well fuck this
fuck death
― Dinsdale, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link
The obit on the guardian is such a mess, clearly a draft they had ready but didn't check, deserves better
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link
Was it removed? Can't find anything about it on their site
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link
RIP.
Although I've been preparing myself for this news for months. In some ways, I find it remarkable that he made it to 60.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link
This one (actually not an obit) https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jan/24/mark-e-smith-lead-singer-with-the-fall-dies-aged-60
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link
Oh shit huge loss RIP
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link
RIP Mark
heaven can now have killer sessions again, they are back together
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtIPlWzM84c
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link
A bit gobsmacked by this, although I knew he'd been unwell. RIP MES. Thanks for the legacy.
― Jeff W, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link
His death was previously wrongly announced by the BBC in March last year, on his 60th birthday.
Nice way to end your obit, Graun, real classy
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link
i always felt like the fall had so much vitriol, so unrelenting, that when he did have the rare moment of tenderness it was so much more affecting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbMG1v7qDqs
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link
yeah know what you mean, gutted
― Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:43 (six years ago) link
xp Marc Riley is playing this right now on 6Music <3
Shit news but not unexpected after recent events.
RIP
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:44 (six years ago) link
absolutely
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:47 (six years ago) link
(thanks for the tip on 6music Neil)
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:48 (six years ago) link
This song was my Fall gateway. Intro'd here by Tony Wilson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wygQmJ59E4Q
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:52 (six years ago) link
Thinking of Fizzles the Chimp, sorry for your loss.
― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link
ah bollocks. :c RIP.
― Ludo, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:55 (six years ago) link
Up here in the North there are no wage packet jobs for usThank ChristWhile young married couples discuss the povertiesOf their self-built trapsAnd the junior clergy demand more cashWe spit in their plate and wait for the ice to melt
― the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:57 (six years ago) link
man, shit.
― andrew m., Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:57 (six years ago) link
I can never tell if “Bill is Dead” is genuinely tender or totally vicious satire. Maybe both, who knows.
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:58 (six years ago) link
not
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:58 (six years ago) link
They obviously had their differences but Marc Riley seems properly rattled and emotional right now
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:58 (six years ago) link
text a v good friend and fall fan (we used to get stoned as teenagers and listen to their records):“I know you said when you saw the Fall last he looked like he was ill. And that it was one of their best ever performances you'd seen”
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:01 (six years ago) link
I was playing 'Fortress/deer park' in the car on the way home today (thanks to an Uncut freebie - worth the money for once but anyway) and wondered how long he had left.
Having said that, I'm never more than a month away from having played some Fall, and I made a point of playing that Singles (a's and b's) before he goes..
So, bring on the tribs. Including the News at ten..
― Mark G, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:13 (six years ago) link
he may have ended with his most challenging record to date (New Facts Emerge) which is really fucking saying something
"Couples vs. Jobless Mid 30s" is such an insane piece of work
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link
"Couples vs. Jobless Mid 30s"
speaking of which, greatest song/album title-r in rock history??
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:15 (six years ago) link
yep :) to both your posts
― #TeamHailing (imago), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:15 (six years ago) link
Man City team must surely wear black armbands on SUnday as he was the only famous person who admitted to supporting them for about 30 years or so.
― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:16 (six years ago) link
even his crap albums were called things like Are You Are Missing Winner, making them actually not-crap. and then you listen and realise they were never crap
― #TeamHailing (imago), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:17 (six years ago) link
there's them gallaghers but totally agree that they should xp
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:17 (six years ago) link
Just chuckling away at "Cary Grant's Wedding" right now.
― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:21 (six years ago) link
Literally chuckling.
― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:22 (six years ago) link
someone on facebook said he wrote a note to be read to the crowd at the last cancelled show? is there a link to it?
― scott seward, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link
Is the Fall's 'Bill is dead' the most romantic song ever written?
Going to go with genuinely tender.
― Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:23 (six years ago) link
Np YFOC really fuckin loud
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:24 (six years ago) link
xxpost Scott, here
A Message to All, to All. From Mark E. Smith/The Fall group. As I, like Pr Rupert leave Bristol with my tail between my legs, I wish to give my great apologies to everybody. This idiotic idea to do both shows was purely my idea, against the advice of Pamela and The Fall group, agent & promoter. Hope to replace shows within 4 - 6 weeks. In the interim we have eight new songs ready to go and will try and let you hear a few before Christmas. From head patient to you, the patients. I love you all but cannot embrace you all, Mark E. Smith
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:24 (six years ago) link
just said to a friend:i'm not interested in sentimentality about this. they always reached beyond, into and around death, mocking and laughing and vicious. idk. memorialise, feel sad, but stand up.
