just got tix <3
― fgti spinner (Spottie), Friday, 2 February 2018 16:46 (six years ago) link
wish we could somehow attend the same show spottie
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 2 February 2018 16:47 (six years ago) link
aw me too!
― fgti spinner (Spottie), Friday, 2 February 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link
somehow i never managed to see them in their prime, only ever saw them once and that was round the time of the sister brother single so yikes, 1990? still really good though
― faust apes (NickB), Friday, 2 February 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link
This is the best album, hard to beat the opening riff of My Enemy but I voted for Blame in the end.
― Matt DC, Friday, 2 February 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link
Best part of this album is Rick McCollum's guitar, most notably his slide work.
For an album that is all about mood his presence is absolutely crucial
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 2 February 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link
yeah there's no obvious standout to me, and it's kind of hard to think about the tracks in isolation, they're all a single darkly scorched thing
but also those last two minutes of "bulletproof"
― sophistipop 2 (stritram), Wednesday, January 31, 2018 7:21 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah for real. This record was definitely my soundtrack during Bad Times/Bad Choices and it fucking rules. UMS & I saw the Whigs on this tour, they were so fucking great.
Dulli: "We played this song at the Uptown Bar"*someone in the crowd cheers*Dulli: "Fuck you. Unless your name is Lori Barbero you weren't there"
Someone called out for "My Curse" and he said "baby not tonight, I can't do it tonight, you wouldn't me to fake it would you?".
Encored with "If I Only Had A Heart" and I think we all wanted to fuck him.
And haha unrelated but The night after the Red Wings lost the '95 Stanley Cup, the Whigs played Detroit and Dulli's first words were "How 'bout them Devils?!" A beer ricocheted off his chest and he laughed it off.
― Andy K, Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:05 PM (eight years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I once needled a crowd of Wisconsin townies that had stumbled into a show I was playing after a Packers playoff loss and the other band on the bill, some dudes who were very "confrontational" were scared we would get jumped in the parking lot. Haha.
― chr1sb3singer, Friday, 2 February 2018 20:18 (six years ago) link
i lived in minneapolis when this came out but was about to move to dc; the tour schedule was such that i managed to miss them in both places and didn't see them for another year or two
leaving the cities involved renting a truck, filling it with everything i owned, hitching my car to its back, and driving 16 hours straight to pittsburgh, during which i listened to this album ~several~ times on a boombox on the passenger seat while hoping my car hadn't fallen off
sometimes i miss having a car now just so i could drive at night with this on
― mookieproof, Friday, 2 February 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link
here we go
― mookieproof, Saturday, 3 February 2018 02:50 (six years ago) link
get your ass up on the mountain, baby
― mookieproof, Saturday, 3 February 2018 03:06 (six years ago) link
I don't believe I'm ever gonna die
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 3 February 2018 15:35 (six years ago) link
i just listened to a little bit of "bulletproof" and it made my arm hairs stand upit has the most ecstatic vibe -- when he howls LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-OOOOOOOOOOO-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE the piano and drums and howling, it's the most potent combination of elementsi have spent a lot of time crying my eyes out and howling along with this song over the last 20 years
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 3 February 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link
btw, while we've got all these Whigs fans in one place: I still haven't heard 2014's Do to the Beast. Is there anyone willing to make the case for why I should?
― bernard snowy, Monday, 5 February 2018 15:48 (six years ago) link
because it's good? In Spades is superior, though.
― Simon H., Monday, 5 February 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link
Do to the Beast sounds more like a Twilight Singers album than an Afghan Whigs one but has two real highlights in Lost in the Woods and The Lottery which are as good as anything Dulli's done
In Spades is definitely better yeah
― ufo, Monday, 5 February 2018 15:58 (six years ago) link
They're both good though not really on par with the band at its prime. (And how could they be?) Still, each has enough killer tracks to make them worth your while.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2018 16:13 (six years ago) link
I actually think In Spades is their third-best behind BL and Gentlemen
― Simon H., Monday, 5 February 2018 16:15 (six years ago) link
do to the beast has kind of a digressive second side but the first side is all classics imo
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 February 2018 16:16 (six years ago) link
i think in spades gets really close to the narrative quality of whigs records like black love and gentlemen (or really probably more like the twilight singers' blackberry belle). i love so much of that record
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 February 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link
Saw them in the mid 90s at the Town and Country. Dulli was aggro all night and eventually took a swing at someone in the crowd with his mic stand. He waded into the crowd shortly afterwards. Didn't drop a note. What a fucking show.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 5 February 2018 18:30 (six years ago) link
And Crime Scene for me. Faded is a close second.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 5 February 2018 18:31 (six years ago) link
God, the guitars on this album. Summer's Kiss makes me want to crash my car. For no particular reason, other than the guitars I guess, I totally twin this with a Dust by the Screaming Trees.
