To those who've heard most of the stuff on these lists (assuming you exist): what's your average play count per album and how much 'older' music have you listened to this year?
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link
You're right to add "assuming you exist." I doubt the person who has heard most of the music on all of these lists exists, even on this board.
― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link
Stereogum - The Best Jazz Albums Of 2017https://www.stereogum.com/1975242/the-best-jazz-albums-of-2017/franchises/2017-in-review/
ht unperson
― faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link
I doubt the person who has heard most of the music on all of these lists exists, even on this board.
― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, December 13, 2017
Of course, of course. But maybe they exist within the confines of a given genre.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link
Is there a sound in jazz more instantly identifiable than Jane Ira Bloom's soprano saxophone?
I was always amazed at how in order to gain proper entrance to the jazz world you need to be able to recognize players by their sound, I think personally I might be able to pick out Miles Davis and Thelonius Monk, but that's about it... and I love jazz!
― niels, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
I like Bloom, but I hate that kind of hype-talk. I can tell a few players apart from the pack, but not super-reliably unless they're an incredibly individualistic stylist on the level of, say, Cecil Taylor, where there's absolutely no mistaking them for anyone else.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link
Happy with how nuts our electronic list turned out
https://t.co/1IcrGxHIab
― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link
LOVE the SW album, thanks for reminding me! I have it listed as 2016 but whatever
― sleeve, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:05 (six years ago) link
The Jane Ira Bloom album is glorious---unperson, whose column got me to check it out, is no soprano sax stan, to put it mildly---so if he likes it---!
― dow, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link
― sleeve, Wednesday, December 13, 2017 12:05 PM (thirty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah it rules
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link
that lanark artefax ep is v appropriately placed
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link
― brimstead, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link
"I suspect the lot of you are full of shit"
lol, i also listened to all the music GIVE ME MORE
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:48 (six years ago) link
wait until feb, I'm sure there'll be a new King Gizzard record
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link
lol, try a week or so
― sleeve, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:51 (six years ago) link
The textura list is insane, feels from another planet. I don’t think I’ve even heard about any of the artists in there. I’ll need to do some heavy listening this week.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:07 (six years ago) link
kerrang list (thanks kerr for providing me the scans)
1. Employed to Serve: The Warmth of a Dying Sun2. Enter Shikari: The Spark3. Code Orange: Forever4. Mastodon: Emperor of Sand5. Converge: The Dusk in Us6. Foo Fighters: Concrete and Gold7. Neck Deep: The Peace and the Panic8. Rise Against: Wolves9. The Menzingers: After the Party10. PVRIS: All We Know of Heaven, All We Need of Hell11. Creeper: Eternity, in Your Arms12. Can't Swim: Fail You Again13. AFI: AFI (The Blood Album)14. Pallbearer: Heartless15. Higher Power: Soul Structure16. Frank Carter & The Rattlesnakes: Modern Ruin17. Marilyn Manson: Heaven Upside Down18. Chelsea Wolfe: Hiss Spun19. The Bronx: The Bronx20. Royal Blood: How Did We Get So Dark?21. Queens of the Stone Age: Villains22. Nothing But Thieves: Broken Machine23. The Darkness: Pinewood Smile24. Prophets of Rage: Prophets of Rage25. Deaf Havana: All These Countless Nights26. The Used: The Canyon27. Glassjaw: Material Control28. Power Trip: Nightmare Logic29. Electric Wizard: Wizard Bloody Wizard30. Lower Than Atlantis: Safe in Sound31. Arcane Roots: Melancholia Hymns32. Asking Alexandria: Asking Alexandria33. While She Sleeps: You Are We34. Knuckle Punk: Shapeshifter35. Myrkur: Mareridt36. Ohhms: The Fool37. Papa Roach: Crooked Teeth38. Stone Sour: Hydrograd39. At the Drive-in: Interalia40. HO99O9: United States of Horror41. Linkin Park: One More Light42. Manchester Orchestra: A Black Mile to the Surface43. Thy Art is Murder: Dear Desolation44. Paramore: After Laughter45. ONE OK ROCK: Ambitions46. You Me At Six: Night People47. Grave Pleasures: Motherblood48. All Time Low: Last Young Renegade49. Stray from the Path: Only Death is Real50. Royal Thunder: Wick
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link
what a bizarre publication
i am listening to this arcane roots record i've never heard of and i think it might be right up simon's alley? mine as well tbh
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:43 (six years ago) link
I look forward to the bafflement that rummaging through these lists will inevitably generate.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link
Also… Papa Roach?
Dazed & Confused - The 20 best albums of 2017
http://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/38392/1/the-20-best-albums-of-2017
― faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:47 (six years ago) link
Vinyl Factory: Our favourite DJs on the tracks that defined the dance floor in 2017
https://thevinylfactory.com/features/favourite-djs-tracks-defined-dance-floor-2017/
― faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:53 (six years ago) link
Dazed & Confused - The 20 best K-Pop songs of 2017
http://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/38328/1/the-20-best-k-pop-songs-of-2017
― faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link
Anneli Drecker (whose solo album appears on the Textura list) also appears on the excellent Justin Adams album, Ribbons (also from this year). I couldn't get into the solo Drecker album, but maybe I'll try again.
― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 22:31 (six years ago) link
donald trump: new york born reality tv star who is often defended with "well he makes a lot of money, he must be good at something"; brash; self-inflating; revels in humiliating underlings; has an annoying voicecardi b: new york born reality tv star who defends herself by crowing about her ability to make "money moves"; brash; self-inflating; revels in humiliating underlings ("I'm a boss, you a worker bitch/ I make bloody moves"); has an annoying voice
― maura, Monday, December 11, 2017 3:58 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I can definitely see this.
