woo!
― Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 05:40 (six years ago) link
ohshitohshitohshitohshit
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 29 January 2018 06:26 (six years ago) link
hello is this thing switched on?
― faust apes (NickB), Monday, 29 January 2018 07:11 (six years ago) link
So it begins. Soon.
― octobeard, Monday, 29 January 2018 09:00 (six years ago) link
hehe yay
― nxd, Monday, 29 January 2018 09:52 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/6xdlGrc.jpg
77 AIMEE MANN "Mental Illness" (186 points, 6 votes, 1 first place vote)spoitfy
― gr8080, Monday, 29 January 2018 11:12 (six years ago) link
Didn't even know she had a new one out.
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 29 January 2018 11:16 (six years ago) link
Great little bruiser of a record.
― Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 11:43 (six years ago) link
think I quite liked what I heard
― imago, Monday, 29 January 2018 11:48 (six years ago) link
Aaw, this is lovely. It just missed my ballot so it's great to see it here! Has lots of pretty Elliott Smith inflections and is her strongest for a while imo
― Launch of new ILM school business management programmes! (tangenttangent), Monday, 29 January 2018 11:57 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/LlUOSXE.jpg76 L'RAIN "L'rain" (198 points, 7 votes)spotify
― gr8080, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:02 (six years ago) link
Aaaah TOO LOW
― imago, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:03 (six years ago) link
My #2. An absolutely incredible record
L'Rain didn't quite make my ballot but it's excellent, glad to see it show up
― ufo, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:10 (six years ago) link
whoop whoop. This'll be one that really breaks through this year instead of 2017.
― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 29 January 2018 12:12 (six years ago) link
i really look forward to hearing what she does in the future since this is such a good debut, first two tracks and Which Fork/I'll Be are the highlights
― ufo, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:18 (six years ago) link
Mental Illness sounds especially beautiful on this chilly January morning.
― Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 12:30 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/0MTVioT.jpg75 ELDER "Reflections of a Floating World" (200 points, 6 votes)spotify
― gr8080, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:32 (six years ago) link
hey one of my votes already appeared! <3 the l'rain album
― nxd, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:33 (six years ago) link
I think the whole L'Rain album follows a beautiful dream logic. It's obviously a very carefully thought-through song-cycle (maybe sound-cycle?) - progge as fuck but also spry and lean. Emotionally intense and deeply sad, yet also blithely playful. It's the best debut I've heard in ages. Not just for the psychedelic R&B fans out there. It's for all of you.
― imago, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:34 (six years ago) link
Not for everyone, obviously, but the Elder album is superlative contemporary prog-metal.
― Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 12:35 (six years ago) link
It seemed decent enough to me but I've not heard it in full yet! Maybe that'll have to be addressed
― imago, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:37 (six years ago) link
enjoying the cover. might check it out
― Badgers (dog latin), Monday, 29 January 2018 12:42 (six years ago) link
That L'Rain album would have made my Top 10 had I heard it in time, gorgeous stuff.
― Matt DC, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:44 (six years ago) link
I nearly lost my shit at the birthday voicemail.
― Matt DC, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:46 (six years ago) link
seriously.
― imago, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:47 (six years ago) link
Wow, it took tracks forever to get to the 200 point barrier, and we get there at #75 in this one.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:50 (six years ago) link
that is strange. i'd have thought it'd be the other way round
― Badgers (dog latin), Monday, 29 January 2018 12:53 (six years ago) link
That makes sense, given a similar number of ballots aimed at (what I assume must be) fewer entries than the tracks poll?
― Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 12:54 (six years ago) link
I wasn't bowled over by Elder's previous album but loved this one.
― Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:54 (six years ago) link
There were more albums than tracks nominated iirc
Think it's a combination of more albums ballots and more consensus - there was SO MUCH vote splitting in the tracks poll
― imago, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:55 (six years ago) link
108 album ballots vs. 105 tracks ballots. That's pretty even. Maybe just more albums consensus for 2017?
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:55 (six years ago) link
more consensus is natural given basically no vote splitting per artist, I would think
― Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 12:56 (six years ago) link
the albums poll has always had more consensus than the tracks poll, at least while i've been here
much less vote-splitting is the obvious reason but also just less range - there are more good tracks released than good albums
― ufo, Monday, 29 January 2018 12:58 (six years ago) link
True, true. I just got out of bed. Brain not working yet.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:03 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/8QDYjSM.jpg
74 PLAYBOI CARTI "Playboi Carti" (201 points, 7 votes)spotify
― gr8080, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:04 (six years ago) link
very low for an excellent record
― ogmor, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:05 (six years ago) link
I try not to be a dinosaur and keep up on contemporary rap but try as I might this is one of those records that just makes me feel old
― Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 13:08 (six years ago) link
Amazed that there were more LP than tracks ballots, I never feel I've heard enough LPs by the end of a year to justify voting.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 29 January 2018 13:10 (six years ago) link
I really like the track that got in the 77. Just silly enough to make me love it.
