he might say that in an interview, but his haircut says "it's hard"
― Scatperson (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-whore.) (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:47 (six years ago) link
you namecheck The Blue Nile for a certain vibe because the closest analogues (Avalon et. al.) just aren't really that close.
― Tim F, Tuesday, January 9, 2018 10:03 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
on one hand it's hard to imagine Blue Nile existing without Roxy Music's influence, but you're right that Avalon doesn't quite do the same thing, there's a certain louche quality to Ferry despite moments that are very heartbreaking, whereas Blue Nile seems entirely sadness and ennui (no fun disco times)
also, Avalon is a great record and definitely has its own magic quality, but it's also a ROXY MUSIC album, so it's pretty impossible (for me at least) not to view it in the larger context of "This is a phase in the evolution of ROXY MUSIC an iconic rock band", whereas Blue Nile just emerged fully formed with Walk Across the Rooftops, and when I first heard them (Hats) it all felt sort of mysterious like "where did these guys come from?"
― Keak da Sneaky Dianne (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 19:38 (six years ago) link
kaputt is better than everything that influenced it
― ufo, Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:45 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
*closes tab*
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:35 (six years ago) link
hey everyone, i just went out into real life and took some readings. turns out that the stock of blue nile has risen, but only by 34 points, which hovers on the edge of stastistical significance. i repeat, blue nile's stock is up by 34 points over the last decade in the real world.
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, January 10, 2018 12:24 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
IDK man have you checked 538 recently? Things are turning around!
― Evan, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:47 (six years ago) link
RealClearPolitics has Hats' silk bathrobe despair averages +10 over three months ago
― Keak da Sneaky Dianne (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:50 (six years ago) link
The Blue Nile hasn't really hit me yet. I think that particular gloomy 80s soundscape is just not really my thing. I really like Mid Air a lot though!
― Evan, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:50 (six years ago) link
the gloom comes for everbody eventually iirc
― faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:57 (six years ago) link
even turrican, though he be full of bile and blue nile denial
― faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 20:58 (six years ago) link
I love all sorts of other gloomy soundscapes though ftr
― Evan, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link
Gloom has always been my joint and it's precisely what this album is missing.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:13 (six years ago) link
a gloom at the top
― Keak da Sneaky Dianne (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link
'Missing' more than 'lacking', really, as it fails to attain its goal.
xp
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:16 (six years ago) link
well it’s not really the gloom that crushes me on hats tbh - as the old cliche goes, it’s the hope
― faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 21:17 (six years ago) link
Win Butler responds to Trump's disparaging comments about Haiti
― billstevejim, Friday, 12 January 2018 18:39 (six years ago) link
Mad Libs has gotten weird
― rob, Friday, 12 January 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link
feel like this happened before
Honestly that Pfork profiled the daughter of one their major brand partners is low key amazing. https://t.co/USfN8g0HN8— David Turner (@_davidturner_) January 16, 2018
― Frozen CD, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link
not surprising and yeah certainly not unprecedented. p4k is just Rolling Stone now. Schreiber will try to play gatekeeper as Jann has done, although without a Hall of Fame, not sure how successful he will be.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:30 (six years ago) link
I'm predicting her actual album will end up scoring somewhere in the 5.something range.
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 22:45 (six years ago) link
I remember during the Chillwave boom there was the band Small Black that consisted of some guys that worked for Pitchfork.tv
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 22:49 (six years ago) link
lol i was going to post that youtuber then i clicked on it and read "singer & songwriter" in the kicker and went on my way
must be nice to have that Converse money
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link
wonder if that's why her shoes are curiously cropped out in that photo
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link
That song is good imo
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 03:12 (six years ago) link
sounds a lot like maria minerva
― kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 03:32 (six years ago) link
isnt this also a testament to youtube stardom being a rich kid pursuit
― maura, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 05:57 (six years ago) link
I haven't heard a note of this but I'm liking the idea of a third Paul brother trying to make a go at making an outsider house tape for Orange Milk
― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 14:45 (six years ago) link
p4k is just Rolling Stone now.
"now"
― brimstead, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link
i'm all for anybody making a go at outsider house
― brimstead, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 15:54 (six years ago) link
P4k won't be rolling stone until they give every hype album 3 1/2 stars
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:01 (six years ago) link
I can't see P4k truly becoming Rolling Stone, because they don't have a legacy act like a Bruce Springsteen or a U2 that they will give a high rating to regardless of an album's content. They are a little more concerned with hyping the new. Most bands that have been around for a while tend to get stuck in that 6-7.9 range.
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link
they don't have a legacy act like a Bruce Springsteen or a U2 that they will give a high rating to regardless of an album's content.
Radiohead of course
― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:17 (six years ago) link
I guess that's true, despite King of Limbs getting 7.9.
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link
Radiohead preceded them, though. p4k's legacy acts are Arcade Fire and Animal Collective, both of whom they've either trashed or given lukewarm reviews to in recent years.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link
kanye?
― austinb, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link
not defining to their brand, of course, but i'm curious to see whether they give the next album a high rating after Pablo was the benefactor of a sort of critical ac/dc rule
― austinb, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link
I would not be surprised if a new Kanye album didn't show up this side of 2020, if at all
― mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:25 (six years ago) link
true, doesn't seem a high priority for him.
more on-the-nose p4k darlings are probably LCD Soundsystem, Bon Iver, and Fleet Foxes.
― austinb, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link
yeah otm, was gonna say LCD but they got a rave review last year. same goes for recent Bon Iver and Fleet Foxes records. so, point taken
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:36 (six years ago) link
Grimes? idk... p4k really only had a monopoly on taste in the mid/late 00s. LCD is spot on, I was gonna say Interpol too but like The Strokes they had that last gasp of support from MTV & radio. Same goes for Kanye.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link
Arcade Fire, Animal Collective, Bon Iver, Fleet Foxes, Dan Deacon... these are artists that owe p4k their careers imo
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link
The Black Kids, of course
― Number None, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link
ahahahhaha
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link
the difference is that there were a buttload of other sites/magazines rating that LCD album. Are there any heritage artists p4k goes out on a critical limb for?
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link
clap your hands say tapes n tapes
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link
Wasn't p4k pretty late on the Bon Iver bandwagon?
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:42 (six years ago) link
xxp right, that was my thinking. when they broke in 2002, p4k was still competing with mags & MTV & the last gasps of major label raiding.
oh yeah, add The Decemberists to the list. Microphones/Mount Eerie too.
xp i don't think so fred, i remember them giving a rave review of for emma forever ago before it had even been reissued, though i could be wrong. but they definitely weren't late on that one.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:43 (six years ago) link
other sites rated the lcd album, but p4k did that hagiography of every single one of their tracks when they first "broke up". i feel like their commitment to making them Important goes beyond that of other pubs
― austinb, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/10709-for-emma-forever-ago/
I don't know, it's positive, but it's not even BNM'd.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link
it was overlooked almost everywhere iirc, broke a year after release
― niels, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link
broken social scene
― marcos, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:03 (six years ago) link
totally, it may not have gotten BNM but 8.1 is a ringing endorsement, and the fact that they reviewed it in early October 2007 is telling. I certainly found out about the record from p4k and didn't see it written about anywhere else until the early months of 2008.
xp yes! BSS absolutely
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link