thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

Caretaker - this is just a bunch of thrift store record samples

otm, I've never understood the hype.

Angel olsens new one gets seriously dire in the second half. Love her but hate to say it's a bummer record

i'll just get this out of the way: most of the 2017 music is bad

Caretaker's not hyped though. It's got a steady following, but that's something else iirc.

Anyway I can't get enough of it.

no defences of albums itt imo

I've said this elsewhere I'm sure but the Julien Baker love-in is an album late; the new one is flat and mostly a disappointment

Where's the fun in that? xp

OK fine

but no holds barred. except like actual bigotry

KING KRULE is kind of boring.

oh yeah I can't take his voice for a second

Not as boring as The National though

That Big Thief album is boring as well. A charisma vacuum.

:o you're dead to me

I do like the Big Thief album a lot :(

LCD Soundsystem should be banned on the basis of that atrocious album cover alone. The music stinks, is completely irrelevant up to the point of self-charicture, and seeing critics hailing this has-been baffles me.

*caricature

thoroughly agree with every dis so far btw*. sleeve ur emperor palpatine

*not heard the bjork or big thief yet

Guided By Voices - the songs are twice as long and half as good (tbh I dunno how hyped this really was, but let's open the thread up to all contenders regardless of hype level/EOY standings)

I tried listening to the War on Drugs album once and I had to check the album wasn't starting over at some point. Still can't remember any of the songs in there.

@Moka, same here. It's drab.

Lorde is the new Carly Rae Jepsen - "pop" music that non-professionals spit out after a single taste, but which critics will continue to ride for forever.

Xp that is sort of the point with WoD - it's aural valium for the inhibited and the terminally nostalgic.

Me included.

Sounds like WoD do The Caretaker better than The Caretaker does!

I can't really diss it because I don't hate it at all but Yaeji seems overrated as hell to me. There's just not much going on musically and lyrically... every song seems she runs out of ideas and she just resorts to repeating words in the same monotonic voice.

Again, I don't hate it but I don't see what's so special about it either or why she's making it into so many EOY best songs lists.

Ok I'm done taking those out of my chest... I think... those are the ones frustrating me about their roaring approval.

Well, those an Bodak Yellow heh

i rate the yaeji EPs (2 isn't as good imo) but found it pretty easy to get burned out on her stuff. Not much replay value as there's not a whole lot of depth, ya

laurel halo album was a disappointment for me, way too esoteric and weird for weird sake

Xxp Kirby has a concept, though. Granduciel is walking in socks over cold coals.

I still don't really get what everyone liked so much about Black Beatles. I don't hate it, just does nothing much for me.

I think this is the first Laurel Halo album I like mainly on the strength of Moontalk alone but yes... it's way too dependent on its own quirks and weirdness.

moontalk is an amazing song! yeah

moka check out the king felix stuff if you haven't heard it, "spring" by king felix and her halo album "king felix"

I did not know about that project. Listening to spring now and it sounds amazing! Thanks for the recommendation.

:) sweet

the Fever Ray album was really disappointing to me

why? show your work :)

Sleaford Mods - this guy used to sound angry, now he just sounds bored (I do like most of the previous records)

Fever Ray was also so-so for me. I like the knife and the first fever ray album a lot, so I thought for sure this would be one of my favorite albums of the year but alas it ended being one of the most dissapointing ones for me. It’s just so hard to sit through... even harder than ‘shaking the habitual’ and that’s saying something.

I can get past the hamfisted lyrics (either way lyrics has never been her strong point), but the textures and production are sort of uninteresting too, the middle of the album is specially boring or annoying and contains some of her worst songs ever (“this country” really wtf is up with that).

I don’t know... I guess it’s just alright in small doses but I don’t want ‘just alright’ from her.

Ok maybe the production isn’t uninteresting... but it’s too harsh and irritating more often than not. I get that maybe that was her intent with this particular album but I’m not a masochist, sorry.