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:25 (six years ago) link
OT M
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:25 (six years ago) link
Hard to be sad listening to them, he was so fucking funny.
― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link
YFOC such a classic album xp
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link
yes to Fizzles, proper response here is "LOL fuk u death" IMO
― sleeve, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:26 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBUiPs1PxKo
this will never not cheer me up
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:27 (six years ago) link
Completely gutted and fucked right now. Someone queue up a the live vers of "NWRA" from the Part of America Therein at brain bleeding volumes and I'll take a Laphroaig and Peroni while yr up.
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:27 (six years ago) link
― Fizzles, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:27 (six years ago) link
The great palimpsest
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link
Yarbles. To. Even.
― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:30 (six years ago) link
ilx0r: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/24/arts/music/mark-e-smith-the-fall-best-songs.html
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link
We need an interview with MES talking abt the recently passed MES and how he, MES, never really was much of a fan of MES, though he was certainly aware of him and was a proper frontman, not dancing about
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:32 (six years ago) link
I can't believe he played those last shows
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 February 2018 16:46 (six years ago) link
yeah it really is a testament to his force of will
very touching, thanks for posting that
― sleeve, Monday, 12 February 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link
One of the things I think that gets overlooked when people talk about the Fall and all the records/songs and all the touring and continuing despite turnovers and illness & etc. is that I don't think you can look at them like a "band" exactly. You need to think about them as a small business, like a plumbing service (MES's dad was a plumber). MES never seemed to wait for creative inspiration or the mood to strike to write songs, they were constantly writing because that's what bands do, they write songs and put out records. That's how you make money.
People quit or get fired you don't close up shop, you find replacements. You might be sick but you press on cuz that's just what you do.
In Hanley's book he points that right from the start (or least from when Bramah & Friel exit) the group was organized from the top down, MES & management in charge and controlling the purse strings and everyone else was essentially an employee, drawing a wage, going to the boss when gear needed to be replaced etc.
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 12 February 2018 16:58 (six years ago) link
And like a small business owner MES sort of equally loves & hates "the lads" and berates them when they fuck up but when Hanley's son is born premature they basically give him six months paid leave (though I suspect that was more Brix then MES)
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 12 February 2018 17:01 (six years ago) link
I just finally watched the videos of that final Glasgow show yesterday Fuckin hell.
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Monday, 12 February 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link
There is a 'tribute' column in Private Eye this week, a sort-of message from the afterlife. It's touching that they did it, it's not something they've done often if at all before. Obviously it's terrible, but hey.
― Mark G, Monday, 12 February 2018 18:56 (six years ago) link
"Re-Mit", which I probably haven't listened to since it was released really sounding good this AM.
― chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 14:08 (six years ago) link
This person’s posthumous top 20 is really well chosen and really really well written. http://hippriestess.tumblr.comLa Lechera if u want another fall playlist...
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link
As a mark of respect for the great Mark E Smith we’ve displayed Grayson Perry’s ‘My Heroes’ with MES’s portrait to the fore. In Studio Ceramics, Room 142, The Lydia and Manfred Gorvy Gallery, V&A. #markesmith #markesmithrip #TheFall #GraysonPerry #ceramics @V_and_A @Alan_Measles pic.twitter.com/jhRNuxhfZc— Alun Graves (@alun_graves) February 14, 2018
― Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Thursday, 15 February 2018 09:18 (six years ago) link
Barry Sheen is on the other side iirc. (April Ashley and Aubrey Beardsley also, according to Wikipedia)
There's one of Johnny Vegas' teapots in the same room.
― koogs, Thursday, 15 February 2018 10:13 (six years ago) link
it actually looks a bit more like Mick than Mark IMO
― Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Thursday, 15 February 2018 10:49 (six years ago) link
Indeed. Lips too sumptuous
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 February 2018 14:52 (six years ago) link
listing Grotesque on Ebay...
https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32089895_10156857634282137_5340684110501249024_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=05d24c05f3899b8cdff18f56635f8a49&oe=5B89CB0E
― scott seward, Monday, 7 May 2018 15:34 (six years ago) link
nice
― sleeve, Monday, 7 May 2018 15:39 (six years ago) link
ha ha yes
― DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 7 May 2018 16:17 (six years ago) link
golden
― when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Monday, 7 May 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link
p sure The Real New Fall LP covers the rest
― imago, Monday, 7 May 2018 17:39 (six years ago) link
Expanded and slightly rejiggered version of "50,000 Fall Fans Can't be Wrong":
https://www.cherryred.co.uk/product/the-fall-58-golden-greats-58-original-tracks-including-all-the-hits-3cd-boxset/
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link
Huh, track list drops "Green Eyed Loco-Man" - which seems like a real loss!
― BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link