― Badgers (dog latin), Monday, 29 January 2018 13:12 (six years ago) link
Magnolia is a fucking dope tune.
― calzino, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:13 (six years ago) link
yeah this is surprisingly low. Pi'erre and Carti are great together & wokeuplikethis* especially is fantastic
― ufo, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:15 (six years ago) link
― Johnny Fever, Monday, January 29, 2018
― Badgers (dog latin), Monday, January 29, 2018
For me, I think the killer point is that it looks as if you need 6+ voters to make the 77, so bang goes my slim hopes of squeezing in a couple of records that I know have a dedicated, but tiny, fanbase here.
― Jeff W, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:27 (six years ago) link
RIP Drab Majesty :(
― ArchCarrier, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:28 (six years ago) link
they'd have stood a better chance had DJP gotten a ballot in, I'd imagine.
― Simon H., Monday, 29 January 2018 13:29 (six years ago) link
Anyway. Count me as another who came to the L'Rain record after the voting deadline. Not sure I'd have voted for it but it's in my Top 50 for 2017 easy.
― Jeff W, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:30 (six years ago) link
Sometimes you just have to go 'omgomgomg this record' on the lobbying thread if you want something to get in. Mind you L'Rain still wouldn't have if it didn't have existing fans. It's hard to hype
― imago, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:33 (six years ago) link
I never have any hopes that my picks will place, it's the list making process itself that's nice.
― Siegbran, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:34 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/JXIHAxO.jpg73 THE WEATHER STATION "The Weather Station" (202 points, 6 votes)spotify
― gr8080, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:37 (six years ago) link
Quick check of Weather Station album, sounds nice.
― abcfsk, Monday, 29 January 2018 13:40 (six years ago) link
Can anyone do me a quick breakdown of the different sub-genres of the UK grime/afrobeats/bashment/swing/drill scene? If I didn't know better, I'd have lumped J Hus in with the grime scene, or a continuation of the grime scene at least, but it seems they're counted as quite separate
― Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 2 February 2018 10:58 (six years ago) link
Grime - Wiley, Stormzy, JME, Skepta etc. You know what this sounds likeAfrobeats - catch-all term for modern pop music from Africa at this stage but especially Ghana/NigeriaUK drill - mostly what used to be called Road Rap - Giggs, Krept & Konan etcAfrobashment - the newer stuff that takes in elements of all three, much younger artists and listeners involved on the whole - J Hus is the standard bearer but also Mostack/Kojo Funds/AbraCadabra etc. Some of this stuff has gone mainstream very quickly (eg Not3s 'Addison Lee', Yungen & Yxng Bane 'Bestie') to the extent that J Hus could be said to have genuinely changed the sound of British pop already
― Matt DC, Friday, 2 February 2018 11:17 (six years ago) link
Okay, makes more sense. I've heard J Hus be described as 'Afrobeats' and broke into a sweat. Afrobashment makes more sense, but yes I've heard a bit of these guys (Mostack etc) and it's definitely a THING isn't it? Looking at Spotify playlists it looks like there's a lot of crossover with afrobeats in Nigeria and dancehall in Jamaica, with collabs with Burna Boy, Alkaline etc
― Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 2 February 2018 11:29 (six years ago) link
Yeah I mean some of those guys you mention play to like 100,000 people in Lagos and given that most of the UK artists are of African heritage they're obviously looking to get some of that exposure. Which is why I think the first international British rap superstar is likely to come from that scene rather than grime or UK rap. Someone like Hus makes a lot more sense in a market that's already used to Wizkid popping up all over the place whereas the language, slang etc of grime doesn't really translate.
― Matt DC, Friday, 2 February 2018 11:34 (six years ago) link
yeah it's exciting and maybe one of the first examples of a true pan-national genre emerging, or at least a 360 axis between US trap/UK grime/Nigerian Afrobeats/JA Dancehall all collaborating and putting their sounds into a melting pot. I'm not super taken with the UK afrobashment sound yet. I like J Hus's album but the rest is a bit samey from what I've heard. I will keep listening.
― Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 2 February 2018 11:51 (six years ago) link
maybe one of the first examples of a true pan-national genre emerging
I agree it's exciting but this is an insane statement to make.
― Matt DC, Friday, 2 February 2018 11:56 (six years ago) link
well, a new one that's forged across countries as opposed to started in one place and then adopted by others. maybe just talking out my bum
― Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 2 February 2018 12:20 (six years ago) link
the thing about all this stuff breaking now is I was going to club nights 5+ years ago that had all these elements in the mix: Afrobeats, dancehall, UKG etc and the basis of the sound was there
― slouching towards depresslehem (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 February 2018 12:33 (six years ago) link
it's gotta start somewhere and clubs is usually where it starts.
― Badgers (dog latin), Friday, 2 February 2018 12:57 (six years ago) link
this is a very good list and i am thrilled by the top 10. sad i didn't vote.