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 5 February 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link
Up in It and Congregation have become relatively undervalued over the years I think
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 February 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link
It's weird, I would crawl over broken glass to defend this record but I don't really love any other Whigs records (except "Gentlemen" and even that is tempered compared to this one).
God "Summer's Kiss" is so awesome...I don't know if I can pick a favorite
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 5 February 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link
1965 forever undervalued ;_; (i think it's only sliiiightly less good than this record)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 February 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link
I think Howlin' Maggie even opened the show we saw. Man the 90s were fucking great!
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 5 February 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link
Inspired to play In Spades, yeah, it's pretty good.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 February 2018 19:23 (six years ago) link
I mean, I knew it was good, but I hadn't played it in a while. The Afghan Whigs are one of those bands that once I start listening I have trouble stopping. I have to be careful.
1965 is my favorite, it would sound like its cover if floating in space was unceasingly warm (and hot). also dulli singing "least that's what nas says" is the best thing ever ofc
― lowercase (eric), Monday, 5 February 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link
as good as the guitar tones are on this record they are even richer on 1965. eric otm
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 February 2018 19:44 (six years ago) link
cf. end of "crazy"
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 February 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link
going through the same experience as when it came out, really want to like 1965 but there's something that keeps me at arms length
one the drumming (drum machine?) is that really "90s loop" feel, like Primitive Radio Gods I been downhearted babe since the day we met/Eels/Beck type vibe
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 February 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link
i can't think of a moment on 1965 that isn't live drums. "66"? the '90s loop feel is way stronger on twilight
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 February 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link
"crazy"'s got those super dilated prim radio gods drums i guess but the song is so beautiful
essentially i think the record has dulli's best pop songs
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 February 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link
okay yeah i couldn't tell sometimes if he was drumming or it was a loop, like on crazy they are kinda squashed and give it a machine feel
at least part of it is i like black love way out of any common sense and i don't know if anything would have been good enough for me, but certain records are funny like that
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 February 2018 21:44 (six years ago) link
even though I only like half of 1965 I do always appreciate it when bands recognize they've gone as "big" as they can and no longer attempt to one-up themselves in terms of scale, instead choosing new angles to refine
― Simon H., Monday, 5 February 2018 21:47 (six years ago) link
it isn't even possible to go bigger than 'faded' so yeah
― mookieproof, Monday, 5 February 2018 21:51 (six years ago) link
― Simon H., Monday, February 5, 2018 3:47 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah enough people seem to really like 1965 that i'm willing to think it's not the record it's me
i prefer In Spades tbh
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 February 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link
1965 is great and sometimes I think 66 is their very best song (there's a drum machine + live drums on it but that's the only place on the album I think)
― ufo, Monday, 5 February 2018 22:28 (six years ago) link
i am not a huge fan of 1965i basically only like the first three songs and even then, there is some seriously cheesy stuff in therethe "who's hot, who's not" bit was embarrassing imowhile enjoyable, it almost feels like self-parody, a parade of whigs-themed sex content (the giving/taking of rides, lover's lane, "little rabbit")
however, a friend of mine covered "somethin' hot" with her band and it made me literally giddy to hear a woman singing a whigs song (that isn't "my curse")
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 5 February 2018 22:41 (six years ago) link
oh man I would LOVE to hear an all-female Dulli tribute comp
― Simon H., Monday, 5 February 2018 22:42 (six years ago) link
i'll work on that
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 5 February 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link
dulli's tropes expanding into self-parody is part of what i like about that album—it's the funniest whigs record
i also feel like everyone should love "omerta" but i won't push it lol
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 February 2018 23:34 (six years ago) link
it's also kind of an inverse of the darkness and sadness on twilight
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 5 February 2018 23:39 (six years ago) link
Omerta into The Vampire Lanois is a pretty great closer
― ufo, Monday, 5 February 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link
I have them edited as a single track on my phone lol
― Simon H., Monday, 5 February 2018 23:47 (six years ago) link
Man, 1965 is great, too. Not as heavy, super songs.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 00:11 (six years ago) link
Can I vote for the final three sons??? Shit, I'm prob gonna have to flip a coin between Faded and Summer's Kiss
― hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 13:53 (six years ago) link
*songs
... i think i'm gonna vote "bulletproof" and regret it immediately
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 03:04 (six years ago) link