― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 April 2003 00:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
Public Enemy - You're a cloth-eared IDIOT if you can't hear the brilliance in Public Enemy's first three albums. De La Soul - Not my favorites, but had some decent moments.
Run DMC - Ditto.
Beastie Boys - Fuck you. Beastie Boys are brillaint.
Europe - Crap.
Cinderella - Embarassing, yes, but had the odd decent track.
Poison - Utter crap.
M/A/R/R/S - Why are you picking on a one-hit wonder? You're a jackass.
Bomb The Bass - Produced at least two tracks worth hearing.
Bros - Never heard'em over here.
New Kids On The Block - Crap, of course.
Breathe - Don't know'em.
Curiousity Killed The Cat - Meaningless.
Samantha Fox - Crap.
Sabrina - Crap.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 21 April 2003 00:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 21 April 2003 00:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
New Kids - pretty dross, but no worse than N Sync
Breathe - one hit wonder, dreary ballad
Curiosity Killed The Cat - Misfit and Down To Earth were big childhood faves, they can stay
Sam Fox and Sabrina - a modicum of camp and humourous value at least
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 21 April 2003 00:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
The 80s Beastie Boys were about 8 trillion times better than the 90s Beastie Boys, and anyone who doesn't at least like "Fight For Your Right" is completely insane. That song ruined my life and I still love it. Geir in not liking rap music shockah, etc.
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 April 2003 00:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Evan (Evan), Monday, 21 April 2003 09:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
Geir, this statement coupled with your list makes it clear that you do not mean any of this. You cannot possibly use the words "best" and "of all time" in conjunction with The Alarm! Then saying that Public Enemy, Run DMC and De La Soul made bad music further reinforces the plain idiocy of this statement - if you are joking, then you are getting close to comedy genius, but if you're not I am quite frankly lost for words. You are so wrong a deaf person could tell you so. I would venture to say that Run DMC were THE most important band of the past three decades, that Public Enemy made music that changed my life and De La Soul went on to make it even better. While I don't normally set much store by notions of "taste", you obviously do and, I'm sorry to say, yours is truly abysmal! How do you place the aforementioned bands in a list with Curiosity Killed The Cat and Bros? Utterly dumbfounded...
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 21 April 2003 10:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
the alarm's choruses ranking among "best" "of all time"...heh-heh-heh-heh-HEH...their song titles alone are hilariously bad...and PE, run-dmc, de la soul not making the grade, that's fucking brilliant.
incidentally, my girlfriend saw de la soul perform yesterday, and she said they were excellent. i have no reason to doubt her evaluation. she was stone-cold sober and it was the middle of the day.
this is like what, fourteen years or so down the road from '3 Feet High and Rising'?
dare i even ask what the current status of the alarm or its former members is? are they still coming up with choruses that are spoken of in the same breath as 'ode to joy'?
― Dallas Yertle (Dallas Yertle), Monday, 21 April 2003 11:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 21 April 2003 12:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
Keep telling yourself that.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 April 2003 12:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
PLEASE INSERT COIN
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 21 April 2003 12:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
Alarm could have been completely crap, and still better than any hip-hop ever
Hip-hop is the worst ever thing to have happened to music since Schönberg invented his 12 tone "music".
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 21 April 2003 12:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
Everything that has happened since then (apart from Britpop, which was a retro thing anyway) has taken music in the wrong directions. In a fair world, everybody would have hated musically talentless crap like rap, R&B and funk while Alarm would have been considered one of the most important acts of the 80s. Not because of being "influential" (who needs progression all the time anyway?), but because of their great singalong choruses.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 21 April 2003 13:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
Titles of The Alarm's Greatest Choruses, err, Songs
"Where Were You Hiding When We Were Writing What Were Among the BEST Choruses of All Time, Whilst Putting Classic & Innovative Hip Hop Groups to Shame?"
"68 Guns (is Another Wretched Excuse for a Song Title, But it Matters None Because Our Choruses Stun All Human Aesthetic Sensibilities With their Heretofore Unparalleled Excellence)"
"Strength (Through Choruses of A Mind-Blowingly Wonderful Nature Which Erase Any Notions of Achievement by Genre-Transcending Rap Artists)"
"The Stand (Of The Best Choruses Ever Written and Performed, Against the Overwhelmingly Outmatched Hip Hop Artists, who Although Universally Acclaimed, are Actually Total Shite Because All Hip Hop is Total Shite, Owing to The Genre's Lack of Awesome Choruses, Such as We Possess in Extraordinary Quantities)"
"Spirit of '86 (A Year Known Only for Our Amazing Choruses and the Further Degeneration of the Already Illegitimate Music Genre Known as Hip Hop)"
― Dallas Yertle (Dallas Yertle), Monday, 21 April 2003 13:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 April 2003 13:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
your first sentence leads me to suspect that maybe you are liam gallagher writing under an assumed name. were oasis closet fans of the alarm? (is there any other kind? well, other than ironic ones taking the piss like i know you surely must be doing here...)
i know this will anger you, but, honestly, how can you make the statement in your second sentence and not be expected to be accused of being racist? "all" rap, r&B and funk is "musically talentless crap"??? i can understand those genres not being to your taste... but to deny that there is a tremendous amount of talent that went into the making of the countless songs in these categories is again, either you trying to be comical, or you being just bizarrely malicious...for what reasons, i can only surmise.
"Not because of being "influential" (who needs progression all the time anyway?), but because of their great singalong choruses."
with that logic, most football chants qualify as brilliant pop music, then, eh?
― Dallas Yertle (Dallas Yertle), Monday, 21 April 2003 13:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 21 April 2003 13:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
that does not compute.
― Dallas Yertle (Dallas Yertle), Monday, 21 April 2003 13:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 21 April 2003 13:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 21 April 2003 15:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 April 2003 15:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 21 April 2003 15:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
putting fingers in ears and singing "la, la, la — i can't hear you!" for all i'm worth
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 21 April 2003 15:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 April 2003 15:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Monday, 21 April 2003 17:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 21 April 2003 17:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
If there will ever possibly be any hip-hop song which
- contains absolutely no rap at all- has a lot of compilated and sophisticated chord changes- takes zero inspiration from R&B and a lot of inspiration from European classical music and Tin Pan Alley- Puts a lot of emphasis on melody and harmony and absolutely no emphasis on rhythm at all- the melodic parts are one hundred per cent originally composed, there is no sampling or turntablismn at all- is throughoutly pre-composed with absolutely no improvisation- takes one hundred per cent of its influences from European, European and absolutely nothing but European music
....then I'd probably like it.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 21 April 2003 19:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
What, like gypsy folk music?!?
― Gatinha (rwillmsen), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
I love music, and music is European. Music was invented in Ancient Greece. What was before that wasn't called "music" by those who created it, and thus it wasn't music
By the way, is there any music which is 100 per cent European - I think not.
As long as the melodic and harmonic qualities of European music remains untouched, it doesn't matter whether other things are added in addition. There is nothing wrong with a drum pulse as long as it is kept in the background and doesn't disturbe the overall total dominance of the melody and its belonging harmonies.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
You are mad... plenty of things didn't have European names until they were given to them. It doesn't mean they didn't exist before then...
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
Absolute total bilge... music has been with us near enough forever
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
I don't like Osmonds either. Those guys weren't melodically and harmonically sophisticated enough.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
he still won't answer the question of why his side is losing
― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
and why is your side losing the war?
― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 21 April 2003 20:32 (twenty-one years ago) link