― maura, Friday, 2 February 2018 13:27 (six years ago) link
btw, I'd nominate Moka as a poll partner, but she may be way too busy.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, February 2, 2018 3:13 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Would endorse.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 2 February 2018 07:56 (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
thirded
― Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Friday, 2 February 2018 13:55 (six years ago) link
I never knew Moka was a she!
― ArchCarrier, Friday, 2 February 2018 14:02 (six years ago) link
Thanks, poll runners! I'll do my best to vote next year.
― pomenitul, Friday, 2 February 2018 14:11 (six years ago) link
Saturday night is when voting closes for The 2017 ILX Metal n' Heavy Rock Poll VOTING + CAMPAIGNING thread! Ballots due Saturday, Feb. 3rd!
please vote!
― Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Friday, 2 February 2018 16:12 (six years ago) link
Hello there! I would love to help you out whatever you need as a poll partner. My line of work is sometimes very busy but I have several months I’m practically on vacation.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 2 February 2018 18:43 (six years ago) link
― ArchCarrier
Yes! Feisty, spanish, girl iirc lol
you'd basically need to spend the 3rd or 4th week of the year preparing posts, bbcode, and images for the 77 albums, and then post them over the course of the 4th or 5th week of the year
― gr8080, Friday, 2 February 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link
I can work with that. I’m in.
In case you call on some thread and I’m not around to read it:
motelmoka (at) gmail.com
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link
i knew feisty and spanish; the onion has so many layers
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:03 (six years ago) link
lol
― (the blues version in his Broadway show) (crüt), Friday, 2 February 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link
Yay Moka! She'll be great at this.
― emil.y, Friday, 2 February 2018 20:12 (six years ago) link
Love you emily
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 2 February 2018 21:57 (six years ago) link
Ooh wow, looking forward to next year already!
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 February 2018 22:17 (six years ago) link
why wait? let's do it now.
― (the blues version in his Broadway show) (crüt), Saturday, 3 February 2018 00:03 (six years ago) link
It's probably the only way the Tracey Thorn album would win.
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 3 February 2018 00:35 (six years ago) link
octo octa album is incredible; she really has a touch for making quite maximal tracks smooth as ice
― kolakube (Ross), Saturday, 3 February 2018 04:25 (six years ago) link
― groovypanda, Saturday, 3 February 2018 06:31 (six years ago) link
NV:
I think I don't listen voraciously to enough new albums to be a viable music-poll voter.
This is p much exactly how I feel, but I talked myself into submitting a 13-album ballot shortly before the deadline, and am glad I did.
I think it's pretty crucial that partial and unranked ballots are allowed. I decided I was comfortable with submitting a ballot that in effect says "here are a few albums from 2017 I enjoyed"; a ranked ballot would feel uncomfortably like stating "this is the actual very best album of 2017".
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 3 February 2018 10:22 (six years ago) link
(nb that is just how it would feel to me, I don't look at the ranked ballots of others as necessarily making grandiose claims or anything)
― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 3 February 2018 10:24 (six years ago) link
Yeah I'm the same really. I tend to parasitically use the yearly polls to get recommendations of music to check out. I listened to the tracks Spotify playlist and there was quite a bit of stuff I wasn't aware of that I liked (e.g. I didn't even know Charlotte Gainsbourg was a musician) and downloaded some albums that looked intrsting from the albums poll.
― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 3 February 2018 11:27 (six years ago) link
a friend of mine recently said he never heard anything from Stormzy that came close to the Shut Up freestyle, I was about to tell him he was wrong but then I couldn't really come up with as great a song from his catalogue
wonder if he'll ever top it
― niels, Saturday, 3 February 2018 18:42 (six years ago) link
bummed i didn't vote for BALSAMS by Chuck Johnson.
― omar little, Monday, 5 February 2018 01:56 (six years ago) link
what's the gif (by gr80?) that every was applauding?
― flopson, Monday, 5 February 2018 02:34 (six years ago) link
the image for the reveal of #1 and #2. If it's not working, right click the image and open it in a new tab (that's how i saw it)
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 5 February 2018 02:36 (six years ago) link
bummed i didn't vote for BALSAMS by Chuck Johnson.― omar little, Sunday, February 4, 2018 7:56 PM (yesterday)
― omar little, Sunday, February 4, 2018 7:56 PM (yesterday)
my number one!
― gr8080, Monday, 5 February 2018 19:38 (six years ago) link
what's the gif (by gr80?) that every was applauding?― flopson, Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:34 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flopson, Sunday, February 4, 2018 8:34 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
click this
― gr8080, Monday, 5 February 2018 19:39 (six years ago) link
xp my number 6!
works like a balm...
― niels, Monday, 5 February 2018 21:00 (six years ago) link
i probably read three whole books just to that album alone in 2017
― gr8080, Monday, 5 February 2018 21:07 (six years ago) link
fantastic stuff, I had no idea. glad you singled it out just now, right up my street.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 5 February 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link
xps- woahhh
― flopson, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 00:11 (six years ago) link