My take on "Bodak" is that I understand why people gravitate to it but don't really enjoy it much.
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 14 December 2017 01:18 (six years ago) link
i don't remember all the p&j singles winners but this definitely seems to be the year w/ the least obvious #1 in quite a while ... like Bodak Yellow is fine but it feels like it's topping these lists because there just isn't that much competition. (side note to this: I think 3 or 4 songs from DAMN are sort of cannibalizing each other w/r/t 'best songs' lists.)
― alpine static, Thursday, 14 December 2017 04:07 (six years ago) link
This is def not me but I've honestly been finding it hard enough to digest (and even remember) all the music I did get.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 14 December 2017 04:13 (six years ago) link
Another question kinda related to that: how many 2017 albums have people even heard so far this year? I assume that it's gonna be a lot for the professional critics here, but how about everyone else? I've only heard about 40 but I'm gonna plow my way through a whole bunch more before i dare try to make any lists
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, 14 December 2017 04:44 (six years ago) link
Non-critic/non-blogger/non-DJ here. I would say I've heard at least a 100, maybe up 150 or even 200. There are a lot of things I listen to once and then largely forget about.
― _Rudipherous_, Thursday, 14 December 2017 04:55 (six years ago) link
Probably around 180 here, but that used to be higher. Now I have a real job so I have less time for music.
― Dinsdale, Thursday, 14 December 2017 06:28 (six years ago) link
who cares how many you've heard, that's fucking absurd, peace
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Thursday, 14 December 2017 06:30 (six years ago) link
not about quantity, but quality..?
― In a slipshod style (Ross), Thursday, 14 December 2017 06:33 (six years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/the-20-best-rap-albums-of-2017/
1. Kendrick Lamar - DAMN.2. Vince Staples - Big Fish Theory3. Tyler, the Creator - Flower Boy4. JAY-Z - 4:445. Migos - Culture6. Future - HNDRXX7. Run the Jewels - Run the Jewels 38. Playboi Carti - Playboi Carti9. Drake - More Life10. Lil B - Black Ken11. Open Mike Eagle - Brick Body Kids Still Daydream12. Wiki - No Mountains in Manhattan13. Chief Keef - Thot Breaker14. Lil Uzi Vert - Luv Is Rage 215. MIKE - May God Bless Your Hustle16. Kamaiyah - Before I Wake17. 2 Chainz - Pretty Girls Like Trap Music18. YoungBoy Never Broke Again - A.I. Youngboy19. milo - who told you to think??!!?!?!?!20. Rapsody - Laila’s Wisdom
― ArchCarrier, Thursday, 14 December 2017 07:18 (six years ago) link
I haven't heard any!
― saer, Thursday, 14 December 2017 07:35 (six years ago) link
unless you count clips, in which case Ive heard 1, the album by Atree (and not just because its by a tree though it played into it a little bit I will concede)
― saer, Thursday, 14 December 2017 07:36 (six years ago) link
I have only listened to TQD's "Baked Beans" on a loop all year
― The Dearth of Stollen (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 December 2017 07:42 (six years ago) link
oh but i see where you're going with this, how did I know such a thing existed and it is because its by atree but it doesnt totally sit right with me. i think "a tree" is better than "atree" but 'atree' is better than 'Atree', that capitalization is all wrong this listening to albums business is a stressful endeavour and thats before you even get to whatever nonsense may lie within
― saer, Thursday, 14 December 2017 07:43 (six years ago) link
think i listen to at least one new album every day at work, many of which i forget ever existed at all, possibly even sometimes while they're actually playing, but maybe 20% of those get saved on my ipod and get a few more plays while i'm moving around doing whatever. also buy probably one new album every week mostly just cos i have a stupid attachment to things and like going to record shops and all that crap, and even though i often forget all about some of those records too, on the whole they get listened to properly at home. so it's somewhere between 50 and 250 depending on what you want to count as listening.
― faust apes (NickB), Thursday, 14 December 2017 07:57 (six years ago) link
Cosmopolitan - The 10 Best Albums of 2017
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/music/a9157293/best-albums-of-2017/
― faust apes (NickB), Thursday, 14 December 2017 08:02 (six years ago) link
NPR - The 100 Best Songs Of 2017
https://www.npr.org/2017/12/13/568725030/the-100-best-songs-of-2017
― faust apes (NickB), Thursday, 14 December 2017 08:07 (six years ago) link
some of these lists are um... like do these people even know who liam gallagher is?
― faust apes (NickB), Thursday, 14 December 2017 08:08 (six years ago) link
i keep forgetting about Black Ken
― alpine static, Thursday, 14 December 2017 08:10 (six years ago) link
Year-end lists from Die Zeit, divided into the categories "Big Star", "Young Talent", "New Interpretation", "Secret Tip", "Good Entertainment", "Edition, Box Set" and "Musik Book".
― anatol_merklich, Thursday, 14 December 2017 08:36 (six years ago) link
npr song list looks p cool!
― niels, Thursday, 14 December 2017 09:31 (six years ago) link
XXL: 50 of the Best Hip-Hop Songs of 2017
http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2017/12/best-hip-hop-songs-2017/
― faust apes (NickB), Thursday, 14 December 2017 09:50 (six years ago) link
The Estonian Philharmonic Chamber Choir at #15 is quite the curveball. (xpost)
― Matt DC, Thursday, 14 December 2017 09:50 (six years ago) link
Very nice poem though
― abcfsk, Thursday, 14 December 2017 09:56 (six years ago) link
New York Times - The 25 Best Classical Music Recordings of 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/13/arts/music/best-classical-music-recordings-2017.html
― faust apes (NickB), Thursday, 14 December 2017 10:04 (six years ago) link