Yeah despite what I posted I'd still like to get a physical copy of it. CD or vinyl whatever. Cassette would be great.
― everything, Friday, 19 January 2018 21:22 (six years ago) link
saw him 10 years ago - wound up getting right up to the front so I could see them up close, might have been one of the most impressive shows I've ever seen
― brimstead, Friday, 19 January 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link
I wish there were more hooks... or any hooks for that matter
― skip, Saturday, 20 January 2018 07:47 (six years ago) link
Point has a very similar sound but the feel is radically different, and better.
"Tone Twilight Zone" is a very effective interlude but I don't want to hear 45 minutes of it.
― skip, Saturday, 20 January 2018 07:49 (six years ago) link
the first three tracks were a great development on the Point sound but the rest is fairly uninteresting. i haven't come back to it much at all
― ufo, Saturday, 20 January 2018 08:08 (six years ago) link
it's not melodically rich but he's developed a superb sense of sound design (prob. why he works best in collaboration!)
― Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:09 (six years ago) link
This "sound design" thing needs to be addressed though. WTF is it supposed to mean? Is he more of a "sound designer" than Metallica, Brian Eno, Billy Childish, Jim Thirwell or literally anyone else who makes a track where a specific philosophy re. the sound is a strong guiding motive? Feels like this has become a genre like "indie" which is now disconnected from the actual definition of the word. Applied to Cornelius, "sound design" seems like a portentous way to describe "Crises"-era Mike Oldfield-inspired production paired with a rather narrow palate of chimes, creaks, rimshots etc (with lots of dramatic stereo effects of course.) As a solo artist, Cornelius has painted himself into a corner with this stuff.
― everything, Sunday, 21 January 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link
he does one thing and he does it extremely well. if lack of variety is a bad thing in a listener's book, cornelius will never be more than a second rate talent at best. personally i'm not bothered about his limitations.
― Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Sunday, 21 January 2018 01:10 (six years ago) link
He only does one thing NOW. His mid-late 90s stuff was all over the place. It's disappointing how narrow his range has ended up.
― everything, Sunday, 21 January 2018 01:47 (six years ago) link
i don't get it, is he supposed to somehow break the rule that every musician from the dawn of time has succumbed to? people get old, they get conservative. artists's experimental bent naturally becomes more refined with time. compared Bob Dylan 1966 to 1986. what a slacker, right. painted himself into a corner. Paul McCartney wrote "Yesterday" in 1965 and twenty years later he made Give My Regards to Broad Street.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 21 January 2018 12:28 (six years ago) link
hey I'm just saying what everyone else here seems to be dancing around - that it's quite a boring album - a disappointment. No doubt a month after Give My Regards To Broad Street came out lots of McCartney fans were observing that the hype had mysteriously died and that they weren't returning to the album much, despite the awesome sound design.
― everything, Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:00 (six years ago) link
Conservative and refined doesn't have to lead to boring.
― skip, Sunday, 21 January 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link
i'm listening to it more than i am to a lot of the other 2017 records i liked... but maybe i am a boring person!
i also don't think that "mellow waves" is any more stylistically limited as an album than "fantasma" was, once you strip away all of the stuff he nicked from other people. i mean maybe mellow waves would be a better album if he put more effort into ripping off sampha or daniel caesar but it doesn't quite seem like a fair criticism to make?
i think the eno point of reference is an interesting one. i've found pretty much everything eno's done since "my squelchy life" to be really tediously dull, but i haven't had that experience with cornelius. chacun à son goût i guess?
― Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Sunday, 21 January 2018 21:59 (six years ago) link
feel like i agree that "it's boring" but it doesn't matter, in fact, i like it. the album is called Mellow Waves so i would just change" boring" to "mellow".
fwiw this year i finally started listening in earnest to Steely Dan and soft rock for the first time in my life, maybe i am turning in a boring old fart lol. if i want to blow my brains out i can always thrown on "Ball In-Kick Off" this stuff will do nicely
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 January 2018 15:40 (six years ago) link
I'd take an entire album of that guitar solo on "If You're Here." It's a good record, but there are too many filler tracks, which I'll admit he's always seemed fond of, and not enough content.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 16:41 (six years ago) link
the guitar solo on if you're here is one of my favourite things he's done
― ufo, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 17:00 (six years ago) link
my vinyl copy showed up friday, im listening this morning. it's really good hangover music
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 28 January 2018 16:06 (six years ago) link
Sounding very nice on my stereo, glad I don't have to stream it anymore. I forgot how much "In a Dream" sounds like Prefab Sprout's "Appetite."
― geoffreyess, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 02:13 (six years ago) link
they are on tour right now. saw some cool photos of them playing in Mexico a few days ago. also this!
https://i.imgur.com/jks8CZn.png
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 March 2018 03:33 (six years ago) link
got to say a Mac Demarco/Cornelius split EP would be a sweet thing to hear.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 March 2018 03:35 (six years ago) link
there's also Constellations of Music, which is basically CM5 but does contain a few original tracks on it (including two by salyu x salyu, one of which is a great cover of "Hammond Song")
wow, this "hammond song" cover!!
otoh, yeah, this new cornelius album is pretty boring, huh? wish he'd just work with salyu more instead tbh. there's some cool stuff on here but the laid back arrangements make his weak vox stick out kinda uncomfortably imo.
how's the live show these days?
― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 5 March 2018 04:31 (six years ago) link
Saw them at the 930 club in DC and loved the video/visuals and much of the music (the art-pop with rhythmic beat cuts more than the 2 that sounded kinda metalcore0
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 8 March 2018 05:32 (six years ago) link
http://thequietus.com/articles/23926-cornelius-interview-favourite-albums
He did another top album list...Smiths, Prefab Sprout, Donovan, D'angelo, Jeff Phelps and more
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 8 March 2018 05:40 (six years ago) link
listened to (s)oun(d)beams for the first time in a while today and it's still excellent, one of his best works & i really hope there's more salyu x salyu someday. definitely better than Mellow Waves
― ufo, Thursday, 8 March 2018 12:02 (six years ago) link
I forget where I saw this first, but I looked it up again after seeing the thread and think this is new?
http://www.hmv.co.jp/newsdetail/article/1802201001/
― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 8 March 2018 15:36 (six years ago) link
https://www.npr.org/event/music/593894464/cornelius-tiny-desk-concert
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:35 (six years ago) link
ah, cool stuff, thanks for the link
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 13:42 (six years ago) link
xxp - that must be a second volume of music from the NHK Design Ah show. I have the first disc and it's pretty good - even more granular and stripped back than Sensuous but actually a bit better than that album. because at least the concept is clear.
― frogbs, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:36 (six years ago) link
he looks so young
― DJ U OK Hun? (jed_), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 16:58 (six years ago) link
has anyone seen him on the latest tour? bummed i missed the sf show.
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link
xp yeah wtf has he been sealed in a box these last 12 years
― frogbs, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link
nm just read review upthread and watched the npr thing :D
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link
https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/design-a-2/1357728295
new nhk design is out
nowhere to download if you're not in Japan, though... not as far as I can tell. lotsa samples at the link.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 19:29 (six years ago) link
http://towershibuya.jp/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/18_02_22_DA2L-0002-1024x683.jpg
Packaging for the new one looks cool.
― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 22 March 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link
mellow waves is good, i just listened to it for the first time
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 March 2018 20:43 (six years ago) link
Anyone tracked down a copy of the new NHK Design in the wild? I'm thinking of ordering it. What's the best shop?
― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 26 March 2018 15:57 (six years ago) link
I bought it on iTunes Japan.
It's really good. Stands on its own.
I dare say it's better than Mellow Waves!
Check it out.
― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 29 March 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link
http://cornelius.patatap.com/
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 7 May 2018 12:30 (six years ago) link
that NHK comp is really good! better than the first one, even. love that he brought back the Teriyaki Boyz beat he did and added in Cibo Matto
― frogbs, Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:59 (six years ago) link
Yeah, it's really good. Worth the purchase.
― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link
apparently cornelius covered "passionfruit" for a spotify session. i've never heard anything drake's done in his entire career and also i don't spotify so i'll probably never hear it, but i bet it's good.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Friday, 18 May 2018 02:03 (six years ago) link
it's pretty groovy and shockingly faithful to the original
― 808s & Deep States (voodoo chili), Friday, 18 May 2018 13:30 (six years ago) link
there's a volume 3 NHK comp coming out? damn!
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 20 June 2018 02:13 (five years ago) link
That's great. The second one is awesome.
― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 21 June 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link
i forget the name of the track, but the interview about fave albums reminds me that he played a song at field day a few weeks back that was basically Appetite by prefab sprout. not that thats a bad thing, in fact its a very good thing.
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Thursday, 21 June 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkOdy7l9qZI
「デザインあ3」発売!2018.07.18 発売¥2,000+税WPCL-12891
1. 朝の5分版テーマ2. デザインあのテーマ (うた ショコラ)3. 森羅万象 (うた 大野由美子)4. 見えないものを見る5. ピッタリ (うた 小山田圭吾)6. 都市のレイヤー7. てん せん めん (うた ショコラ)8. そざい体操第一9. 間に合わせる10. SHOOT&EDIT (うた LEO今井)11. くりかえし12. めでたい - おせち (KAKATO - 環ROY × 鎮座DOPENESS)13. クラッチ14. もん15. まつ (うた 高橋幸宏)16. きせる17. うちとそと18. ポスターフライト19. ことのはうた (うた 中納良恵)20. チーム○○21. エンディングテーマ
There's also a DVD - https://youtu.be/M0QCTBOAsYg
― Jeff W, Monday, 23 July 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link
these little design あ records are so fun
― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Thursday, 2 August 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link
Has anyone heard the third NHK yet?
Also, how about this?
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/international/8466374/japan-cornelius-new-album-ripple-waves
― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 20 September 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link
only on the first track but I'm really amused by this so far
― frogbs, Saturday, 22 September 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link
I dont think this album is particularly mellow
― calstars, Saturday, 22 September 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link