Yeah, my love for the first Fever Ray album is immense, this one is not bAd exactly, just very disappointing

yeah I agree with all of that Moka

the production mostly feels like lesser retreads of Silent Shout and the Fever Ray s/t, and the songwriting lacks the memorable melodies. the lyrics are a step down too - Silent Shout especially could be quite evocative but they're more hamfisted here and the BDSM subject matter of some of it is completely uninteresting to me

Sleaford Mods - this guy used to sound angry, now he just sounds bored (I do like most of the previous records)

heh this = lack of money > money

King Krule was the overrated hype of the year for me. Could barely get through that mess 3 times.

So I will probably dig his next record :P

Fever ray album is fucking great, just took time to grow on me. I mean it's not that different texturally from
The debut it's just more hyper kinetic arrangement wise. Give it some time, mustn't hurry

Lyrics aren't her strong point?? When I grow up and seven would put that theory to the test, memorable imo

heh this = lack of money > money

think dude had a pretty decent office job for a fair while before the band blew up so I'm not sure this is a big factor. latest album hasn't really landed for me like the previous ones though, could be a law of diminishing returns thing but I had (have) no issue with their complete lack of progression so idk

You’re right I take it back, heartbeats alone is one of the few sweet songs they have and it has some beautiful lines in there. The debut also has some stunning imagery... I’m just way too frustrated with this album.

moka, all good bud :)

i found the album hard to parse for quite a while tbh

This thread is tonic

Charly bliss - musical equivalent of doing lines of pixie stix

(Sandy) Alex g - i guess at a certain point all music / art will become a sort of lightly branded tabula rasa content for us to project upon

'Reclaims the avant-garde' is probably a worse line than anything in that 'overpraise' thread. It's nearly time for my hitpiece

Oh yea, the avant-garde has been reclaimed by some Berklee kid with an expensive synth set-up, a cloying lyrical sensibility and no songwriting skill to speak of! But it all sounds so burbly. Oo goo this be thee musick of thee spheres!

Sometimes it takes me a while to get around to a band, and I get that "Why did I wait so long?" feeling. Today I finally got around to listening to Knocked Loose and instead I thought, "Ugh, really?" The riffs are just reheated Emmure, and the vocalist suuuuucks.

Whatever one might think of "Diamond Jubilee", it's pretty awesome that we still have a cultural landscape where even though we're in a year with multiple releases by massive artists (Future, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Kali Uchis), a relatively-unknown musician can find their way into the ranks of the 'hyped', to where friends of mine with very little interest in trad indie rock have asked me about the record.

I love the Still House Plants. I was patient and let the album rewire me.

My attempt to listen to the Beyonce album did not last long. It was atrocious. The first song was just her making a bunch of awkward warbling noises for America. The second was a terribly overblown cover of Blackbird, which is possibly the Beatles's most precious and intimate song, the third had her complaining about how hard cooking, cleaning and earning $16 a day is. At that point I gave up on this billionaire. She seems to have forgotten Beyonce, the person who made great pop songs.

Kind of glad that some of the A-List artists released duds this year.

My attempt to listen to the Beyonce album did not last long. It was atrocious. The first song was just her making a bunch of awkward warbling noises for America. The second was a terribly overblown cover of Blackbird, which is possibly the Beatles's most precious and intimate song, the third had her complaining about how hard cooking, cleaning and earning $16 a day is. At that point I gave up on this billionaire. She seems to have forgotten Beyonce, the person who made great pop songs.

― a hoy hoy,

I treat it like a mixtape.

Whatever one might think of "Diamond Jubilee", it's pretty awesome that we still have a cultural landscape where even though we're in a year with multiple releases by massive artists (Future, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Kali Uchis), a relatively-unknown musician can find their way into the ranks of the 'hyped', to where friends of mine with very little interest in trad indie rock have asked me about the record.

― Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Sunday, 28 April 2024 21:42 (yesterday) link

TBH it's just the magic of the p4k BNM in action. I also have friends who would have never given it the time of day if it weren't for that.

there have been a couple dozen bnms already this year, but this was the first 9+ bnm in years. which i guess still means something!

you say that like ilx doesn't jump every time pitchfork says it

i guess i missed the rapturous posting about hovvdy and 1010benja

naming your act well still has importance

i don't care if ll cool j has good beats now, he's still a cancer on the culture and i think less of q-tip for throwing him a bone.

you're acting like he was a racist on purpose

yes, good response. the only attention he deserves is to be memed into permanent irrelevance.

wait what did i miss that makes ll "a cancer"?

Navy SEAL

The Basquiat energy line in that one chorus is so bad that I cut off the album and haven't revisited. Even before that I wasn't really getting the hype though.

Tbh I think Q-Tip's production is what is really carrying the weight for people, he's the real mvp

wait what did i miss that makes ll "a cancer"?

Black republican for much of his career if not still, is my guess. Not that this would make me use that term or dismiss a fire album, myself.

he's toxic. if you look at just his history of battles on record, he's a sore losing bully, at the very least. also a known practitioner of bitch moves iirc.

lmao at starting a criticism with “he’s toxic” and ending it with “bitch moves”

'educate yourself'

imago otm, dj musta missed "second round ko"

I can see this conversation going well.

canibus : ll :: kendrick : drake

i don't think imago's post means what you thought it means

I think if the dude who wants to make Diddy jokes after hearing the details of the indictment wants to make grand pronouncements about LL being “bad for the culture”, he is welcome to enjoy the version of the culture he has chosen to inhabit

when i was younger, i used to be impressed with someone's music knowledge, but many years on ilm has taught me kind of conclusively that 'listening to and knowing a lot about music' positively correlates with 'saying a lot of weird, bad and wrong things'. the only thing about that that offends me personally is that it does a disservice to the music. like, do i want to read a random bump about an r&b artist from the early 2000s i don't know anything about? yes i do. but wait, it's by this guy who has aggressively bad opinions on the regular, bummer, i'll skip it.

lol

All I could find re LL's politics is this 2012 interview:

LL Cool J joined the Tom Joyner Morning Show crew to discuss his political preferences. Check out what LL had to say about being a Republican.

Tom: Hey LL, did I read that you’re a Republican?

LL Cool J: I don’t know where people get this strange information from, but I’m not a Republican.

Sybil: Are you political at all?

LL Cool J: I’m not like trying to dive in there and be extra political this year. I’m going to vote for our man and hopefully he gets four more; but I’m not out there on the stump. That’s not my thing. I feel like I’m an entertainer my job is not to tell people who vote for what to do in their political lives. My job is to try to help them forget about their problems and escape from all the issues going on and just be entertained. That’s what I do.

maybe he's gone Trump idk

Rap battles were part of “the culture” before people even realized you could make songs out of it

LL Cool J gives the impression of being "socially liberal, fiscally conservative." I remember many years ago he gave an interview and talked about driving a leased Toyota rather than blowing all his money on a fleet of impractical luxury vehicles.

It's not a political album, but the opening track is not exactly giving right-wing talking points. "That badge is the mob/a big blue gang"

I was gonna say...

like LL i too drive a Toyota instead of blowing my money on a fleet of impractical luxury vehicles

"guy who hates ll out of loyalty to a 25-year-old beef with canibus" is a great bit, i will say

lol indeed

more like sadlol

also i chose nothin, just been gatekept out of places so frequently that i have to be here.

what was your screen name on okp?

maybe he's gone Trump idk

Since I brought this up, no, he def hasn't, as proven by that opening track, which is why I hedged with "for much of his career if not still". Dunno where I got this misconception from, read something along those lines in the 90's and then the Al Sharpton joke in "One In The Morning" plus guest spot on "Accidental Racist" cemented it for me. Happy to hear it's not true tho!

all i know is, one transgender sex worker names you as one of their clients, ever afterwards trans people smile and wink when your name comes up in conversation. i mean personally, i think if you're a sex worker it's kinda rude to publicly name your clients like that. i mean so what? who even cares? i sure don't.

It's not a political album, but the opening track is not exactly giving right-wing talking points. "That badge is the mob/a big blue gang"