "Strawberry Fields Forever" is outstanding.
― timellison, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 02:20 (six years ago) link
Hm, can’t remember hearing that one.
― Anne Git Yorgun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 02:42 (six years ago) link
That whole album is really good. Cool band.
― timellison, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 03:14 (six years ago) link
That album is great but the cover is the lamest thing on it!
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 04:57 (six years ago) link
Suggest other thread for bands not the beatles
― moyesery loves kompany (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 09:33 (six years ago) link
Caetano Veloso made some pretty good covers on his Joia and Qualquer Coisa albums, of Help, Elanor Rigby, For No One and Lady Madonna. As a bonus, if you haven't heard it, Joia is one of the greatest albums ever, period.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 11:36 (six years ago) link
Ah, it was in the RS 70 interview that Lennon talked about "Help!" :
"I don't like the recording too much; we did it too fast trying to be commercial... I might do I Want To Hold Your Hand and Help! again, because I like them and I can sing them."
― AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 12:01 (six years ago) link
LOL @ "trying to be commercial", you were in The Beatles for fucks sake!
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link
Charlotte Dada's "Don't Let Me Down" (1971, Ghana) is about as good as Beatles covers get:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7-JrLuAaFY
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 15:03 (six years ago) link
the eternal battle: charlotte dada's version of "don't let me down", or marcia griffiths' version? i'm on team griffiths, but they're both great.
since that link to the other thread from 2005 showed up i've been making serious progress on my list. the 2005 poster had some great shit going on - i filled up half my gaps on "with the beatles" with his suggestions - but there are resources out there now that there just weren't back in '05. there are covers of "glass onion" besides arif mardin's! shitty jazz covers are the bane of anybody looking for beatles interpretations. the secret weapon? power pop, obviously. absolutely killer live track of "old brown shoe" by the laughing dogs... _nobody_ does old brown shoe...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8CU2Oc7a3c&feature=youtu.be
i'm still arguing with myself over whether to use the bats' "tell me why". on the one hand it's great, but on the other hand it sounds a _lot_ like the "duck tales" theme...
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Thursday, 7 December 2017 02:43 (six years ago) link
crap, youtube link fail. whatever, you should be able to google it (and it's worth finding).
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Thursday, 7 December 2017 02:44 (six years ago) link
I'd suggest Colin Newman's version of 'Blue Jay Way', that's another song that nobody does and I believe that's why he did it.
― Mark G, Thursday, 7 December 2017 07:09 (six years ago) link
Colin Newman's early 80s solo work has a lot of tracks that have, now that you've made the connection for me, the relaxed dread and haze of Blue Jay Way.
― Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Thursday, 7 December 2017 13:20 (six years ago) link
Though, thankfully, they're much better.
― Action of Boyle Man Prompts Visitor to Stay (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 December 2017 14:02 (six years ago) link
i'm not a big fan of "not to" - even the wire tracks on it i prefer in the dodgy live versions from "turns and strokes", etc. i went with a youtube cover by a baroque musician named daniel mantey. it's not as good as his take on "trans europe express", but i find that hurdy gurdy really brings out the droney quality of the original song.
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Thursday, 7 December 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link
Looks like June of '64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6r523MsuUk
― timellison, Thursday, 21 December 2017 05:39 (six years ago) link
^ This is pretty great. Surprised they haven't cashed in an properly released that. Love how loud Lennon's guitar is in the mix.
― Darin, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link
yeah great footage and sound, not overwhelmed by the screams
― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link
it's a bummer some of the footage doesn't match though! (like ringo invisibly rocking out on "she loves you" 5 minutes in)
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link
That's the other band's drum set sitting there!
― timellison, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link